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Maroon contagious pisswyrm
  10/09/14
what is your background? how much do you make?
smoky set
  10/09/14
Physics PhD, a little short of 10 years at a big law firm. ...
Maroon contagious pisswyrm
  10/10/14
transactional or litigation?
smoky set
  10/10/14
Prosecution and transactional
Maroon contagious pisswyrm
  10/10/14
Why so low?? I've seen in house ads for 250k w pros backgrou...
Ultramarine supple business firm
  10/10/14
Those jobs are at much more established companies where ther...
Maroon contagious pisswyrm
  10/10/14
did u file ur 83(b)? wats ur vesting like?
Mustard coiffed coldplay fan
  10/10/14
How much will you be worth after the startup is sold to GOOG...
Ultramarine supple business firm
  10/10/14
Thoughts on Alice?
hyperactive grizzly personal credit line
  10/10/14
So, I think that it was a mistake to conflate novelty/obviou...
Maroon contagious pisswyrm
  10/10/14
where will rajon rondo play this season. thoughts on marcus ...
trip shimmering dilemma
  10/10/14
I would guess that he is taking his connect 4 talents to Sac...
Maroon contagious pisswyrm
  10/10/14
like the Silicon Valley tool? Also, do you watch/like Sil...
Cyan cerebral legend wagecucks
  10/10/14
solid analysis
Unhinged principal's office
  10/11/14
agreed
Beady-eyed Saffron Twinkling Uncleanness Pozpig
  10/21/14
Is trying to make sense of SCOTUS decision on 101 like tryin...
Indigo stirring indirect expression site
  10/21/14
Few years in patent pros., passed patent bar, T10. How d...
bronze brethren
  10/10/14
Of those choices I would say (a). If you could do (a) and m...
Maroon contagious pisswyrm
  10/21/14
I'm back!
Maroon contagious pisswyrm
  10/21/14
?
Maroon contagious pisswyrm
  10/21/14
8th year associate - EE degree. mostly litigation. what wo...
self-centered institution
  10/21/14
Are they gonna make you partner? You should have a sense by...
Maroon contagious pisswyrm
  10/21/14
id put my chances at 15%
self-centered institution
  10/22/14
Start interviewing
Maroon contagious pisswyrm
  10/22/14
other option is to kick around a few more years (probs like ...
self-centered institution
  10/22/14
how does it feel to know your UG degree meant infinitely mor...
vivacious wrinkle crackhouse
  10/21/14
do you know anyone who works inhouse at amazon/google/apple?...
Violent passionate library
  10/21/14
Yes, one of those, they work super long hours and travel a t...
Maroon contagious pisswyrm
  10/21/14
How to you manage your external firm(s) to prevent over bill...
opaque partner sanctuary
  10/21/14
They constantly overbill, then I complain because I actually...
Maroon contagious pisswyrm
  10/21/14
Can't sleep, ask away.
Maroon contagious pisswyrm
  10/21/14
what's prime time to jump ship for ip trans? are you under e...
Razzmatazz base love of her life
  10/21/14
I think 3rd year is pretty early unless you are leaving for ...
Maroon contagious pisswyrm
  10/21/14
ty, just wondering
Razzmatazz base love of her life
  10/21/14
thoughts on Kobe article?
racy generalized bond weed whacker
  10/21/14
I have long been in the "Kobe is an asshole" camp,...
Maroon contagious pisswyrm
  10/21/14
Thoughts on television show Silicon Valley?
Cyan cerebral legend wagecucks
  10/21/14
I'm actually a big Kumail Nanjiani and TJ Miller fan from wa...
Maroon contagious pisswyrm
  10/21/14
Is law worth it for you?
Ultramarine supple business firm
  10/22/14


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Date: October 9th, 2014 11:45 PM
Author: Maroon contagious pisswyrm

Ask away.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2696271&forum_id=2#26489816)



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Date: October 9th, 2014 11:49 PM
Author: smoky set

what is your background? how much do you make?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2696271&forum_id=2#26489840)



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Date: October 10th, 2014 12:02 AM
Author: Maroon contagious pisswyrm

Physics PhD, a little short of 10 years at a big law firm. 150ish with significant stock grants.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2696271&forum_id=2#26489891)



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Date: October 10th, 2014 12:03 AM
Author: smoky set

transactional or litigation?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2696271&forum_id=2#26489894)



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Date: October 10th, 2014 12:04 AM
Author: Maroon contagious pisswyrm

Prosecution and transactional

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2696271&forum_id=2#26489897)



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Date: October 10th, 2014 11:49 AM
Author: Ultramarine supple business firm

Why so low?? I've seen in house ads for 250k w pros background with that much experience. 250 doesn't include bonus and stocks btw. Are your stock grants that much?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2696271&forum_id=2#26492214)



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Date: October 10th, 2014 12:17 PM
Author: Maroon contagious pisswyrm

Those jobs are at much more established companies where there is way less upside on the equity. I am at a legit start up. I make basically as much as the founders salary wise.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2696271&forum_id=2#26492365)



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Date: October 10th, 2014 12:33 PM
Author: Mustard coiffed coldplay fan

did u file ur 83(b)?

wats ur vesting like?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2696271&forum_id=2#26492417)



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Date: October 10th, 2014 2:07 PM
Author: Ultramarine supple business firm

How much will you be worth after the startup is sold to GOOGLE

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2696271&forum_id=2#26493118)



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Date: October 10th, 2014 12:07 PM
Author: hyperactive grizzly personal credit line

Thoughts on Alice?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2696271&forum_id=2#26492319)



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Date: October 10th, 2014 12:20 PM
Author: Maroon contagious pisswyrm

So, I think that it was a mistake to conflate novelty/obviousness with subject matter eligibility the way the court did, but I think they were trying to give lower courts a tool to knock out clearly BS software and business methods patents. But I think the pendulum will swing back if/when the courts start invalidating legit software patents (say complicated compression or image processing stuff).

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2696271&forum_id=2#26492378)



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Date: October 10th, 2014 12:21 PM
Author: trip shimmering dilemma

where will rajon rondo play this season. thoughts on marcus smart?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2696271&forum_id=2#26492380)



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Date: October 10th, 2014 12:28 PM
Author: Maroon contagious pisswyrm

I would guess that he is taking his connect 4 talents to Sacremento.

I don't really watch much college ball, so I don't know too much about Smart. But I tend to prefer bigger point guards. I know he is listed at 6'4 or whatever, but he doesn't look it on the court.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2696271&forum_id=2#26492403)



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Date: October 10th, 2014 12:46 PM
Author: Cyan cerebral legend wagecucks

like the Silicon Valley tool?

Also, do you watch/like Silicon Valley?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2696271&forum_id=2#26492458)



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Date: October 11th, 2014 8:59 PM
Author: Unhinged principal's office

solid analysis

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2696271&forum_id=2#26500610)



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Date: October 21st, 2014 5:42 PM
Author: Beady-eyed Saffron Twinkling Uncleanness Pozpig

agreed

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2696271&forum_id=2#26560819)



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Date: October 21st, 2014 11:15 PM
Author: Indigo stirring indirect expression site

Is trying to make sense of SCOTUS decision on 101 like trying to decode Led Zeppelin lyrics?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2696271&forum_id=2#26562671)



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Date: October 10th, 2014 1:40 PM
Author: bronze brethren

Few years in patent pros., passed patent bar, T10.

How do I get to where you are now. Probably decision is a) IP transactions at BIGLAW b) lit at BIGLAW c) broader range at a smaller firm. Right?

In general, I'm not really interested in pros/lit. Much rather do transactional, business side, or at least do a broader range of stuff.



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2696271&forum_id=2#26492890)



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Date: October 21st, 2014 4:49 PM
Author: Maroon contagious pisswyrm

Of those choices I would say (a). If you could do (a) and mix in some prosecution/portfolio management/opinion work that would be the best.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2696271&forum_id=2#26560514)



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Date: October 21st, 2014 4:45 PM
Author: Maroon contagious pisswyrm

I'm back!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2696271&forum_id=2#26560484)



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Date: October 21st, 2014 4:59 PM
Author: Maroon contagious pisswyrm

?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2696271&forum_id=2#26560572)



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Date: October 21st, 2014 9:09 PM
Author: self-centered institution

8th year associate - EE degree. mostly litigation. what would you do?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2696271&forum_id=2#26561691)



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Date: October 21st, 2014 11:10 PM
Author: Maroon contagious pisswyrm

Are they gonna make you partner? You should have a sense by now.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2696271&forum_id=2#26562629)



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Date: October 22nd, 2014 12:01 AM
Author: self-centered institution

id put my chances at 15%

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2696271&forum_id=2#26562962)



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Date: October 22nd, 2014 12:24 AM
Author: Maroon contagious pisswyrm

Start interviewing

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2696271&forum_id=2#26563137)



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Date: October 22nd, 2014 1:50 PM
Author: self-centered institution

other option is to kick around a few more years (probs like 2+ years post no-breakfasting before shitcan) So that gives me something like 3 - 3.5 more years at a salary in the high 2s.

Still worth interviewing now or wait for no-breakfast and shitcan?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2696271&forum_id=2#26565255)



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Date: October 21st, 2014 5:50 PM
Author: vivacious wrinkle crackhouse

how does it feel to know your UG degree meant infinitely more to your career success than any poliSci grad's law school, law school grades, clerkship, and post-law school legal work experience meant to their career success?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2696271&forum_id=2#26560858)



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Date: October 21st, 2014 9:01 PM
Author: Violent passionate library

do you know anyone who works inhouse at amazon/google/apple? if so, what is hours/comp/work environment like for these positions?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2696271&forum_id=2#26561634)



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Date: October 21st, 2014 11:12 PM
Author: Maroon contagious pisswyrm

Yes, one of those, they work super long hours and travel a ton. Comp is like senior biglaw associate level, when you take into account the full package. The main bonus is you are around more creative/interesting people than in a firm.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2696271&forum_id=2#26562647)



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Date: October 21st, 2014 9:02 PM
Author: opaque partner sanctuary

How to you manage your external firm(s) to prevent over billing?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2696271&forum_id=2#26561636)



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Date: October 21st, 2014 11:14 PM
Author: Maroon contagious pisswyrm

They constantly overbill, then I complain because I actually review the bill and know their tricks, and then they cut it. Circle of life.

Also, I wrote up very detailed outside counsel guidelines that I based on one of my former clients outside counsel rules.

I negotiated flat fee for certain stiff like IDS filings.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2696271&forum_id=2#26562665)



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Date: October 21st, 2014 11:09 PM
Author: Maroon contagious pisswyrm

Can't sleep, ask away.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2696271&forum_id=2#26562623)



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Date: October 21st, 2014 11:17 PM
Author: Razzmatazz base love of her life

what's prime time to jump ship for ip trans? are you under experienced as a 3rd year, an old maid as a 7th year, etc?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2696271&forum_id=2#26562690)



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Date: October 21st, 2014 11:20 PM
Author: Maroon contagious pisswyrm

I think 3rd year is pretty early unless you are leaving for a big company where you will receive further training. I think 6-10 years experience is more normal.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2696271&forum_id=2#26562704)



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Date: October 21st, 2014 11:43 PM
Author: Razzmatazz base love of her life

ty, just wondering

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2696271&forum_id=2#26562848)



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Date: October 21st, 2014 11:17 PM
Author: racy generalized bond weed whacker

thoughts on Kobe article?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2696271&forum_id=2#26562685)



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Date: October 21st, 2014 11:21 PM
Author: Maroon contagious pisswyrm

I have long been in the "Kobe is an asshole" camp, but I do think it is pretty weak that these sources are only having the balls to speak out now that he sucks.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2696271&forum_id=2#26562715)



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Date: October 21st, 2014 11:44 PM
Author: Cyan cerebral legend wagecucks

Thoughts on television show Silicon Valley?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2696271&forum_id=2#26562860)



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Date: October 21st, 2014 11:56 PM
Author: Maroon contagious pisswyrm

I'm actually a big Kumail Nanjiani and TJ Miller fan from way back, I always go to their shows at meltdown comics in LA when I visit. My company lis in the same building as a tech incubator, and they definitely capture some of the culture.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2696271&forum_id=2#26562925)



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Date: October 22nd, 2014 2:33 AM
Author: Ultramarine supple business firm

Is law worth it for you?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2696271&forum_id=2#26563583)