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Mckayla Maroney's nude pics were real & were taken when underage

http://www.vox.com/2014/9/4/6101119/celebrity-photo-hack-chi...
Shivering Scarlet Pozpig Pit
  09/05/14
this might prompt us to consider the absurdity of a law that...
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  09/05/14
in obama's america, you are ALWAYS. GUILTY. OF SOMETHING. an...
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  09/05/14
Unless you a good keeid and din do nuffin.
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  09/06/14
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  09/06/14
McKayla needs to GET 2 JAIL for being a cp producer
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  09/05/14
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  09/05/14
"Your Honor, the defense moves to introduce Exhibits 1A...
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  09/05/14
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  09/05/14
This. She is a MONSTER
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  09/06/14
i felt like a pedo even looking at her clothed pics. someone...
overrated forum generalized bond
  09/05/14
did any more pics get released besides the initial 3?
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  09/05/14
(asking for a friend)
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My friend wants to know if only "one of the three are p...
Bright Boiling Water
  09/05/14
you're admitting to a felony bro
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  09/05/14
(0L)
frisky lay
  09/05/14
...
Mind-boggling parlour
  09/05/14
Has Low_IQ_Shtick gone pumo?
sinister center ladyboy
  09/05/14
(3L doobs)
Erotic Boyish Hissy Fit
  09/05/14
(doobs in 5 years)
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  09/05/14
(C.J. Doobs, writing for the majority, finally vindicated af...
jet-lagged underhanded chapel
  09/05/14
(Prof. Doobs)
Glittery half-breed school cafeteria
  09/10/14
hypothetically speaking, there may have been a shower photo ...
Dashing Buff Deer Antler
  09/05/14
...
Stimulating cruise ship clown
  09/06/14
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s9OhzVEC9I0
frisky lay
  09/05/14
S dude.
sinister center ladyboy
  09/05/14
Defendant's Exhibit 1
Passionate mental disorder
  09/05/14
explain to me how this a turn on for non pedos?
diverse business firm
  09/05/14
seriously think this has less to do with guys wanting to ban...
flesh ticket booth tank
  09/05/14
so in every mckayla thread when jonnyBlaze says "unzip&...
diverse business firm
  09/05/14
I think of it more as unzipping my excitement for life and c...
pearly property private investor
  09/05/14
no man. i think its like this: she satisfies a sort of...
flesh ticket booth tank
  09/05/14
he's unzipping his DNA to prepare for replication inside her...
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  09/05/14
never forget http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OMO3zsQrTF8
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  09/05/14
Anyone else suspicious of this claim? "No, no, the...
domesticated legal warrant
  09/05/14
I guarantee she recants her statement about them being under...
sinister center ladyboy
  09/05/14
Yep.
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  09/05/14
some were clearly fake. her twitter status was generic enoug...
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  09/05/14
i genuinely think the first (and only widely-distributed) to...
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Date: September 5th, 2014 2:57 AM
Author: Shivering Scarlet Pozpig Pit

http://www.vox.com/2014/9/4/6101119/celebrity-photo-hack-child-pornography

Olympic gymnast McKayla Maroney, one of a number of female celebrities whose private nude photos were posted online without their consent, has now taken legal action against several of the websites that posted her images. Maroney says she was under 18 at the time the photos were taken, which has some wondering whether the images constitute child pornography. (For the purposes of pornography laws, anyone under 18 years of age is considered a "child.")

Child pornography, as defined by the US Department of Justice, is "any visual depiction of sexually explicit conduct involving a minor." Under federal law, it is illegal to produce, distribute, import, receive, or possess child pornography. And notably, "the legal definition of sexually explicit conduct does not require that an image depict a child engaging in sexual activity," according to the Citizen's Guide to US Federal Law on Child Pornography.

TMZ reported that one of Maroney's attorneys sent a letter to Porn.com, a site that reposted Maroney's naked photos, informing the site's administrators that the gymnast was in fact underage at the time the photos were taken. The images were taken down. Another of her attorneys, writes TMZ, sent letters to several other websites claiming "Maroney owns the copyright on the hacked photos." (Maroney originally denied the pictures were hers on Twitter, but her attorneys' involvement suggests the photos show the gymnast, as NY Daily News points out.)

While sharing anyone's nude photographs against their will is both a violation of law and a breach of ethical responsibility, the revelation of Maroney's age certainly complicates this issue in several ways. And as the Daily Dot pointed out, many Reddit administrators and users have been hurriedly trying to wipe any and all traces of Maroney's photos from their website — which certainly seems like it's an acknowledgement of wrongdoing. For example, the administrators specifically used the phrase "child pornography" on the Reddit thread.

Here are a few questions raised by Maroney's stolen pictures:

1) Do the pictures of Maroney constitute child pornography?

A naked picture of a child does not always constitute child pornography, according to Nancy Gertner, a retired federal judge and current faculty member at Harvard Law School. "It depends on the pose, whether it's lewd or lascivious," she said over the phone. If the pose is lewd or if it can be construed to be lewd, Gertner said, "then those who are downloading it are downloading child pornography." Gertner also noted that different states have different requirements when it comes to deciding whether an image of a minor is pornographic.

2) If it turns out Maroney's images are deemed lascivious, does that mean that everyone who looks at them commits a crime?

This is where things get murky. Legal scholars and policy makers talk about three different aspects of child pornography, according to Mary G. Leary, a law professor at Catholic University's Columbus School of Law: 1) possession, 2) production, and 3) distribution. The producer of Maroney's image could be the person — whether Maroney or someone else — who snapped the photo.

Those possibly involved with distributing the photographs are those who make the image available and the websites that host them. But when it comes to possession, as Leary said, "generally speaking, 'possession' is not limited to physically holding a hard copy of an image in one's hands." It can include exercising control and dominion over an image such searching for an image uploading it and controlling it. In other words, in general, some people who viewed Maroney's nude images on line may have actually possessed the images.

However, Leary noted that possession is not enough for a child pornography charge. "In most jurisdictions, there has to be a knowing possession, the mens rea — the mental state necessary for a crime."

What this means is, since Maroney's attorney did not confirm the nature of the image for at least 24 hours, it could be argued that many who viewed it most likely were not aware they were looking at child pornography. (The same thing might even be argued by the parties who uploaded the images in the first place.) If, for some reason, those people were ever brought to court, they could assert their actions were not "knowing." says Leary.

One way the mens rea can be established is by determining the search terms a suspect used to obtain the images. If these terms suggest that the possessor was seeking out an image of a child engaged in sexually explicit conduct, and the image meets that definition, that could suggest the possessor had the requisite mens rea.

Gertner also pointed out that the recent announcement by Maroney's attorneys "puts downloaders on notice." From this point forward, it might be more difficult for those viewing Maroney's images to argue that they had no idea they were looking at naked images of a minor.

3) If Maroney took the images herself, is she guilty of production?

The circulation of these images is not Maroney's fault. But the revelation that her nude images were taken while she was still a minor does slightly complicate the matter. That's because, when it comes to child pornography, it is possible that a minor could self-produce her own pornographic images.

"The language of [child pornography] statutes are sufficiently broad," Gertner said, "that the fact that you've generated it yourself does not matter."

As Leary explains it, several years ago, prosecutors began to realize that some of the images teenagers were "sexting" of themselves actually fit the description of child pornography; that is, the texted pictures presented minors, either by themselves or with other persons, engaged in sexually explicit conduct. So the prosecutors were in a jam: they wanted to protect the definition of child pornography, but they also didn't want to prosecute children for taking naked pictures of themselves. As a result, several states tried to come up with their own solutions to this conundrum, establishing various protocol for prosecutors confronted with self-produced child pornography. (Leary discusses this at length in this scholarly article.)

It is "extremely unlikely" that Maroney would get in trouble, Gertner said. Leary agreed: "Very rarely are these self-produced images being charged when they were made in consensual settings."

4) But will the hackers be prosecuted on child pornography charges?

It's not terribly likely, though not impossible. Essentially, the prosecution would have to prove the photo hackers possessed the mens rea described above.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2666019&forum_id=2#26270969)



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Date: September 5th, 2014 3:08 AM
Author: Salmon keepsake machete azn

this might prompt us to consider the absurdity of a law that finds 100 million people guilty of violating a 'community standard'.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2666019&forum_id=2#26271014)



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Date: September 5th, 2014 2:02 PM
Author: Mahogany provocative bawdyhouse

in obama's america, you are ALWAYS. GUILTY. OF SOMETHING. and its just a matter of time before the system decides to get you. same shit as happens in the ghetto, where EVERYONE has an outstanding warrant and debts for parking tickets, and teh cops can haul you in on it any time. ITS ALL PART OF THE SYSTEM

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2666019&forum_id=2#26272660)



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Date: September 5th, 2014 4:53 PM
Author: aphrodisiac rose orchestra pit

Unless you a good keeid and din do nuffin.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2666019&forum_id=2#26273502)



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Date: September 6th, 2014 12:59 AM
Author: bespoke range



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2666019&forum_id=2#26275488)



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Date: September 6th, 2014 2:29 AM
Author: appetizing people who are hurt codepig

I say parking tickets?! you're crazy! I don't

He says well, they have some outstanding warrants left on you,

And they want to just solve them you know, whatever it'll be.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2666019&forum_id=2#26275957)



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Date: September 5th, 2014 2:06 PM
Author: laughsome casino water buffalo

McKayla needs to GET 2 JAIL for being a cp producer

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2666019&forum_id=2#26272691)



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Date: September 5th, 2014 2:08 PM
Author: sinister center ladyboy

It will be a lulzy trial for the defense if they start prosecuting the up loaders.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2666019&forum_id=2#26272701)



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Date: September 5th, 2014 2:11 PM
Author: laughsome casino water buffalo

"Your Honor, the defense moves to introduce Exhibits 1A through 1ZZ, photographs of Maroney posted to her Instagram account. She knows exactly what she is doing."

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2666019&forum_id=2#26272714)



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Date: September 5th, 2014 2:15 PM
Author: sinister center ladyboy

"The burden of proof that those are actually Maroney's breasts lies squarely on the state. Unless they, with photographic evidence (preferably from multiple angles), prove beyond any doubt that those photographs are authentic, this case has no ground to stand on."

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2666019&forum_id=2#26272743)



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Date: September 6th, 2014 9:57 AM
Author: Adulterous territorial patrolman

This. She is a MONSTER

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2666019&forum_id=2#26276493)



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Date: September 5th, 2014 2:13 PM
Author: overrated forum generalized bond

i felt like a pedo even looking at her clothed pics. someone needs to take her phone away

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2666019&forum_id=2#26272725)



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Date: September 5th, 2014 2:18 PM
Author: frisky lay

did any more pics get released besides the initial 3?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2666019&forum_id=2#26272759)



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Date: September 5th, 2014 2:19 PM
Author: laughsome casino water buffalo

(asking for a friend)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2666019&forum_id=2#26272765)



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Date: September 5th, 2014 2:24 PM
Author: Erotic Boyish Hissy Fit



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2666019&forum_id=2#26272790)



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Date: September 5th, 2014 2:50 PM
Author: aquamarine histrionic hominid nursing home



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2666019&forum_id=2#26272928)



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Date: September 5th, 2014 3:11 PM
Author: Bright Boiling Water

My friend wants to know if only "one of the three are problematic". No idea what that means tho.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2666019&forum_id=2#26273034)



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Date: September 5th, 2014 2:21 PM
Author: diverse business firm

you're admitting to a felony bro

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2666019&forum_id=2#26272777)



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Date: September 5th, 2014 2:23 PM
Author: frisky lay

(0L)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2666019&forum_id=2#26272785)



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Date: September 5th, 2014 2:23 PM
Author: Mind-boggling parlour



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2666019&forum_id=2#26272786)



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Date: September 5th, 2014 2:24 PM
Author: sinister center ladyboy

Has Low_IQ_Shtick gone pumo?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2666019&forum_id=2#26272791)



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Date: September 5th, 2014 2:24 PM
Author: Erotic Boyish Hissy Fit

(3L doobs)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2666019&forum_id=2#26272794)



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Date: September 5th, 2014 2:31 PM
Author: Ultramarine galvanic locus regret

(doobs in 5 years)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2666019&forum_id=2#26272830)



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Date: September 5th, 2014 2:42 PM
Author: jet-lagged underhanded chapel

(C.J. Doobs, writing for the majority, finally vindicated after all these years)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2666019&forum_id=2#26272883)



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Date: September 10th, 2014 8:56 PM
Author: Glittery half-breed school cafeteria

(Prof. Doobs)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2666019&forum_id=2#26304407)



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Date: September 5th, 2014 3:10 PM
Author: Dashing Buff Deer Antler

hypothetically speaking, there may have been a shower photo which was far and away better than the other 3 which was posted online for a few minutes (and linked on this bort) before being taken down. of course, everyone surely assumed it was all fake per her statement, plus who was to know when it was taken. so, hypothetically speaking, FBI YOU CAN'T PROVE NOTHING.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2666019&forum_id=2#26273028)



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Date: September 6th, 2014 1:12 AM
Author: Stimulating cruise ship clown



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2666019&forum_id=2#26275546)



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Date: September 5th, 2014 2:28 PM
Author: frisky lay

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s9OhzVEC9I0

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2666019&forum_id=2#26272819)



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Date: September 5th, 2014 2:29 PM
Author: sinister center ladyboy

S dude.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2666019&forum_id=2#26272823)



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Date: September 5th, 2014 2:32 PM
Author: Passionate mental disorder

Defendant's Exhibit 1

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2666019&forum_id=2#26272840)



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Date: September 5th, 2014 2:33 PM
Author: diverse business firm

explain to me how this a turn on for non pedos?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2666019&forum_id=2#26272850)



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Date: September 5th, 2014 2:37 PM
Author: flesh ticket booth tank

seriously think this has less to do with guys wanting to bang 17 year olds per se and more to do with guys lusting after an idealized notion of "being 17" and carefree.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2666019&forum_id=2#26272866)



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Date: September 5th, 2014 2:49 PM
Author: diverse business firm

so in every mckayla thread when jonnyBlaze says "unzip" he's really just unzipping his imagination instead of his pants?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2666019&forum_id=2#26272921)



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Date: September 5th, 2014 2:52 PM
Author: pearly property private investor

I think of it more as unzipping my excitement for life and carefree attitude

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2666019&forum_id=2#26272942)



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Date: September 5th, 2014 2:53 PM
Author: flesh ticket booth tank

no man.

i think its like this:

she satisfies a sort of threshold attractiveness level, and beyond that the intensity of the attraction is really fueled by a sort of alternate-reality reliving-high-school fantasy

or maybe he just wants to fuck a child i dont know

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2666019&forum_id=2#26272947)



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Date: September 5th, 2014 2:54 PM
Author: Mahogany provocative bawdyhouse

he's unzipping his DNA to prepare for replication inside her fertile womb because NATURE INTENDED US TO IMPREGNATE 17 YEAR OLD GIRLS

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2666019&forum_id=2#26272960)



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Date: September 5th, 2014 3:08 PM
Author: Bright Boiling Water

never forget

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OMO3zsQrTF8

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2666019&forum_id=2#26273024)



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Date: September 5th, 2014 3:04 PM
Author: domesticated legal warrant

Anyone else suspicious of this claim?

"No, no, they're fake. Oh, wait, I was underage! You HAVE to delete them now! No, I won't tell you which were underage, assume they all were."

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2666019&forum_id=2#26273009)



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Date: September 5th, 2014 3:06 PM
Author: sinister center ladyboy

I guarantee she recants her statement about them being underage if charged with producing child pornography

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2666019&forum_id=2#26273016)



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Date: September 5th, 2014 3:08 PM
Author: domesticated legal warrant

Yep.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2666019&forum_id=2#26273020)



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Date: September 5th, 2014 3:14 PM
Author: exhilarant carnelian famous landscape painting

some were clearly fake. her twitter status was generic enough to suggest they all were.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2666019&forum_id=2#26273052)



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Date: September 5th, 2014 3:16 PM
Author: Dashing Buff Deer Antler

i genuinely think the first (and only widely-distributed) topless shot was fake, and have said so since the moment it was leaked. completely unlike the way she photographs herself, didn't show her whole face, and the nose didn't look right.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2666019&forum_id=2#26273062)



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Date: September 6th, 2014 1:12 AM
Author: Stimulating cruise ship clown



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2666019&forum_id=2#26275554)



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Date: September 6th, 2014 1:31 AM
Author: Crawly brindle native milk

the funny thing i was actually trust a random xoxo pumo to decipher this.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2666019&forum_id=2#26275696)