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Date: September 15th, 2014 9:36 AM Author: Pearl wagecucks locale (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2675170&forum_id=2#26331762) |
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Date: September 15th, 2014 9:38 AM Author: Hairraiser cocky plaza rigor Wtf dude just call a headhunter and ask them these questions (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2675170&forum_id=2#26331774) |
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Date: September 15th, 2014 9:42 AM Author: Pearl wagecucks locale (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2675170&forum_id=2#26331799) |
Date: September 15th, 2014 9:37 AM Author: Aromatic Karate Regret before I answer this, I have one question:
have you been to the grocery store recently? |
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Date: September 15th, 2014 9:37 AM Author: Pearl wagecucks locale On Sat. Picked up some veggies and chix breast. Also grilled out. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2675170&forum_id=2#26331773) |
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Date: September 15th, 2014 9:38 AM Author: Aromatic Karate Regret did you happen to pick up some PEPPER FOR THY ANGUS?? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2675170&forum_id=2#26331776) |
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Date: September 15th, 2014 9:42 AM Author: Pearl wagecucks locale Purchased last week (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2675170&forum_id=2#26331801) |
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Date: September 15th, 2014 9:53 AM Author: Crimson center sandwich For any kind of lit, including IP, finding in-house is going to take a while and a whole lot of luck.
Do you have any experience with prosecution or IP transactions? How good is your tech background? |
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Date: September 15th, 2014 9:56 AM Author: Pearl wagecucks locale (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2675170&forum_id=2#26331864) |
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Date: September 15th, 2014 9:59 AM Author: Crimson center sandwich What kind of degree(s) do you have and from what schools?
Honestly, the odds are so poor for litigation I'm not sure it's worth discussing in terms of months or even years. Give it a shot, but don't count on anything coming in soon or ever.
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Date: September 15th, 2014 10:12 AM Author: Pearl wagecucks locale (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2675170&forum_id=2#26331920) |
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Date: September 15th, 2014 10:15 AM Author: Crimson center sandwich Yeah, that's a decent angle. Taking the patent bar might not be a bad idea either. It's not a very hard test. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2675170&forum_id=2#26331945) |
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Date: September 15th, 2014 10:39 AM Author: Pearl wagecucks locale (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2675170&forum_id=2#26332084) |
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Date: September 15th, 2014 10:43 AM Author: Crimson center sandwich True, but at least it makes you look like you are trying to be a well-rounded IP lawyer, which is what companies need. They don't want pure shittigators, most of the skills you learn in BigLit just aren't all that useful. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2675170&forum_id=2#26332111) |
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Date: September 15th, 2014 10:45 AM Author: Pearl wagecucks locale (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2675170&forum_id=2#26332129) |
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Date: September 15th, 2014 10:46 AM Author: Crimson center sandwich Buy the prep materials used on ebay? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2675170&forum_id=2#26332134) |
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Date: September 15th, 2014 10:47 AM Author: Pearl wagecucks locale (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2675170&forum_id=2#26332142) |
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Date: September 15th, 2014 10:16 AM Author: unholy diverse address brother, what sites were you looking at? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2675170&forum_id=2#26331950) |
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Date: September 15th, 2014 10:41 AM Author: Pearl wagecucks locale (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2675170&forum_id=2#26332101) |
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Date: September 15th, 2014 10:42 AM Author: unholy diverse address i don't have any other ideas, brother, sorry. i was just curious as to where one looks in these situations. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2675170&forum_id=2#26332109) |
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Date: September 15th, 2014 10:44 AM Author: Pearl wagecucks locale (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2675170&forum_id=2#26332119) |
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Date: September 15th, 2014 10:49 AM Author: unholy diverse address ty, brother. i have like zero linkedin presence, so i guess i'll finally have to give in. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2675170&forum_id=2#26332147) |
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Date: September 15th, 2014 10:51 AM Author: Abusive trip sanctuary haunted graveyard It can take a long long time to go in-house. Look at all the in-house postings you see and identify the recruiting firms that are posting them. Call up the person who is associated with those positions, get coffee and bring a resume. It can take more than a year to find the right fit, but the earlier you start the better.
From the time you get your initial interview it can range from weeks to months depending on the need. That's why you need to start now. |
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Date: September 15th, 2014 10:52 AM Author: Pearl wagecucks locale TY. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2675170&forum_id=2#26332164) |
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Date: September 15th, 2014 10:54 AM Author: Vengeful hell hunting ground For me it was a few months, but I didn't really go through a formal process so much as CEO saying he "might be working on something for me" for a long time, then one day we had lunch and I realized halfway through that he was pitching me on joining the company. As an aside, being a programmer lawyer is the fucking shit, man. I know a dood who got brought in to an established tech co as regular in house counsel and a short while later he's fast tracked to be a VP who will do a little lawyer time to help with patent pros, all because he understands their actual business and the legal side as well. I obviously made out like a bandit, too. |
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Date: September 15th, 2014 11:01 AM Author: Crimson center sandwich This is a good post. OP just needs to distance himself from all the big litigation, and focus more on being a tech guy who understands the law as well. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2675170&forum_id=2#26332201) |
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Date: September 15th, 2014 11:05 AM Author: Pearl wagecucks locale (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2675170&forum_id=2#26332220) |
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Date: September 15th, 2014 11:04 AM Author: Pearl wagecucks locale (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2675170&forum_id=2#26332213) |
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Date: September 15th, 2014 11:11 AM Author: Vengeful hell hunting ground I am a social person with a very wide network of friends. This guy and I had a mutual friend and we got to know each other through regular hangout sessions watching football and shit at the mutual friend's house. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2675170&forum_id=2#26332263) |
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Date: September 16th, 2014 3:32 PM Author: Abusive trip sanctuary haunted graveyard Oh, that explains it. My industry is old as fuck dudes at the helm all of whom despise lawyers and laws. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2675170&forum_id=2#26340044) |
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Date: September 20th, 2014 8:51 PM Author: Vengeful hell hunting ground (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2675170&forum_id=2#26364588) |
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Date: September 15th, 2014 1:09 PM Author: emerald rehab lettuce The only reliable way to increase your chances is to find someone you know at the company who will go to bat for you and have that person submit your resume. Ideally this person would be an attorney in the Legal department and the company would have open positions they're actively searching to fill. But a standout business person can also help if they have a good relationship with Legal.
Also don't limit yourself to tech companies. You probably stand the best chance to sell yourself as someone who can ramp quickly on IP-related stuff generally, and be more of a swiss army knife for some corporate background GC who wants to handle all the board stuff and find an underling to do day to day transactional, lit and compliance work. |
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Date: September 15th, 2014 1:28 PM Author: Pearl wagecucks locale (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2675170&forum_id=2#26332978) |
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Date: September 15th, 2014 5:50 PM Author: Burgundy codepig associate It took about 2 months for me from the first interview to actually being able to give notice at my firm (this includes second and third interviews, pre-employment screening, salary/package negotiations, etc.). (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2675170&forum_id=2#26334299) |
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Date: September 15th, 2014 5:56 PM Author: Crimson center sandwich how many places did you interview? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2675170&forum_id=2#26334314) |
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Date: September 16th, 2014 2:15 PM Author: Burgundy codepig associate I would say that I interviewed (or at least had discussions with) about ten different companies over a two year period. Was formally offered three different positions. Passed on the first two early on and then took the third one maybe twelve months later. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2675170&forum_id=2#26339507) |
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Date: September 16th, 2014 12:09 PM Author: Pearl wagecucks locale (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2675170&forum_id=2#26338785) |
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Date: September 16th, 2014 2:22 PM Author: Burgundy codepig associate I was about 50% M&A and 50% commercial/operational in a bit of a niche industry. I actually ended up moving in house to a technology company, which was a bit of a departure from the industry that I had been working in for quite a few years (both before and after law school). The company was less focused on my lack of relevant industry knowledge/experience and more focused on my deal experience, so the hire made sense for them.
I was a bit lucky in that the interview fell into my lap. The company called the managing partner at my first firm and asked whether he knew anybody who would fit the bill. He called me and asked if I would be interested. The company reached out to me the next day and I did a first interview a few days later. |
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Date: September 16th, 2014 2:31 PM Author: yapping excitant macaca landing in-house gig could realistically take up to 2 yrs bro, especially if you're in niche practice area and aren't willing to relocate geographically (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2675170&forum_id=2#26339608) |
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Date: September 16th, 2014 3:30 PM Author: exhilarant unhinged jap antidepressant drug I work in tech (50 people at the company, so not a startup but not a mature business) on the business side and help manage our outside counsel. We're not looking to hire an in-house bro at the moment but if we were to, our criteria would not be as precise or severe as everyone here is making it out to be.
It would basically be like, "Has this guy worked on stuff tangentially related to what we do and the legal issues we face?" and "Do we like him?"
At mature businesses with corporate bureaucracy I'm sure there's more red tape and a precise focus on credentials and truly relevant experience. |