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Was law school worth it for you? [SERIOUS]

I'm not asking whether you like/liked being in biglaw (of co...
Sexy Insecure Plaza
  09/27/14
SHORT-ATTENTION-SPAN-MO HERE. I WENT TO LAW SCHOOL FOR THE ...
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  11/01/16
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Impressive Property
  11/01/16
Law school was fun as hell. 1L is stressful but even then yo...
Violet motley associate step-uncle's house
  09/27/14
BTW: I'm jelly as fuck you get to apply in the era of plumme...
Violet motley associate step-uncle's house
  09/27/14
That's one of the other reasons I think it makes sense to sh...
Sexy Insecure Plaza
  09/27/14
What school, or at least tier did you attend?
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  09/29/14
loans and post-law school aside, yes, this is the correct an...
dark yarmulke den
  11/21/16
i fucking love it here. we get to drink in class and there a...
Learning Disabled Brunch
  09/27/14
There are good dudes there. Met some of my best bros while I...
Violet motley associate step-uncle's house
  09/27/14
lol
Thriller erotic public bath friendly grandma
  09/27/14
Explain
Violet motley associate step-uncle's house
  09/27/14
really disliked law school and in my experience found people...
Thriller erotic public bath friendly grandma
  09/27/14
wait are you saying people who make friends are bad
Learning Disabled Brunch
  09/27/14
specifically people who make a lot of friends in law school ...
Thriller erotic public bath friendly grandma
  09/27/14
my closest friends are fraternity bros from undergrad. those...
Learning Disabled Brunch
  09/27/14
the chill fratty dudes self-select for sure, it just happens...
Thriller erotic public bath friendly grandma
  09/27/14
That sucks. I just find it hard to believe there aren't at l...
Violet motley associate step-uncle's house
  09/27/14
there are a few, but my point is applied generally and I'd p...
Thriller erotic public bath friendly grandma
  09/27/14
It's acp bro he wines a lot not surprising he didn't find ch...
Navy roommate
  09/27/14
? there were some chill bros to be friends with, but it's...
Thriller erotic public bath friendly grandma
  09/27/14
yeah i guess. it is weird when people seem to forget they ha...
Navy roommate
  09/27/14
JD/MBA with explicit intent to not practice = auto don't do....
Thriller erotic public bath friendly grandma
  09/27/14
There are two types of people who do well socially in law sc...
Chocolate startled lodge
  09/27/14
What kind of UG did you go to that it was hard to "brea...
Violet motley associate step-uncle's house
  09/27/14
I'm a huge nerd and my idea of a fun time is NOT just sittin...
Chocolate startled lodge
  09/27/14
the people it was good for are the people who go on to have ...
thirsty sweet tailpipe
  09/27/14
last line = so fucking fucking cr
Thriller erotic public bath friendly grandma
  09/27/14
it takes dumbs a good while to figure life out
thirsty sweet tailpipe
  09/27/14
why just dumbs? plenty of 3rd yr associates who look around ...
Thriller erotic public bath friendly grandma
  09/27/14
(Law school grad)
Fragrant incel kitty
  09/27/14
That's my nagging feeling -- which leads me to ask myself th...
Sexy Insecure Plaza
  09/27/14
JD has very little value-add tacked onto the MBA
Chocolate startled lodge
  09/27/14
makes a lot more sense to take a biz law class or two, they'...
Thriller erotic public bath friendly grandma
  09/27/14
That's what I'm thinking. I guess I'm just trying to not com...
Sexy Insecure Plaza
  09/27/14
Feeling shitty about wasted LSAT prep for a few weeks >&g...
Duck-like Rigor
  09/27/14
School is nice but no I ended up making the same as I cou...
Navy roommate
  09/27/14
Law school itself was awesome. The value of those three yea...
Fragrant incel kitty
  09/27/14
an enormous fucking NO for me. i don't practice law and i ow...
soul-stirring dragon national
  09/27/14
What do you do for a living?
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  09/29/14
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Impressive Property
  11/01/16
Another huge mark in the CON column (found by searching JD/M...
Sexy Insecure Plaza
  09/27/14
"Was your law school experience (the classes, the assig...
Chest-beating mewling university
  09/27/14
I'm 99% sure I do not want to be a lawyer. There are a few p...
Sexy Insecure Plaza
  09/27/14
"I'm 99% sure I do not want to be a lawyer." So...
Chest-beating mewling university
  09/27/14
this isn't unique to law school. lol at not enjoying friends
Learning Disabled Brunch
  09/27/14
Compare to undergrad where people change major 3 times becau...
Chest-beating mewling university
  09/27/14
The jd/mba is worthless. People who have it don't practice a...
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  09/27/14
I'm starting to figure that out. I was a UG poli-sci shithea...
Sexy Insecure Plaza
  09/27/14
explore the GMAT!
Impressive Property
  11/01/16
yes because being a biglaw associate sucks (it really does) ...
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Sexy Insecure Plaza
  09/27/14
Law school itself was a vacation. Practice of law itself...
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  11/22/16
Yes. I had a 3.1 from a mediocre state school and a majo...
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  09/29/14
how did you cop? (assuming 170 + lsat or urm)
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  09/29/14
Viewing it solely as an academic expierience, I would rank i...
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  09/29/14
Undergrad was a good experience. Law school was just kind of...
Dead bawdyhouse
  09/29/14
Law school was three of the best years of my life and i made...
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  11/01/16
Disn't you see the SERIOUS tag, you faggot?
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i am serious. i generally woke up around 9, worked out two h...
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I feel bad for you, son.
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  11/02/16
My life was destroyed
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Destroyed my life. Still clawing out of the mess it created....
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With zero loans, I can say that it was well worth it. I lik...
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"it felt like being in prison - bored, wanting to go ba...
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No, actually.
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with nearly $300K in student loan debt and a mediocre job ma...
soul-stirring dragon national
  11/01/16
Gov or nonprofit?
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  11/01/16
nope
soul-stirring dragon national
  11/01/16
Wtf flame? U can never pay those loans off then bro...and...
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i know. fuck me, right?
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Have 600,000 reasons it was worth it but it still sucks and ...
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Just do forsake family and friends and you too can drink jui...
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ill settle down with some subhuman AZNgirl eventually, so i ...
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I thought u hated azns....ljl
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That was going to happen to TT regardless
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Impressive Property
  11/01/16
Meh. Law school was just more school.
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I hated it and would not do it again. Most law students ...
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  11/01/16
It was pretty good. Basically a 3-year vacation from work. ...
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CR School is 180 I bet med school is 180 compared to w...
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  11/01/16
No. it has essentially ruined my life
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OP was tl;dr But from a purely financial perspective it w...
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  11/02/16
why? im in a similar prelaw career, hate it. everything abou...
Impressive Property
  11/20/16
Paid sticker and took 4 years of biglaw to pay off debt. Iv...
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  11/20/16
Would you rather be working A fairly dead end project manage...
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Date: September 27th, 2014 5:13 PM
Author: Sexy Insecure Plaza

I'm not asking whether you like/liked being in biglaw (of course you don't/didn't) or regret taking on debt (of course you do -- significant debt can be soul-crushing and affects almost every aspect of your life).

I'm also not asking about the value of law school in the context of trying to get a job practicing law -- I know that even students at "good" schools can have real trouble finding well-paying legal work after graduation.

Here's what I'm asking:

Was your law school experience (the classes, the assignments, the friendships you made) enjoyable and valuable in and of itself? I mean the classes and assignments, the clinics/programs, the summer gigs you did, the social atmosphere, the relationships with professors and the professional network you built.

Background: I'm planning to send out LS apps soon (ONLY to HYSCCNP) but not planning to go to LS unless I get huge $$$ from one of them (or get into H/S with at least some $, or get into Y). I'm 150% sold on the notion that from a getting-a-job-and-being-financially-secure perspective, a JD is not the best option and I should instead figure out something else to do with my life and/or try for an MBA. But I took the LSAT, have a very good score, and have LS recs already -- so the personal statements are all I have left to do. I have fee waivers to CCNP, so I'd only have to pay for the HYS apps. It's early in the cycle, which increases my chances of getting into a good school. My plan is to get into that school, defer for 1 or 2 years, get experience in an industry more interesting than biglaw, and then do a JD/MBA at that school without having to revisit the law school application process in the future.

So I'm really asking whether I should:

(a) apply now and keep a T7+$$$ acceptance letter with deferred matriculation on the shelf (to tack onto an MBA in the future); or

(b) not bother to secure acceptance to a T7 school at all, and just focus on career and possible MBA down the road.

It comes down to whether LS is enjoyable/valuable in and of itself, since I would only be doing the JD on top of the MBA for the LS experience. I'd take the bar, but I wouldn't plan on practicing, certainly not in biglaw.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2685889&forum_id=2#26409920)



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Date: November 1st, 2016 9:45 PM
Author: offensive fuchsia church philosopher-king

SHORT-ATTENTION-SPAN-MO HERE. I WENT TO LAW SCHOOL FOR THE PRESTIGE. I DID OCI FOR THE PRESTIGE. I GOT THE PRESTIGE. IT IS DISAPPOINTING.

LAW SCHOOL WAS WONDERFUL. LONG-WINDED, MEANDERING CONVERSATIONS WITH MY FELLOW LAW STUDENTS ABOUT INTELLECTUAL TOPICS THAT NO PRACTICAL HUMAN BEING GIVES TWO SHITS ABOUT WERE FASCINATING TO ME. AFTER GRADUATION, HOWEVER, I REALIZED THAT THESE CONVERSATIONS DID NOT IMPRESS AND, IN FACT, ANNOYED THE PEOPLE WHO PAID ME THE SALARY THAT I USE TO PAY DOWN MY LOANS.

YADA YADA YADA.

FIGURE OUT WHAT YOU WANT TO DO AND THEN DO THAT THING. DO NOT BORROW MONEY TO LEARN HOW TO DO THAT THING. TEACH YOURSELF HOW TO DO THAT THING. THEN DO THAT THING.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2685889&forum_id=2#31779868)



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Date: November 1st, 2016 9:53 PM
Author: Impressive Property



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2685889&forum_id=2#31779923)



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Date: September 27th, 2014 5:16 PM
Author: Violet motley associate step-uncle's house

Law school was fun as hell. 1L is stressful but even then you can drnk hard with little responsibility for at least 2 months out of the semester. If you get big law 2L and 3L are a joke. You can literally party at all times and still get good grades if you study hard for about 3 weeks a semster

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2685889&forum_id=2#26409943)



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Date: September 27th, 2014 5:17 PM
Author: Violet motley associate step-uncle's house

BTW: I'm jelly as fuck you get to apply in the era of plummeting LSAT medians

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2685889&forum_id=2#26409950)



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Date: September 27th, 2014 5:18 PM
Author: Sexy Insecure Plaza

That's one of the other reasons I think it makes sense to shoot out apps this cycle (and soon).

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2685889&forum_id=2#26409962)



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Date: September 29th, 2014 8:41 PM
Author: indecent magenta organic girlfriend base

What school, or at least tier did you attend?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2685889&forum_id=2#26423832)



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Date: November 21st, 2016 3:35 AM
Author: dark yarmulke den

loans and post-law school aside, yes, this is the correct analysis.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2685889&forum_id=2#31959935)



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Date: September 27th, 2014 5:16 PM
Author: Learning Disabled Brunch

i fucking love it here. we get to drink in class and there are more chill bros than i thought there would be. not many hot girls but i kind of expected that.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2685889&forum_id=2#26409947)



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Date: September 27th, 2014 5:17 PM
Author: Violet motley associate step-uncle's house

There are good dudes there. Met some of my best bros while I was in LS

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2685889&forum_id=2#26409956)



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Date: September 27th, 2014 5:18 PM
Author: Thriller erotic public bath friendly grandma

lol

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2685889&forum_id=2#26409965)



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Date: September 27th, 2014 5:20 PM
Author: Violet motley associate step-uncle's house

Explain

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2685889&forum_id=2#26409974)



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Date: September 27th, 2014 5:21 PM
Author: Thriller erotic public bath friendly grandma

really disliked law school and in my experience found people who made a lot of LS friends to harbor man of the shitty law student personality quirks

but you seem like a chill pumo so I don't mean anything bad about you

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2685889&forum_id=2#26409978)



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Date: September 27th, 2014 5:23 PM
Author: Learning Disabled Brunch

wait are you saying people who make friends are bad

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2685889&forum_id=2#26409988)



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Date: September 27th, 2014 5:24 PM
Author: Thriller erotic public bath friendly grandma

specifically people who make a lot of friends in law school

but I carve out exceptions for people like you and the pumo above

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2685889&forum_id=2#26409996)



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Date: September 27th, 2014 5:29 PM
Author: Learning Disabled Brunch

my closest friends are fraternity bros from undergrad. those are probably the people whose wedding i'll be in etc., but it's hard not to make friends with the chill friendly dudes around you in class when they're offering you cups of pumpkin ale to drink during torts or whatever

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2685889&forum_id=2#26410033)



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Date: September 27th, 2014 5:49 PM
Author: Thriller erotic public bath friendly grandma

the chill fratty dudes self-select for sure, it just happens naturally

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2685889&forum_id=2#26410185)



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Date: September 27th, 2014 5:23 PM
Author: Violet motley associate step-uncle's house

That sucks. I just find it hard to believe there aren't at least a few relatively normal, down to earth people to be friends with at every school

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2685889&forum_id=2#26409991)



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Date: September 27th, 2014 5:24 PM
Author: Thriller erotic public bath friendly grandma

there are a few, but my point is applied generally and I'd probably estimate 85% of law schools are either utterly boring or insufferable to a degree that outweighs trying to spend free time with them

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2685889&forum_id=2#26410000)



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Date: September 27th, 2014 5:30 PM
Author: Navy roommate

It's acp bro he wines a lot not surprising he didn't find chill fratty broz to be friends with

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2685889&forum_id=2#26410041)



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Date: September 27th, 2014 5:49 PM
Author: Thriller erotic public bath friendly grandma

?

there were some chill bros to be friends with, but it's kind of weird when people fill up their weddings with law school friends; no HS? no college? no younger childhood? you've implied in other threads that lawyers are kinda shitty people man

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2685889&forum_id=2#26410180)



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Date: September 27th, 2014 5:52 PM
Author: Navy roommate

yeah i guess. it is weird when people seem to forget they had friends before law school.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2685889&forum_id=2#26410207)



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Date: September 27th, 2014 5:17 PM
Author: Thriller erotic public bath friendly grandma

JD/MBA with explicit intent to not practice = auto don't do. no. the only possible justification for a JD and not 100% commitment to practice might be a public policy route, but even then it's highly variable on other factors

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2685889&forum_id=2#26409957)



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Date: September 27th, 2014 5:20 PM
Author: Chocolate startled lodge

There are two types of people who do well socially in law school: chill, fratty bros do well, because the "chill bro" scene in law school is so much easier to break into than in UG, and dudes who are super nerdy about the law and find other law nerds to hang out with

I fall into neither of these two groups so my law school social life was hell. I made no friends in law school that I still keep in touch with. I was alone and depressed most of the time.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2685889&forum_id=2#26409970)



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Date: September 27th, 2014 5:21 PM
Author: Violet motley associate step-uncle's house

What kind of UG did you go to that it was hard to "break into" the scene of chill people drinking?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2685889&forum_id=2#26409977)



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Date: September 27th, 2014 5:22 PM
Author: Chocolate startled lodge

I'm a huge nerd and my idea of a fun time is NOT just sitting around crushing beers, and never will be.

But I'm not nerdy about the law, so I could hang out with neither the law nerds or the chill bros.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2685889&forum_id=2#26409983)



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Date: September 27th, 2014 5:20 PM
Author: thirsty sweet tailpipe

the people it was good for are the people who go on to have strong careers. Most (85%?) end up in a shitter of a career. Some of those will think that LS was worth it initially, but over time, once they hit 30s, they realize it was a waste of time.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2685889&forum_id=2#26409971)



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Date: September 27th, 2014 5:20 PM
Author: Thriller erotic public bath friendly grandma

last line = so fucking fucking cr

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2685889&forum_id=2#26409975)



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Date: September 27th, 2014 5:25 PM
Author: thirsty sweet tailpipe

it takes dumbs a good while to figure life out

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2685889&forum_id=2#26410004)



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Date: September 27th, 2014 5:27 PM
Author: Thriller erotic public bath friendly grandma

why just dumbs? plenty of 3rd yr associates who look around and realize "holy fuck I did it all for this? this is my nookie??!"

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2685889&forum_id=2#26410020)



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Date: September 27th, 2014 5:49 PM
Author: Fragrant incel kitty

(Law school grad)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2685889&forum_id=2#26410184)



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Date: September 27th, 2014 5:27 PM
Author: Sexy Insecure Plaza

That's my nagging feeling -- which leads me to ask myself these important questions (which I don't know the answers to):

If I can get into a good B-school, then what will law school and taking the bar really do for me? If I don't want to practice law, then why bother? If it's just that I'm interested in studying something in addition to business the next time I'm in school, then I may as well consider taking one or two classes at the law school (or in any other graduate school at that university) while I'm doing my MBA, rather than doing a dual degree.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2685889&forum_id=2#26410011)



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Date: September 27th, 2014 5:27 PM
Author: Chocolate startled lodge

JD has very little value-add tacked onto the MBA

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2685889&forum_id=2#26410016)



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Date: September 27th, 2014 5:28 PM
Author: Thriller erotic public bath friendly grandma

makes a lot more sense to take a biz law class or two, they'll have cross-listed classes fo sho

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2685889&forum_id=2#26410023)



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Date: September 27th, 2014 5:41 PM
Author: Sexy Insecure Plaza

That's what I'm thinking. I guess I'm just trying to not come to the conclusion that LSAT prep and taking it multiple times in order to get a high score has been for nothing. That "well that was a waste" feeling isn't so awesome -- but perhaps it's better to just move on from the LS idea, rather than letting guilt over the sunk costs manipulate me into sinking more time/money into something that I don't even want for any practical reason.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2685889&forum_id=2#26410127)



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Date: September 27th, 2014 6:13 PM
Author: Duck-like Rigor

Feeling shitty about wasted LSAT prep for a few weeks >>> hating your life for several years while you work at a BIGLAW firm and desperately search for a way out

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2685889&forum_id=2#26410398)



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Date: September 27th, 2014 5:22 PM
Author: Navy roommate

School is nice but no

I ended up making the same as I could have without the degree and now I'm a lawyer working with other lawyers

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2685889&forum_id=2#26409979)



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Date: September 27th, 2014 5:28 PM
Author: Fragrant incel kitty

Law school itself was awesome. The value of those three years was definitely worth $25k or so.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2685889&forum_id=2#26410022)



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Date: September 27th, 2014 5:47 PM
Author: soul-stirring dragon national

an enormous fucking NO for me. i don't practice law and i owe over $250K in student loans.

edit: oh school itself? also no. but a lowercase no. it was alright. not interesting but not stressful either.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2685889&forum_id=2#26410169)



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Date: September 29th, 2014 11:52 PM
Author: stimulating dilemma knife

What do you do for a living?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2685889&forum_id=2#26425518)



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Date: November 1st, 2016 10:06 AM
Author: Impressive Property



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2685889&forum_id=2#31774091)



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Date: September 27th, 2014 5:55 PM
Author: Sexy Insecure Plaza

Another huge mark in the CON column (found by searching JD/MBA in the XO search):

A joint degree is going to be a pain in the ass because you won't be with either class for the full program in succession. You'll be a social pariah like an EMBA azn prop trader or a know-it-all foreign LLM. Just do best 2 years of your life MBA.

http://www.xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=2654549&mc=45&forum_id=2#26193007

At this point I can barely remember my serious justifications (if there were any) for wanting to send out the LS apps. Fuck...you guys are good. Glad I didn't make an account on TLS to ask them this question -- they would have said nonsensical shit.

I really think that despite the numerous, serious downsides of this chatweetblog, it has been good for one thing -- it's kept me (and others like me) from fooling ourselves into getting a JD.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2685889&forum_id=2#26410245)



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Date: September 27th, 2014 5:55 PM
Author: Chest-beating mewling university

"Was your law school experience (the classes, the assignments, the friendships you made) enjoyable and valuable in and of itself?"

LOL, of course not. This is a trade school. It exists for one and ONLY one reason: to prepare you to be a lawyer. That is it. The assignments, subject matter, grading and even friendships all exist solely to advance that purpose. You don't go to law school to "learn to think differently" or "to explore another career." You go to be a lawyer. If you're not sure you're interested in that, then figure that out BEFORE applying.

And yes, I went to a T6 school. For crappier schools it gets even worse. For real TTTs it is 3 years of bar prep.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2685889&forum_id=2#26410246)



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Date: September 27th, 2014 6:08 PM
Author: Sexy Insecure Plaza

I'm 99% sure I do not want to be a lawyer. There are a few policy areas I'm interested in that perhaps I'd have a better understanding of with a legal education, but you know what? I don't need a JD to learn more about them or understand the legal issues at play -- I can learn on my own, or if I am SO desperate to learn about them in a classroom setting, I can take the one or two LS classes that best deal with those issues by cross-registering/auditing while in B-school (if it REALLY means that much to me).

And as I think more and reread my original post, there's nothing to be gained from a JD in terms of enjoyment, usefulness and practicality that can't be gained from B-school (which I would enjoy more and which I would find more useful anyway -- since a B school curriculum and network is what I'm actually interested in).

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2685889&forum_id=2#26410356)



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Date: September 27th, 2014 7:10 PM
Author: Chest-beating mewling university

"I'm 99% sure I do not want to be a lawyer."

So then don't go to law school. As for the rest, yeah, if you want a basic understanding of the legal system then a few related classes will get you there.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2685889&forum_id=2#26410791)



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Date: September 27th, 2014 6:09 PM
Author: Learning Disabled Brunch

this isn't unique to law school. lol at not enjoying friends

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2685889&forum_id=2#26410367)



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Date: September 27th, 2014 7:11 PM
Author: Chest-beating mewling university

Compare to undergrad where people change major 3 times because they come in unsure of what they want to do with their lives and meet people just to chill because students are normal human beings and not superstriver units all competing with one another for a top grade and a fucking spot on law review.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2685889&forum_id=2#26410798)



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Date: September 27th, 2014 6:08 PM
Author: Scarlet Goal In Life

The jd/mba is worthless. People who have it don't practice and could have gotten their job with just the MBA. Having a job and building skills and a network in your early 20's is so much more valuable and rewarding than wasting your time in law school with a bunch of poli sci shitheads.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2685889&forum_id=2#26410352)



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Date: September 27th, 2014 6:11 PM
Author: Sexy Insecure Plaza

I'm starting to figure that out. I was a UG poli-sci shithead (thankfully, with a marginally more useful second major), and there is just no reason that I would want to be with those types again...all hot air, no skills or talent or creativity, and usually, not that much intelligence. Lots of navel-gazing, slightly-to-the-right-of-the-bell-curve types with a penchant for "analyzing" and "criticizing" things that they don't know that much about, writing with too many words, rarely adding value in the classroom or elsewhere, and never really creating anything novel and interesting in the world (especially not anything profitable).

I should just focus on building my career and practical skills in the short and medium term, with an eye on B school in the future. Maybe I'll start exploring the GMAT.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2685889&forum_id=2#26410384)



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Date: November 1st, 2016 10:04 AM
Author: Impressive Property

explore the GMAT!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2685889&forum_id=2#31774082)



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Date: September 27th, 2014 6:20 PM
Author: Federal Self-centered Nursing Home

yes because being a biglaw associate sucks (it really does) but i hope it will pan out in the end with a in house gig that will either be desirable itself or allow me to transition to a biz role.

if that doesn't happen before i get pushed out, i believe i could find some smaller biglaw gig in a secondary market as a backup because i'm a pretty standard-issue M&A associate that could plug and play.

in the meantime, i have lived in MFH mostly without roommates and saved a lot of dough.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2685889&forum_id=2#26410469)



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Date: September 27th, 2014 7:30 PM
Author: Sexy Insecure Plaza



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2685889&forum_id=2#26410887)



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Date: September 28th, 2014 2:14 PM
Author: burgundy provocative market

Law school itself was a vacation.

Practice of law itself is hellish.

If I could do life over again, I would have gone into finance straight out of college.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2685889&forum_id=2#26414760)



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Date: November 22nd, 2016 9:12 PM
Author: Lavender gas station



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2685889&forum_id=2#31972868)



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Date: September 29th, 2014 6:58 PM
Author: Razzmatazz space

Yes.

I had a 3.1 from a mediocre state school and a major in political science. T10 --> V10. Have the full debt burden of law grads but i'm still probably better overall financially and, in some strange way, i feel satisfied in what i achieved.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2685889&forum_id=2#26423132)



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Date: September 29th, 2014 8:08 PM
Author: Pearl racy pisswyrm goyim

how did you cop? (assuming 170 + lsat or urm)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2685889&forum_id=2#26423613)



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Date: September 29th, 2014 11:47 PM
Author: Concupiscible maroon stage

Viewing it solely as an academic expierience, I would rank it significantly lower than UG. Perhaps 25% of the classes I took were interesting or challenging in a satisfying way. I did fairly well on exams but felt like I got very little out of most of the classes. Often the class experience felt like a tedious high school exercise, usually because the underlying material just wasn't sufficiently thought provoking or challenging to warrant in class discussion. Skimming a few volumes of a flagship joirnal will give you a sense of what to expect from law school from an intellectual standpoint: mostly obvious observations and bullshit, but there are a few bright spots here and there.

That said, definitely worth it for me. At this point, a good 40% of my work is really satisfying and quite intellectual. Great to get paid a living wage to think.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2685889&forum_id=2#26425478)



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Date: September 29th, 2014 11:50 PM
Author: Dead bawdyhouse

Undergrad was a good experience. Law school was just kind of a waste of time. You can probably find something better to do.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2685889&forum_id=2#26425505)



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Date: November 1st, 2016 10:05 AM
Author: Histrionic Buff Library

Law school was three of the best years of my life and i made friends i will have for life.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2685889&forum_id=2#31774088)



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Date: November 1st, 2016 11:05 AM
Author: Irradiated high-end preventive strike

Disn't you see the SERIOUS tag, you faggot?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2685889&forum_id=2#31774457)



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Date: November 1st, 2016 2:53 PM
Author: Histrionic Buff Library

i am serious. i generally woke up around 9, worked out two hours a day, went out three nights a week, played 2-3 rounds of golf a week, and had fun. never really let classes get to me, got a job that quintupled my pre-LS salary. organic wife i met in HS supported me.

now i'm a depressed overweight norwood 2. it all comes full circle. law school is pretty much the last freedom you have before GC shreds you to bits.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2685889&forum_id=2#31776433)



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Date: November 2nd, 2016 12:13 AM
Author: Vibrant bossy crackhouse mother

I feel bad for you, son.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2685889&forum_id=2#31780947)



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Date: November 1st, 2016 10:27 AM
Author: Contagious Splenetic Ticket Booth Circlehead

My life was destroyed

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2685889&forum_id=2#31774192)



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Date: November 1st, 2016 10:29 AM
Author: Henna station

Destroyed my life. Still clawing out of the mess it created. Not worth it.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2685889&forum_id=2#31774204)



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Date: November 1st, 2016 10:51 AM
Author: Crimson exhilarant chapel

With zero loans, I can say that it was well worth it. I like my practice and being a lawyer has allowed me to live a good life (I can't attribute any problems in my life to being a lawyer). I've got a good practice and I am generally pleased with my professional life.

1L year was a hot mess but was really fun. 2L year was tough because I went through bad break up with a girl that I loved and spent most of my time working at a firm and studying in school. 3L year was one of the worst years of my life, it felt like being in prison - bored, wanting to go back home to South Carolina, just marking time. By 3L year, I was sick of being broke, sick of going to make-work classes, the novelty of law school had worn off, and I felt pathetic being in my mid-20's and having to really worry about having enough money in my bank account to cover a bar tab. I had no intention of staying where my law school was (Philly), so I was not putting down any roots, and I was aware that I was probably not going to keep up with a lot of my friends in LS, so it was just kind of lonely & miserable. For me, my 3L year, I was drinking a lot, but not partying, which made a depressing situation even worse. I hated 3L year.

Also, first few years after law school were stressful but fun- much better than law school. After about 4/5 years of practice, life became very fun.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2685889&forum_id=2#31774353)



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Date: November 1st, 2016 11:05 AM
Author: bearded chad orchestra pit

subtle Temple brag

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2685889&forum_id=2#31774449)



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Date: November 1st, 2016 2:40 PM
Author: chartreuse coiffed sanctuary



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2685889&forum_id=2#31776312)



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Date: November 1st, 2016 11:05 AM
Author: slimy police squad wrinkle

"it felt like being in prison - bored, wanting to go back home to South Carolina, just marking time."

I'm pretty sure South Carolina IS FUCKING PRISON

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2685889&forum_id=2#31774456)



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Date: November 1st, 2016 11:40 AM
Author: Crimson exhilarant chapel

No, actually.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2685889&forum_id=2#31774730)



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Date: November 1st, 2016 10:58 AM
Author: soul-stirring dragon national

with nearly $300K in student loan debt and a mediocre job making the same as what i would've made had i not gone to law school, combined with a strong dislike and poor skills match for actually being a lawyer, no, it was a terrible idea, possibly the worst of my life.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2685889&forum_id=2#31774402)



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Date: November 1st, 2016 11:08 AM
Author: burgundy provocative market

Gov or nonprofit?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2685889&forum_id=2#31774485)



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Date: November 1st, 2016 2:53 PM
Author: soul-stirring dragon national

nope

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2685889&forum_id=2#31776438)



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Date: November 1st, 2016 3:01 PM
Author: burgundy provocative market

Wtf flame?

U can never pay those loans off then bro...and will be tax bombed

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2685889&forum_id=2#31776510)



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Date: November 1st, 2016 3:04 PM
Author: soul-stirring dragon national

i know. fuck me, right?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2685889&forum_id=2#31776536)



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Date: November 1st, 2016 11:22 AM
Author: Diverse water buffalo main people



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2685889&forum_id=2#31774604)



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Date: November 1st, 2016 11:43 AM
Author: Crusty Hissy Fit Dysfunction

Have 600,000 reasons it was worth it but it still sucks and if I had known what I was getting myself into then maybe I wldnt go

But gawd damn I got lucky, I may become a millionaire from this BS and not work hard for rest of life just goin to beach and ddrinking fresh juice so I cant complain

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2685889&forum_id=2#31774745)



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Date: November 1st, 2016 3:00 PM
Author: burgundy provocative market

Just do forsake family and friends and you too can drink juicejuicejuice for life in thailand

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2685889&forum_id=2#31776502)



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Date: November 1st, 2016 3:15 PM
Author: Crusty Hissy Fit Dysfunction

ill settle down with some subhuman AZNgirl eventually, so i dont see whats wrong with juice on beach in SEASIA

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2685889&forum_id=2#31776639)



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Date: November 1st, 2016 10:05 PM
Author: burgundy provocative market

I thought u hated azns....ljl

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2685889&forum_id=2#31780000)



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Date: November 2nd, 2016 8:17 AM
Author: cerebral fishy mexican

That was going to happen to TT regardless

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2685889&forum_id=2#31782159)



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Date: November 1st, 2016 3:14 PM
Author: Impressive Property



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2685889&forum_id=2#31776626)



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Date: November 1st, 2016 3:04 PM
Author: Cocky hall regret

Meh. Law school was just more school.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2685889&forum_id=2#31776539)



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Date: November 1st, 2016 3:14 PM
Author: Very tactful abode travel guidebook

I hated it and would not do it again.

Most law students have horrible personalities. Many law professors are the same.

I was one of those flame joint degree students. Spending time with the people in my other program and taking classes with those profs is probably the only reason I made it through.

Enjoy my work now, though. So there's that.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2685889&forum_id=2#31776632)



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Date: November 1st, 2016 3:19 PM
Author: Impressive Property



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2685889&forum_id=2#31776672)



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Date: November 1st, 2016 9:56 PM
Author: sienna sick pit

It was pretty good. Basically a 3-year vacation from work. Mainly enjoyed it because of the amount of free time I had rather than anything in particular about the law school experience itself.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2685889&forum_id=2#31779942)



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Date: November 1st, 2016 11:36 PM
Author: burgundy provocative market

CR

School is 180

I bet med school is 180 compared to working GC BIGLAW FLAME

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2685889&forum_id=2#31780681)



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Date: November 1st, 2016 10:03 PM
Author: exciting greedy mood

No. it has essentially ruined my life

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2685889&forum_id=2#31779987)



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Date: November 2nd, 2016 8:16 AM
Author: cerebral fishy mexican

OP was tl;dr

But from a purely financial perspective it was the best decision I've ever made. I had a full tuition scholarship and have done biglaw for

8 years. My pre law school career paid just south of 100k and likely would've capped out at 150 or so.

I still don't encourage people to go to law school though

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2685889&forum_id=2#31782152)



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Date: November 20th, 2016 11:31 PM
Author: Impressive Property

why? im in a similar prelaw career, hate it. everything about it

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2685889&forum_id=2#31959047)



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Date: November 20th, 2016 11:44 PM
Author: unhinged clown parlor

Paid sticker and took 4 years of biglaw to pay off debt. Ive lost all my mojo and ambition. Inhouse now and still pretty miserable knowing that ill never be able to spontaneously drop everything and shroom on the streets of Denmark without lifepwning my faggot resume

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2685889&forum_id=2#31959149)



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Date: November 20th, 2016 11:50 PM
Author: Impressive Property

Would you rather be working A fairly dead end project management job making 75k at 27 and hoping to max out one day at 130k living in tttt DC?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2685889&forum_id=2#31959205)