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Swashbuckling Brindle Pit
  10/04/14
Only an honorary one from a school that tried to recruit her...
plum market
  10/04/14
No.
Outnumbered heady set
  10/04/14
why do posters say she went to NU night skewl?
Swashbuckling Brindle Pit
  10/04/14
have you considered that NU has other schools besides law, t...
beta shimmering crackhouse chad
  10/04/14
why are u outing her education idiot
Swashbuckling Brindle Pit
  10/04/14
Undergrad.
Hyperactive amethyst menage
  10/04/14
STFU doobs
very tactful demanding stage nibblets
  10/04/14
That would be a resounding, no. She did not invest $300,000...
godawful razzle-dazzle theater
  10/04/14
that's what makes her smarter than the box, your honor
Swashbuckling Brindle Pit
  10/04/14
Well, this is a law board.
godawful razzle-dazzle theater
  10/04/14
(it is 2004)
Swashbuckling Brindle Pit
  10/04/14
Julia has no, or little rather, board cred. Here's a girl w...
godawful razzle-dazzle theater
  10/04/14
I have a job making six figures, where I give orders rather ...
Contagious Misunderstood Ape Area
  10/04/14
One things for sure. You are not giving any orders to lawye...
godawful razzle-dazzle theater
  10/04/14
Who said I was? My simple point is that I'm not the one get...
Contagious Misunderstood Ape Area
  10/04/14
You didn't say who exactly receives orders from you. I was ...
godawful razzle-dazzle theater
  10/04/14
That's irrelevant. What IS relevant is that I'm not the one ...
Contagious Misunderstood Ape Area
  10/04/14
"I have a job making hundreds of thousands of dollars&q...
Swashbuckling Brindle Pit
  10/04/14
What? You don't think I make six figures?
Contagious Misunderstood Ape Area
  10/04/14
I do believe that. But it's your tone that I find insufferab...
Swashbuckling Brindle Pit
  10/04/14
I find the tone of people constantly claiming I'm lying insu...
Contagious Misunderstood Ape Area
  10/04/14
They probably are trolling you so that they can get under yo...
Swashbuckling Brindle Pit
  10/04/14
Ignore every Julia thread ever made? If you don't refute th...
Contagious Misunderstood Ape Area
  10/04/14
And why do you care that certain posters don't believe you m...
Swashbuckling Brindle Pit
  10/04/14
I hang out here for the same reasons anyone else - including...
Contagious Misunderstood Ape Area
  10/04/14
Because they are male and you are female.
Swashbuckling Brindle Pit
  10/04/14
Nutella is male?
Contagious Misunderstood Ape Area
  10/04/14
she doesn't post as much as you and she doesn't respond to m...
Swashbuckling Brindle Pit
  10/04/14
Your self satisfaction is really off putting. I have met lo...
Disrespectful Confused Halford Wrinkle
  10/04/14
My purpose ITT is to respond to the suggestion that not goin...
Contagious Misunderstood Ape Area
  10/04/14
Lol. Nobody thinks that law school is a good idea. But your...
Disrespectful Confused Halford Wrinkle
  10/04/14
Reread my posts .
Contagious Misunderstood Ape Area
  10/04/14
You probably earn slightly less than what a 1st year does, b...
insane quadroon azn
  10/04/14
Here is my point: I will make about 250-300k next year if my...
Contagious Misunderstood Ape Area
  10/04/14
i doubt you ever had any serious chance of going to a "...
dark galvanic son of senegal
  10/04/14
You are wildly overstating the worst aspects of biglaw to ma...
insane quadroon azn
  10/04/14
what she does isn't even cognizable as a job/work to anyone ...
dark galvanic son of senegal
  10/04/14
didnt earl say he is a biglawyer?
Swashbuckling Brindle Pit
  10/04/14
He is not but his salary is approaching his year level had h...
insane quadroon azn
  10/04/14
I feel the same way. Law is a grind and the salaries are the...
insane quadroon azn
  10/04/14
You've certainly done very well for yourself but the constan...
gold misanthropic lay
  10/04/14
julia is always advocating MBA over law school. its like adv...
Fantasy-prone Talking Step-uncle's House Reading Party
  10/04/14
MBAs PWN JDs at nearly every level. I'd rather a Harvard ...
Contagious Misunderstood Ape Area
  10/04/14
I'd definitely take a Thunderbird MBA over a Hofstra JD, or ...
Magical wonderful jap fat ankles
  10/04/14
HINT: they're both scams
Fantasy-prone Talking Step-uncle's House Reading Party
  10/04/14
lol
fiercely-loyal rigor
  09/17/17
A TTT MBA is probably even more worthless than a TTT JD.
Hyperactive amethyst menage
  10/04/14
A top MBA isn't about the education
bateful spot
  10/04/14
I thought the original Julia went to Berkeley for law school...
Embarrassed to the bone multi-colored headpube
  10/04/14
you're thinking of ruskie. she's the russian girl who went ...
jet voyeur business firm
  10/04/14
LOL Jesus Christ this board
irradiated stag film ceo
  10/04/14
lol nice summary
dark galvanic son of senegal
  10/04/14
lol that was the florida chick--what was her moniker?
tan stage pistol
  10/04/14
...
Sienna organic girlfriend sanctuary
  08/15/17
it's on her bucket list!
Low-t Shrine Genital Piercing
  09/17/17
no but J is on Deez nuts
big office
  09/17/17
Julia recebtly enrolled in the Temple Law School evening pro...
at-the-ready bonkers factory reset button
  09/17/17
Very Julia-like. She's a big fan of John Chaney
Fluffy Sandwich Elastic Band
  09/17/17


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Date: October 4th, 2014 3:03 PM
Author: Swashbuckling Brindle Pit



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2691735&forum_id=2#26455678)



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Date: October 4th, 2014 5:02 PM
Author: plum market

Only an honorary one from a school that tried to recruit her but she turned down twice.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2691735&forum_id=2#26456303)



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Date: October 4th, 2014 3:25 PM
Author: Outnumbered heady set

No.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2691735&forum_id=2#26455845)



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Date: October 4th, 2014 3:28 PM
Author: Swashbuckling Brindle Pit

why do posters say she went to NU night skewl?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2691735&forum_id=2#26455864)



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Date: October 4th, 2014 3:34 PM
Author: beta shimmering crackhouse chad

have you considered that NU has other schools besides law, tedcruz? she went to biz school or something

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2691735&forum_id=2#26455901)



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Date: October 4th, 2014 3:40 PM
Author: Swashbuckling Brindle Pit

why are u outing her education idiot

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2691735&forum_id=2#26455926)



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Date: October 4th, 2014 3:38 PM
Author: Hyperactive amethyst menage

Undergrad.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2691735&forum_id=2#26455920)



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Date: October 4th, 2014 3:25 PM
Author: very tactful demanding stage nibblets

STFU doobs

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2691735&forum_id=2#26455849)



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Date: October 4th, 2014 3:37 PM
Author: godawful razzle-dazzle theater

That would be a resounding, no. She did not invest $300,000 to receive a legal education.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2691735&forum_id=2#26455910)



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Date: October 4th, 2014 3:38 PM
Author: Swashbuckling Brindle Pit

that's what makes her smarter than the box, your honor



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2691735&forum_id=2#26455916)



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Date: October 4th, 2014 3:41 PM
Author: godawful razzle-dazzle theater

Well, this is a law board.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2691735&forum_id=2#26455932)



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Date: October 4th, 2014 3:42 PM
Author: Swashbuckling Brindle Pit

(it is 2004)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2691735&forum_id=2#26455936)



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Date: October 4th, 2014 3:46 PM
Author: godawful razzle-dazzle theater

Julia has no, or little rather, board cred. Here's a girl who claimed to take the LSAT, claimed to have gotten a 169, claimed to have applied to law school, claimed to have been accepted to Stern, and yet never even went to law school. That's just a DING all around bro

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2691735&forum_id=2#26455950)



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Date: October 4th, 2014 4:36 PM
Author: Contagious Misunderstood Ape Area

I have a job making six figures, where I give orders rather than take them, and where there is a non-zero chance of me getting further promotions.

Given what this board says about law school: That biglaw is hard to get, and worse, soul crushing; where you get screamed at by seniors and partners for misplaced commas; that the earnings of biglawyers are similar to mine; and that the only way to make more is the even rarer possibility of becoming partner -- I'd say I did well in not going to law school.

Also, I did not score a 169.



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2691735&forum_id=2#26456148)



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Date: October 4th, 2014 4:40 PM
Author: godawful razzle-dazzle theater

One things for sure. You are not giving any orders to lawyers, or anyone with a JD for that matter. Good for you on your job otherwise.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2691735&forum_id=2#26456168)



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Date: October 4th, 2014 4:42 PM
Author: Contagious Misunderstood Ape Area

Who said I was?

My simple point is that I'm not the one getting screamed at for minor details at work, unlike lawyers.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2691735&forum_id=2#26456187)



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Date: October 4th, 2014 4:45 PM
Author: godawful razzle-dazzle theater

You didn't say who exactly receives orders from you. I was just clarifying the point. You can move along now.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2691735&forum_id=2#26456208)



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Date: October 4th, 2014 4:47 PM
Author: Contagious Misunderstood Ape Area

That's irrelevant. What IS relevant is that I'm not the one afraid of getting screamed at for minor things.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2691735&forum_id=2#26456213)



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Date: October 4th, 2014 4:40 PM
Author: Swashbuckling Brindle Pit

"I have a job making hundreds of thousands of dollars"

I've always been an aficionado of yours, Julia, and I've never understood why posters say you have a mentall illness; but this post just proves their point.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2691735&forum_id=2#26456170)



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Date: October 4th, 2014 4:40 PM
Author: Contagious Misunderstood Ape Area

What? You don't think I make six figures?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2691735&forum_id=2#26456174)



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Date: October 4th, 2014 4:41 PM
Author: Swashbuckling Brindle Pit

I do believe that. But it's your tone that I find insufferable.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2691735&forum_id=2#26456183)



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Date: October 4th, 2014 4:43 PM
Author: Contagious Misunderstood Ape Area

I find the tone of people constantly claiming I'm lying insufferable. Pardon me if I respond in kind.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2691735&forum_id=2#26456197)



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Date: October 4th, 2014 4:48 PM
Author: Swashbuckling Brindle Pit

They probably are trolling you so that they can get under your skin. But if you really make as much as you claim, then why waste your time getting mad over their constant attacks against you.

But you do get mad, despite earning the amount you claim. That's what makes you insufferable. Like an Elite Athlete getting mad because critics thinks he sucks. Said Elite Athlete would simply ignore them.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2691735&forum_id=2#26456215)



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Date: October 4th, 2014 4:51 PM
Author: Contagious Misunderstood Ape Area

Ignore every Julia thread ever made? If you don't refute their shit, it becomes board lore and memes and assumed to be fact.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2691735&forum_id=2#26456241)



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Date: October 4th, 2014 4:55 PM
Author: Swashbuckling Brindle Pit

And why do you care that certain posters don't believe you make over 100k? If I were making that much money, I wouldn't even post on this board. I'd be living IRL. Why are you here? Why do you keep coming back, despite professional and financial success? (And I assume sexual success too).

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2691735&forum_id=2#26456264)



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Date: October 4th, 2014 4:57 PM
Author: Contagious Misunderstood Ape Area

I hang out here for the same reasons anyone else - including big lawyers making $$$ do. Lots of people here make more than I- why don't you question them?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2691735&forum_id=2#26456276)



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Date: October 4th, 2014 5:00 PM
Author: Swashbuckling Brindle Pit

Because they are male and you are female.



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2691735&forum_id=2#26456295)



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Date: October 4th, 2014 5:01 PM
Author: Contagious Misunderstood Ape Area

Nutella is male?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2691735&forum_id=2#26456302)



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Date: October 4th, 2014 5:04 PM
Author: Swashbuckling Brindle Pit

she doesn't post as much as you and she doesn't respond to most criticism about her.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2691735&forum_id=2#26456307)



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Date: October 4th, 2014 4:58 PM
Author: Disrespectful Confused Halford Wrinkle

Your self satisfaction is really off putting. I have met lots of people like you - I bet your first reaction to hearing of anyone else's accomplishments is to remind yourself that you make six figures and boss people around.

Most big lawyers are not elite. They will probably have fine lives. You are not elite. Your life will also be perfectly pleasant and productive. HTH.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2691735&forum_id=2#26456283)



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Date: October 4th, 2014 5:00 PM
Author: Contagious Misunderstood Ape Area

My purpose ITT is to respond to the suggestion that not going to LS was a bad idea. It was not. My outcome was better than if I had gone to LS

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2691735&forum_id=2#26456297)



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Date: October 4th, 2014 5:05 PM
Author: Disrespectful Confused Halford Wrinkle

Lol. Nobody thinks that law school is a good idea. But your initial impulse is to say that you're richer, better off, have more power than lawyers. Which may or may not be true. Either way, its unseemly and reeks of insecurity.

BTW you should read some of the pysch work on system/self justification. I think you would find it illuminating.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2691735&forum_id=2#26456316)



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Date: October 4th, 2014 5:25 PM
Author: Contagious Misunderstood Ape Area

Reread my posts .

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2691735&forum_id=2#26456393)



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Date: October 4th, 2014 5:12 PM
Author: insane quadroon azn

You probably earn slightly less than what a 1st year does, but otherwise credited. Biglaw sucks. That being said, about 15-20% of new the lawyers in NYC at least start boutiques or above-market firms, so they also out-earn you. Then there is the huge number of successful shitlaw people of all stripes. Many DUI guys, estate and trust lawyers, the torts lords, etc, make a lot more than you ever will. Law is crazily stratified and you make more than the majority of young lawyers, but at the comparable levels of success, most lawyers make more than you and have much higher ceilings. On a board full of biglawyers you keep attempting to boast that you make about as much as the first rung of the ladder for us.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2691735&forum_id=2#26456338)



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Date: October 4th, 2014 5:25 PM
Author: Contagious Misunderstood Ape Area

Here is my point: I will make about 250-300k next year if my performance is good. I do not get screamed at it stress over commas. The likelihood if me achieving this outcome by going to law school is astonishingly small.therefore, avoiding law school was Orin a very good choice for me, since few get big law, big law sucks, and the chances if becoming partner are minute

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2691735&forum_id=2#26456389)



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Date: October 4th, 2014 5:27 PM
Author: dark galvanic son of senegal

i doubt you ever had any serious chance of going to a "good" law school, but it is true that even if you're smart and talented, law isn't a very credited path

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2691735&forum_id=2#26456405)



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Date: October 4th, 2014 5:30 PM
Author: insane quadroon azn

You are wildly overstating the worst aspects of biglaw to make yourself feel superior to the lawyers, because you assume they are the ones that criticize you the most on XO. Many non-equity roles are over $300K total comp. Earl makes around $250K all-in although he's wisely shy about saying so, and he's a young lawyer very early in his career. Even shitlaw steve clears $300K most years, and that's in no way unusual for someone with more than a decade of private practice experience. I agree that avoiding law school was a smart choice because you likely would not have been able to succeed in the more lucrative areas of law with your skillset and abilities. You are where you should be. But you must understand, you sound money-obsessed and resentful when you constantly compare your salary to lawyers. I have seen you doing this in many dozens of threads. It seems reflexive, possibly compulsive.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2691735&forum_id=2#26456414)



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Date: October 4th, 2014 5:32 PM
Author: dark galvanic son of senegal

what she does isn't even cognizable as a job/work to anyone who rises above document review in biglaw. but that's a plus. biglaw really does suck shit. even midlaw and shitlaw are pretty shitty, even when lucrative--why do you think e.g. earl and shitlaw steve complain so much about it

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2691735&forum_id=2#26456419)



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Date: October 4th, 2014 5:37 PM
Author: Swashbuckling Brindle Pit

didnt earl say he is a biglawyer?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2691735&forum_id=2#26456431)



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Date: October 4th, 2014 5:45 PM
Author: insane quadroon azn

He is not but his salary is approaching his year level had he remained in biglaw.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2691735&forum_id=2#26456465)



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Date: October 4th, 2014 5:44 PM
Author: insane quadroon azn

I feel the same way. Law is a grind and the salaries are the only thing that justify it in most cases. I just find Julia's endless compulsive discussion of her salary and comparison to law salaries very strange. She mentions it over and over, in thread after thread, even shoehorning it in for no reason. Ordinarily I wouldn't bother to comment, but when you see something so often and for disparate reasons, eventually curiosity overwhelms. Especially when she has also said in the past that she doesn't care much about money, does not like corporate life, and all these other things meant to tell she's a down to earth person who doesn't obsess about the game. But then in every thread she talks about salary relative to lawyers. It's comes across as an obsession.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2691735&forum_id=2#26456459)



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Date: October 4th, 2014 10:02 PM
Author: gold misanthropic lay

You've certainly done very well for yourself but the constant comparisons you make with lawyer salaries and particularly biglaw salaries, are misconceived.

What you don't realize is that anyone with a few years experience in biglaw, or even good midlaw or good company inhouse, will be earning at least that much. There are probably dozens of lawyer posters who earn as much as you do and many of them won't be as old as you. The difference is that they don't post their salaries on the board.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2691735&forum_id=2#26457803)



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Date: October 4th, 2014 4:25 PM
Author: Fantasy-prone Talking Step-uncle's House Reading Party

julia is always advocating MBA over law school. its like advocating for a noose rather than an overdose.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2691735&forum_id=2#26456106)



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Date: October 4th, 2014 4:44 PM
Author: Contagious Misunderstood Ape Area

MBAs PWN JDs at nearly every level.

I'd rather a Harvard MBA than a Yale JD; a UCLA MBA over a UCLA JD; a TTT MBA over a TTT JD, and so forth.

The MBA is cheaper, shorter in duration, and gives you more career flexibility.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2691735&forum_id=2#26456203)



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Date: October 4th, 2014 4:49 PM
Author: Magical wonderful jap fat ankles

I'd definitely take a Thunderbird MBA over a Hofstra JD, or whatever the 90th ranked LS is

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2691735&forum_id=2#26456219)



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Date: October 4th, 2014 4:50 PM
Author: Fantasy-prone Talking Step-uncle's House Reading Party

HINT: they're both scams

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2691735&forum_id=2#26456229)



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Date: September 17th, 2017 7:16 PM
Author: fiercely-loyal rigor

lol

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2691735&forum_id=2#34231548)



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Date: October 4th, 2014 5:22 PM
Author: Hyperactive amethyst menage

A TTT MBA is probably even more worthless than a TTT JD.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2691735&forum_id=2#26456378)



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Date: October 4th, 2014 5:27 PM
Author: bateful spot

A top MBA isn't about the education

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2691735&forum_id=2#26456409)



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Date: October 4th, 2014 4:45 PM
Author: Embarrassed to the bone multi-colored headpube

I thought the original Julia went to Berkeley for law school?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2691735&forum_id=2#26456205)



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Date: October 4th, 2014 4:52 PM
Author: jet voyeur business firm

you're thinking of ruskie. she's the russian girl who went to tennessee for undergrad and is prudish but still loves black dick. after a stint in london biglaw she lives in central florida working immigration law.

julia = arab + colombian girl most famous for saying "i only thought i was eligible for voluptuous vixens" (a video of her trying out for playboy exists and has been seen by many old school poasters.) now she works in some middle management role after t-bird mba and produces spam blogs on the side.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2691735&forum_id=2#26456244)



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Date: October 4th, 2014 4:59 PM
Author: irradiated stag film ceo

LOL Jesus Christ this board

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2691735&forum_id=2#26456289)



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Date: October 4th, 2014 5:29 PM
Author: dark galvanic son of senegal

lol nice summary

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2691735&forum_id=2#26456412)



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Date: October 4th, 2014 4:52 PM
Author: tan stage pistol

lol that was the florida chick--what was her moniker?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2691735&forum_id=2#26456245)



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Date: August 15th, 2017 9:47 PM
Author: Sienna organic girlfriend sanctuary



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2691735&forum_id=2#33998177)



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Date: September 17th, 2017 7:17 PM
Author: Low-t Shrine Genital Piercing

it's on her bucket list!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2691735&forum_id=2#34231551)



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Date: September 17th, 2017 7:27 PM
Author: big office

no but J is on Deez nuts

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2691735&forum_id=2#34231596)



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Date: September 17th, 2017 7:37 PM
Author: at-the-ready bonkers factory reset button

Julia recebtly enrolled in the Temple Law School evening program. She is a law student though not yet a doctor of laws.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2691735&forum_id=2#34231639)



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Date: September 17th, 2017 9:17 PM
Author: Fluffy Sandwich Elastic Band

Very Julia-like. She's a big fan of John Chaney

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2691735&forum_id=2#34232135)