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Is there a firm like this in every city?

Crimlaw firm full of people with biglaw creds? http://www...
motley mad cow disease depressive
  08/27/14
their cases are pretty high-end. so if you are asking if the...
Green codepig national
  08/27/14
Do you know one in LA?
Odious dilemma
  08/27/14
Caldwell Leslie Bird Marella
motley mad cow disease depressive
  08/27/14
What do firms like that pay mid-level associates (5 - 6 yrs)...
Odious dilemma
  08/27/14
400k plus bonus
Mentally impaired internal respiration
  08/27/14
Damn, that's better than BIGFED. How much is the bonus? $4...
Odious dilemma
  08/27/14
probably 30-50k less than market.
motley mad cow disease depressive
  08/27/14
Thanks
Odious dilemma
  08/27/14
fewer hours than biglaw, probably get some interesting exper...
motley mad cow disease depressive
  08/27/14
Yeah, its not bad at all. Even though being an AUSA is idea...
Odious dilemma
  08/27/14
Sorry, I wasn't clear. Boutique white collar firms are fill...
motley mad cow disease depressive
  08/28/14
why is ausa so highly coveted. is it the end game or do thes...
Mentally impaired internal respiration
  08/28/14
firms don't give associates legit experience anymore, so you...
cream self-absorbed juggernaut
  08/28/14
who cares about experience? you became a lawyer for the mone...
Mentally impaired internal respiration
  08/28/14
need to be a partner for $$ need experience to be a partn...
cream self-absorbed juggernaut
  08/28/14
misanthropic lawyers argue that 200k isn't money why?
Mentally impaired internal respiration
  08/28/14
for most people in competitive districts like SDNY or CDCal,...
motley mad cow disease depressive
  08/28/14
so you get more money when you lateral back?
Mentally impaired internal respiration
  08/28/14
no guarantees, but materially better chance of partner than ...
motley mad cow disease depressive
  08/28/14
Does experience as a federal defender carry the same weight ...
Tan persian
  08/28/14
there isn't the same revolving door between fed defender and...
motley mad cow disease depressive
  08/28/14
That's a very good firm that does very high end work. Their...
navy goal in life
  08/28/14
Trying to imagine a firm with a less attractive collective
Adventurous sinister rehab laser beams
  08/28/14
how has this firm not hired diesel yet?
Ruby flirting trailer park kitty
  08/28/14
How about as a retired cop? You think they can do well/make ...
cocky business firm incel
  08/28/14


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Date: August 27th, 2014 3:15 PM
Author: motley mad cow disease depressive

Crimlaw firm full of people with biglaw creds?

http://www.achlaw.com/index.php

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2658399&forum_id=2#26218521)



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Date: August 27th, 2014 3:38 PM
Author: Green codepig national

their cases are pretty high-end. so if you are asking if there are lit boutiques in every major city that focus on criminal work, then, well, the answer is yes.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2658399&forum_id=2#26218650)



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Date: August 27th, 2014 5:58 PM
Author: Odious dilemma

Do you know one in LA?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2658399&forum_id=2#26219503)



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Date: August 27th, 2014 6:01 PM
Author: motley mad cow disease depressive

Caldwell Leslie

Bird Marella



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2658399&forum_id=2#26219521)



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Date: August 27th, 2014 11:45 PM
Author: Odious dilemma

What do firms like that pay mid-level associates (5 - 6 yrs)?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2658399&forum_id=2#26221759)



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Date: August 27th, 2014 11:49 PM
Author: Mentally impaired internal respiration

400k plus bonus

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2658399&forum_id=2#26221803)



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Date: August 27th, 2014 11:50 PM
Author: Odious dilemma

Damn, that's better than BIGFED. How much is the bonus? $400k only goes so far.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2658399&forum_id=2#26221818)



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Date: August 27th, 2014 11:50 PM
Author: motley mad cow disease depressive

probably 30-50k less than market.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2658399&forum_id=2#26221811)



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Date: August 27th, 2014 11:50 PM
Author: Odious dilemma

Thanks

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2658399&forum_id=2#26221821)



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Date: August 27th, 2014 11:52 PM
Author: motley mad cow disease depressive

fewer hours than biglaw, probably get some interesting experience. but if you don't make it to USAO, what can you do next? Can't make WCC your practice anymore without federal gov experience.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2658399&forum_id=2#26221841)



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Date: August 27th, 2014 11:56 PM
Author: Odious dilemma

Yeah, its not bad at all. Even though being an AUSA is ideal for white collar criminal defense, you have to take a big pay cut from BIGLAW, if you are lucky to become an AUSA ($110k?). Boutique white collar criminal defense seems ideal.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2658399&forum_id=2#26221886)



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Date: August 28th, 2014 12:02 AM
Author: motley mad cow disease depressive

Sorry, I wasn't clear. Boutique white collar firms are filled with associates that want to become AUSAs. If they miss out - which many do, even with their stellar credentials - they don't have very many options. A boutique won't make you a partner without fed gov experience anymore either.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2658399&forum_id=2#26221955)



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Date: August 28th, 2014 12:09 AM
Author: Mentally impaired internal respiration

why is ausa so highly coveted. is it the end game or do these people want ot go into politics?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2658399&forum_id=2#26222022)



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Date: August 28th, 2014 12:11 AM
Author: cream self-absorbed juggernaut

firms don't give associates legit experience anymore, so you have to go to gov. to get it

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2658399&forum_id=2#26222038)



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Date: August 28th, 2014 12:15 AM
Author: Mentally impaired internal respiration

who cares about experience? you became a lawyer for the money

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2658399&forum_id=2#26222063)



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Date: August 28th, 2014 12:16 AM
Author: cream self-absorbed juggernaut

need to be a partner for $$

need experience to be a partner

firms don't give experience

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2658399&forum_id=2#26222069)



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Date: August 28th, 2014 9:45 AM
Author: Mentally impaired internal respiration

misanthropic lawyers argue that 200k isn't money why?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2658399&forum_id=2#26223311)



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Date: August 28th, 2014 12:11 AM
Author: motley mad cow disease depressive

for most people in competitive districts like SDNY or CDCal, it's a credential - kind of like a clerkship. They do their stint and lateral back to private practice.

For others, esp in flyover, it's an end game. A job where you make decent money (maybe top out around 150), is prestigious, and have a fair amount of autonomy.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2658399&forum_id=2#26222046)



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Date: August 28th, 2014 12:15 AM
Author: Mentally impaired internal respiration

so you get more money when you lateral back?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2658399&forum_id=2#26222060)



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Date: August 28th, 2014 9:11 AM
Author: motley mad cow disease depressive

no guarantees, but materially better chance of partner than if you stayed put.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2658399&forum_id=2#26223206)



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Date: August 28th, 2014 9:38 AM
Author: Tan persian

Does experience as a federal defender carry the same weight as AUSA? From what I've heard they get tons of trial experience.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2658399&forum_id=2#26223288)



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Date: August 28th, 2014 9:41 AM
Author: motley mad cow disease depressive

there isn't the same revolving door between fed defender and private practice that there is for big-city USAOs. Whether this is because federal defenders are more likely to be true believers, or because the experience is not valued as highly, i do not know.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2658399&forum_id=2#26223298)



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Date: August 28th, 2014 12:19 AM
Author: navy goal in life

That's a very good firm that does very high end work. Their clients pay through the nose.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2658399&forum_id=2#26222080)



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Date: August 28th, 2014 2:20 AM
Author: Adventurous sinister rehab laser beams

Trying to imagine a firm with a less attractive collective

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2658399&forum_id=2#26222524)



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Date: August 28th, 2014 2:37 AM
Author: Ruby flirting trailer park kitty

how has this firm not hired diesel yet?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2658399&forum_id=2#26222562)



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Date: August 28th, 2014 3:41 PM
Author: cocky business firm incel

How about as a retired cop? You think they can do well/make partner in firms like these without AUSA work? I know a few evening school doods who were cops

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2658399&forum_id=2#26225241)