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Socially anxious bros: Do you avert eye contact when lying?

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Insane Pit
  09/15/14
never back down until the other person has incontrovertible ...
infuriating stirring trailer park
  09/15/14
CR. If this isn't obvious you're not fit to lie.
irate place of business
  09/16/14
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Insane Pit
  09/16/14
i'm a sociopath, but generally, people are very reluctant to...
infuriating stirring trailer park
  09/16/14
aka be julia
comical haunting piazza travel guidebook
  09/16/14
bluesmoke used to be great at leading people down subthread ...
infuriating stirring trailer park
  09/16/14
shrewmo, box, and 29 also great at this. scratching my head ...
Stubborn hospital
  09/16/14
focusing on minor specifics and attacking to change the subj...
infuriating stirring trailer park
  09/16/14
oh i just meant everyone mentioned was an (xo wo
Stubborn hospital
  09/16/14
yeah- i'd say one should only do it when flailing about and ...
infuriating stirring trailer park
  09/16/14
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Insane Pit
  09/16/14
oh, this is dvp. well, here's a tip: kill yourself.
infuriating stirring trailer park
  09/16/14
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Stubborn hospital
  09/16/14
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comical haunting piazza travel guidebook
  09/16/14
i pulled this exact same tack when my wife found some girls'...
Electric shrine boiling water
  09/16/14
I avert my eyes always. People always think I'm lying. It's ...
Fighting boltzmann
  09/16/14
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Insane Pit
  09/16/14
Usually I force myself to make eye contact, but it doesn't s...
Fighting boltzmann
  09/16/14
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Insane Pit
  09/16/14
yeah maybe when i'm caught in a lie and i don't have time to...
comical haunting piazza travel guidebook
  09/15/14
Yes, but I do it when telling the truth too, so it's all goo...
copper rambunctious blood rage
  09/15/14
(truly socially anxious bro)
Stubborn hospital
  09/16/14
cr
dun gunner bawdyhouse
  09/16/14
just do never lie
Stubborn hospital
  09/16/14
what if a mobster wants to know if u really meant it not fla...
charismatic whorehouse
  09/16/14
lol
Stubborn hospital
  09/16/14
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Silver bearded office
  09/16/14
Just believe that what you are saying is true. Give speci...
sable marketing idea jap
  09/16/14
(George costanza)
lascivious rough-skinned tank area
  09/16/14
I just avert eyes at all times. Socially anxious.
drab address trust fund
  09/16/14
flame?
comical haunting piazza travel guidebook
  09/16/14
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Insane Pit
  09/16/14
Alternative: When you're probably gonna have to lie, do it b...
lilac church building coffee pot
  09/16/14
why is this a thread
Salmon sanctuary partner
  09/16/14


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Date: September 15th, 2014 11:58 PM
Author: Insane Pit



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2675746&forum_id=2#26336554)



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Date: September 15th, 2014 11:59 PM
Author: infuriating stirring trailer park

never back down until the other person has incontrovertible proof, then go on the offensive.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2675746&forum_id=2#26336563)



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Date: September 16th, 2014 12:01 AM
Author: irate place of business

CR. If this isn't obvious you're not fit to lie.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2675746&forum_id=2#26336576)



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Date: September 16th, 2014 12:03 AM
Author: Insane Pit



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2675746&forum_id=2#26336587)



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Date: September 16th, 2014 12:12 AM
Author: infuriating stirring trailer park

i'm a sociopath, but generally, people are very reluctant to call others out for lying, so even if you suspect that the other person thinks/knows you are lying, you can wait them out and the lie becomes the truth you both accept.

if they do call you out on a lie and cite evidence, seize on one or two incorrect facts in their evidence and fight them on those points, make the whole argument about those issues, and when you are able to demonstrate the falsity of those minor claims, act like you have conclusively demonstrated the truth of your whole fabrication.

if they have absolute, incorruptible proof of a lie, either feign embarrassment and admit to lying, but lie about you reason for doing so ("those weird texts on my phone were planning a surprise birthday party for you") or continue to deny that you are lying and attack them for not believing you, snooping, or something else ("i can't believe you don't trust me, this is just like the time that you [unrelated bullshit]").

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2675746&forum_id=2#26336660)



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Date: September 16th, 2014 12:12 AM
Author: comical haunting piazza travel guidebook

aka be julia

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2675746&forum_id=2#26336670)



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Date: September 16th, 2014 12:15 AM
Author: infuriating stirring trailer park

bluesmoke used to be great at leading people down subthread wastelands arguing some minor facet of a pwning.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2675746&forum_id=2#26336687)



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Date: September 16th, 2014 12:16 AM
Author: Stubborn hospital

shrewmo, box, and 29 also great at this. scratching my head to think of what all those posters have in common

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2675746&forum_id=2#26336697)



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Date: September 16th, 2014 12:22 AM
Author: infuriating stirring trailer park

focusing on minor specifics and attacking to change the subject are complete desperate bitch moves, but sometimes you can gaslight your way out of being exposed as a complete fraud by fighting on the details.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2675746&forum_id=2#26336736)



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Date: September 16th, 2014 12:23 AM
Author: Stubborn hospital

oh i just meant everyone mentioned was an (xo wo

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2675746&forum_id=2#26336744)



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Date: September 16th, 2014 12:56 AM
Author: infuriating stirring trailer park

yeah- i'd say one should only do it when flailing about and preserving a lie is more important than preserving your honor, but y'all xo women do it for sport.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2675746&forum_id=2#26336956)



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Date: September 16th, 2014 12:43 AM
Author: Insane Pit



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2675746&forum_id=2#26336875)



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Date: September 16th, 2014 12:52 AM
Author: infuriating stirring trailer park

oh, this is dvp. well, here's a tip: kill yourself.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2675746&forum_id=2#26336931)



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Date: September 16th, 2014 12:54 AM
Author: Stubborn hospital



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2675746&forum_id=2#26336942)



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Date: September 16th, 2014 1:09 AM
Author: comical haunting piazza travel guidebook



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2675746&forum_id=2#26337034)



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Date: September 16th, 2014 2:16 PM
Author: Electric shrine boiling water

i pulled this exact same tack when my wife found some girls' numbers that I was working on the sly. basically made up a lie and just attacked her with the trust issue. it worked. she broke down crying and i kicked her out. lol. she came back begging and never brought it up again.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2675746&forum_id=2#26339519)



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Date: September 16th, 2014 12:00 AM
Author: Fighting boltzmann

I avert my eyes always. People always think I'm lying. It's actually really shitty. The vast majority of people do not realize that empirical studies have shown that averted gaze is actually a SPS indicator of whether someone is lying.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2675746&forum_id=2#26336574)



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Date: September 16th, 2014 12:02 AM
Author: Insane Pit



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2675746&forum_id=2#26336583)



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Date: September 16th, 2014 12:09 AM
Author: Fighting boltzmann

Usually I force myself to make eye contact, but it doesn't seem to help much because they can see it makes me visibly uncomfortable. Other times I'll just say fuck it, look at whatever makes me feel most comfortable (i.e., something off in the distance), slide and let it do what it do. The two strategies are roughly equally disastrous on average.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2675746&forum_id=2#26336631)



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Date: September 16th, 2014 12:44 AM
Author: Insane Pit



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2675746&forum_id=2#26336880)



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Date: September 15th, 2014 11:59 PM
Author: comical haunting piazza travel guidebook

yeah maybe when i'm caught in a lie and i don't have time to react. otherwise, when i know i'm going to be lying, i compose myself and stare right at them

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2675746&forum_id=2#26336559)



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Date: September 15th, 2014 11:59 PM
Author: copper rambunctious blood rage

Yes, but I do it when telling the truth too, so it's all good

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2675746&forum_id=2#26336561)



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Date: September 16th, 2014 12:00 AM
Author: Stubborn hospital

(truly socially anxious bro)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2675746&forum_id=2#26336572)



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Date: September 16th, 2014 1:16 AM
Author: dun gunner bawdyhouse

cr

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2675746&forum_id=2#26337079)



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Date: September 16th, 2014 12:00 AM
Author: Stubborn hospital

just do never lie

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2675746&forum_id=2#26336573)



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Date: September 16th, 2014 12:07 AM
Author: charismatic whorehouse

what if a mobster wants to know if u really meant it not flame that Sicilians were spawned by niggers

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2675746&forum_id=2#26336620)



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Date: September 16th, 2014 12:09 AM
Author: Stubborn hospital

lol

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2675746&forum_id=2#26336640)



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Date: September 16th, 2014 1:41 AM
Author: Silver bearded office



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2675746&forum_id=2#26337175)



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Date: September 16th, 2014 12:06 AM
Author: sable marketing idea jap

Just believe that what you are saying is true.

Give specific details.

Act normal.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2675746&forum_id=2#26336616)



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Date: September 16th, 2014 1:26 AM
Author: lascivious rough-skinned tank area

(George costanza)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2675746&forum_id=2#26337132)



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Date: September 16th, 2014 12:21 AM
Author: drab address trust fund

I just avert eyes at all times. Socially anxious.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2675746&forum_id=2#26336728)



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Date: September 16th, 2014 12:45 AM
Author: comical haunting piazza travel guidebook

flame?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2675746&forum_id=2#26336888)



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Date: September 16th, 2014 2:04 PM
Author: Insane Pit



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2675746&forum_id=2#26339442)



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Date: September 16th, 2014 2:11 PM
Author: lilac church building coffee pot

Alternative: When you're probably gonna have to lie, do it by phone. When you have to be in person, say in a context where you don't have to look at a person. Be walking alongside them or grabbing something from the fridge or w/e.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2675746&forum_id=2#26339488)



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Date: September 16th, 2014 2:12 PM
Author: Salmon sanctuary partner

why is this a thread

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2675746&forum_id=2#26339500)