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Date: September 7th, 2014 6:30 AM Author: abnormal university indirect expression
I have never been able to understand why men are more attracted to very young teenage girls than older women in their 20s. Biologically speaking, organisms should generally be attracted to mates who are the most fertile and most likely to have healthy offspring. However, girls in their teens haven't reached their peak fertility (peak fertility is around 24/25) and since their bodies aren't fully developed, they often have problems during pregnancy and labor:
http://health.howstuffworks.com/pregnancy-and-parenting/pregnancy/complications/a-guide-to-pregnancy-complications-ga2.htm
So men should prefer women around their early-mid 20s, but they don't; most are more sexually attracted to teens. So why is this? Is it just the taboo, since it's illegal and frowned upon in Western society? I wonder who men are most attracted to in countries/cultures where teen girls are not off limit sexually, such as Islamic areas. There, are men more attracted to the more reproductively fit women in their 20s?
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2667219&forum_id=2#26281221) |
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Date: September 7th, 2014 3:32 PM Author: underhanded range psychic
I'm saying I don't think that's the right assumption.
What we care about is infant & maternal mortality. The number that survives is what matters, since it's the survivors that effectively transmit the genes & increase population. Mating with teens means increasing the risk of maternal AND infant mortality - both of which are massive genetic wastes and dangerous for the tribe when it occurs repeatedly.
You can achieve significantly higher rates of survival AND lower rate of infertility by just waiting a couple of years. This strategy will probably result in higher survival rates and greater population growth.
Now, it may be that since everyone was dead by 22, anyhow, mating with teens was necessary to ensure enough couplings.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2667219&forum_id=2#26282473) |
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Date: September 7th, 2014 3:51 PM Author: underhanded range psychic
The advantage is not only at childbirth. In short, here are the risks:
Mating with a younger woman has a higher incidence of infertility.
Mating with a younger woman has a higher incidence of miscarriage.
Mating with a younger woman has a higher incidence of maternal death.
Mating with a younger woman has a higher incidence of infant death during childbirth.
Mating with a younger woman has a higher incidence of pre-term and underweight deliveries/weaker babies.
Each of these risks, individually, puts downward pressure on population, and collectively, could seriously stymie human communities. And with every mating prior to (or after)peak fertility, the community faces these increased risks. It's more dangerous to the community for a young woman to die than it is for a woman past peak fertility, so the arguments in favor of mating with teens just don't add up.
The only explanation that makes sense is that it was done due to short lifespans and limited availability of peak fertility mates.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2667219&forum_id=2#26282541)
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Date: September 7th, 2014 4:05 PM Author: abnormal university indirect expression
What you're arguing would only make sense if men are limiting themselves to a certain number of sexual partners, and that's not what they're programmed to do.
You say men want to limit other men's access to women they have mated with - that may be true but it doesn't mean that they are limiting themselves to mating with these same women. Men could keep a woman/women for themselves, and still fuck other women. THIS is the dominant strategy.
You're saying men prefer teens because they can begin to mate with them young and have many children with them over a lifetime; this contradicts evolutionary bio. Men are programmed NOT to continue to mate with one woman repeatedly (mating with a diverse assortment of women increases one's odds of having fit children). This is why you get men saying they're bored with fucking a woman they're in an LTR with.
For someone who's calling other people idiots, you don't understand a basic principle of ev. bio. If you don't buy ev. bio. that's one thing, but you're trying to make evolutionary arguments and saying shit that doesn't make any sense.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2667219&forum_id=2#26282617) |
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Date: September 7th, 2014 5:02 PM Author: Blathering silver public bath becky
You should read Nicholas Wade's new book which summarizes the latest science on human evolution. Some form of coupling was present even among the earliest human ancestors. The modern science actually discredits the notion that the conditions and social institutions that humans lived within and created had little impact on natural selection. A certain desire (however weak) for coupling has been selected for, even in men, and it is the result of the costs associated with cheating and the way in which humans were forced to organize themselves.
Relations were more stable than the old evolutionary biologists understood. Women often did stay in harems for long periods of time and men produced offspring from one or a small number of women over the course of a lifetime. To say that these conditions were in opposition to our genetic instincts is to greatly underestimate the speed of natural selection.
Given a short life expectancy and the high costs of cheating, the dominant strategy is to mate with someone who is very young. We can see this in third world countries and even in the west as late as the last century. In the future I imagine the current environmental pressures will select for those who prefer the older women that the poster above refers to.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2667219&forum_id=2#26282889) |
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Date: September 7th, 2014 3:39 PM Author: Twisted Offensive Library Degenerate
I don't think men are more attracted to 17 year olds vs. 25 year olds per se.
I think part of what's going on, especially in this country, is that women start letting themselves go in college and beyond (both with food and alcohol), such that on average the younger girls look better.
I think that when girls put consistent effort into their appearance, they look best in their 20s.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2667219&forum_id=2#26282496) |
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