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Is there a firm like this in every city?

Crimlaw firm full of people with biglaw creds? http://www...
Mildly Autistic Exhilarant Home Elastic Band
  08/27/14
their cases are pretty high-end. so if you are asking if the...
Rose vibrant orchestra pit pisswyrm
  08/27/14
Do you know one in LA?
Mint razzle immigrant
  08/27/14
Caldwell Leslie Bird Marella
Mildly Autistic Exhilarant Home Elastic Band
  08/27/14
What do firms like that pay mid-level associates (5 - 6 yrs)...
Mint razzle immigrant
  08/27/14
400k plus bonus
domesticated wild rigpig main people
  08/27/14
Damn, that's better than BIGFED. How much is the bonus? $4...
Mint razzle immigrant
  08/27/14
probably 30-50k less than market.
Mildly Autistic Exhilarant Home Elastic Band
  08/27/14
Thanks
Mint razzle immigrant
  08/27/14
fewer hours than biglaw, probably get some interesting exper...
Mildly Autistic Exhilarant Home Elastic Band
  08/27/14
Yeah, its not bad at all. Even though being an AUSA is idea...
Mint razzle immigrant
  08/27/14
Sorry, I wasn't clear. Boutique white collar firms are fill...
Mildly Autistic Exhilarant Home Elastic Band
  08/28/14
why is ausa so highly coveted. is it the end game or do thes...
domesticated wild rigpig main people
  08/28/14
firms don't give associates legit experience anymore, so you...
trip azure pit blood rage
  08/28/14
who cares about experience? you became a lawyer for the mone...
domesticated wild rigpig main people
  08/28/14
need to be a partner for $$ need experience to be a partn...
trip azure pit blood rage
  08/28/14
misanthropic lawyers argue that 200k isn't money why?
domesticated wild rigpig main people
  08/28/14
for most people in competitive districts like SDNY or CDCal,...
Mildly Autistic Exhilarant Home Elastic Band
  08/28/14
so you get more money when you lateral back?
domesticated wild rigpig main people
  08/28/14
no guarantees, but materially better chance of partner than ...
Mildly Autistic Exhilarant Home Elastic Band
  08/28/14
Does experience as a federal defender carry the same weight ...
Peach address hominid
  08/28/14
there isn't the same revolving door between fed defender and...
Mildly Autistic Exhilarant Home Elastic Band
  08/28/14
That's a very good firm that does very high end work. Their...
House-broken shrine faggot firefighter
  08/28/14
Trying to imagine a firm with a less attractive collective
Light Idea He Suggested Legend
  08/28/14
how has this firm not hired diesel yet?
Twinkling Office
  08/28/14
How about as a retired cop? You think they can do well/make ...
cruel-hearted cerise church foreskin
  08/28/14


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Date: August 27th, 2014 3:15 PM
Author: Mildly Autistic Exhilarant Home Elastic Band

Crimlaw firm full of people with biglaw creds?

http://www.achlaw.com/index.php

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2658399&forum_id=2#26218521)



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Date: August 27th, 2014 3:38 PM
Author: Rose vibrant orchestra pit pisswyrm

their cases are pretty high-end. so if you are asking if there are lit boutiques in every major city that focus on criminal work, then, well, the answer is yes.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2658399&forum_id=2#26218650)



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Date: August 27th, 2014 5:58 PM
Author: Mint razzle immigrant

Do you know one in LA?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2658399&forum_id=2#26219503)



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Date: August 27th, 2014 6:01 PM
Author: Mildly Autistic Exhilarant Home Elastic Band

Caldwell Leslie

Bird Marella



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2658399&forum_id=2#26219521)



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Date: August 27th, 2014 11:45 PM
Author: Mint razzle immigrant

What do firms like that pay mid-level associates (5 - 6 yrs)?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2658399&forum_id=2#26221759)



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Date: August 27th, 2014 11:49 PM
Author: domesticated wild rigpig main people

400k plus bonus

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2658399&forum_id=2#26221803)



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Date: August 27th, 2014 11:50 PM
Author: Mint razzle immigrant

Damn, that's better than BIGFED. How much is the bonus? $400k only goes so far.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2658399&forum_id=2#26221818)



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Date: August 27th, 2014 11:50 PM
Author: Mildly Autistic Exhilarant Home Elastic Band

probably 30-50k less than market.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2658399&forum_id=2#26221811)



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Date: August 27th, 2014 11:50 PM
Author: Mint razzle immigrant

Thanks

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2658399&forum_id=2#26221821)



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Date: August 27th, 2014 11:52 PM
Author: Mildly Autistic Exhilarant Home Elastic Band

fewer hours than biglaw, probably get some interesting experience. but if you don't make it to USAO, what can you do next? Can't make WCC your practice anymore without federal gov experience.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2658399&forum_id=2#26221841)



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Date: August 27th, 2014 11:56 PM
Author: Mint razzle immigrant

Yeah, its not bad at all. Even though being an AUSA is ideal for white collar criminal defense, you have to take a big pay cut from BIGLAW, if you are lucky to become an AUSA ($110k?). Boutique white collar criminal defense seems ideal.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2658399&forum_id=2#26221886)



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Date: August 28th, 2014 12:02 AM
Author: Mildly Autistic Exhilarant Home Elastic Band

Sorry, I wasn't clear. Boutique white collar firms are filled with associates that want to become AUSAs. If they miss out - which many do, even with their stellar credentials - they don't have very many options. A boutique won't make you a partner without fed gov experience anymore either.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2658399&forum_id=2#26221955)



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Date: August 28th, 2014 12:09 AM
Author: domesticated wild rigpig main people

why is ausa so highly coveted. is it the end game or do these people want ot go into politics?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2658399&forum_id=2#26222022)



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Date: August 28th, 2014 12:11 AM
Author: trip azure pit blood rage

firms don't give associates legit experience anymore, so you have to go to gov. to get it

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2658399&forum_id=2#26222038)



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Date: August 28th, 2014 12:15 AM
Author: domesticated wild rigpig main people

who cares about experience? you became a lawyer for the money

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2658399&forum_id=2#26222063)



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Date: August 28th, 2014 12:16 AM
Author: trip azure pit blood rage

need to be a partner for $$

need experience to be a partner

firms don't give experience

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2658399&forum_id=2#26222069)



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Date: August 28th, 2014 9:45 AM
Author: domesticated wild rigpig main people

misanthropic lawyers argue that 200k isn't money why?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2658399&forum_id=2#26223311)



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Date: August 28th, 2014 12:11 AM
Author: Mildly Autistic Exhilarant Home Elastic Band

for most people in competitive districts like SDNY or CDCal, it's a credential - kind of like a clerkship. They do their stint and lateral back to private practice.

For others, esp in flyover, it's an end game. A job where you make decent money (maybe top out around 150), is prestigious, and have a fair amount of autonomy.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2658399&forum_id=2#26222046)



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Date: August 28th, 2014 12:15 AM
Author: domesticated wild rigpig main people

so you get more money when you lateral back?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2658399&forum_id=2#26222060)



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Date: August 28th, 2014 9:11 AM
Author: Mildly Autistic Exhilarant Home Elastic Band

no guarantees, but materially better chance of partner than if you stayed put.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2658399&forum_id=2#26223206)



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Date: August 28th, 2014 9:38 AM
Author: Peach address hominid

Does experience as a federal defender carry the same weight as AUSA? From what I've heard they get tons of trial experience.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2658399&forum_id=2#26223288)



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Date: August 28th, 2014 9:41 AM
Author: Mildly Autistic Exhilarant Home Elastic Band

there isn't the same revolving door between fed defender and private practice that there is for big-city USAOs. Whether this is because federal defenders are more likely to be true believers, or because the experience is not valued as highly, i do not know.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2658399&forum_id=2#26223298)



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Date: August 28th, 2014 12:19 AM
Author: House-broken shrine faggot firefighter

That's a very good firm that does very high end work. Their clients pay through the nose.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2658399&forum_id=2#26222080)



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Date: August 28th, 2014 2:20 AM
Author: Light Idea He Suggested Legend

Trying to imagine a firm with a less attractive collective

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2658399&forum_id=2#26222524)



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Date: August 28th, 2014 2:37 AM
Author: Twinkling Office

how has this firm not hired diesel yet?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2658399&forum_id=2#26222562)



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Date: August 28th, 2014 3:41 PM
Author: cruel-hearted cerise church foreskin

How about as a retired cop? You think they can do well/make partner in firms like these without AUSA work? I know a few evening school doods who were cops

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2658399&forum_id=2#26225241)