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San Francisco to pass 24% Transfer Tax on "Speculator"
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Date: October 22nd, 2014 5:12 PM Author: bright ratface space God, this place is a lib dream run amuck. I'm starting to think I should move....and I'm pretty lib for the rest of the world.
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Date: October 22nd, 2014 5:35 PM Author: swashbuckling stain boiling water ljl
god damn brother havent seen your 180 moniker in a while. do you not poast much lately? |
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Date: October 22nd, 2014 6:25 PM Author: bright ratface space I post a little....sometimes changing monikers. Just came back to this one. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2706820&forum_id=2#26566831) |
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Date: October 22nd, 2014 11:47 PM Author: turquoise odious sweet tailpipe mad-dog skullcap had been wondering the same. good choice (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2706820&forum_id=2#26569130) |
Date: October 22nd, 2014 5:38 PM Author: Mauve yarmulke property conservabro here and I see no real issue with this in concept. We have different rates for short and long term cap gains. Tax on sale price rather than on gains is questionable, though. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2706820&forum_id=2#26566555) |
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Date: October 22nd, 2014 6:26 PM Author: bright ratface space 24% tax on sale price isn't just questionable, it is insane. If it was on gains, it would be a whole different animal. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2706820&forum_id=2#26566835) |
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Date: October 22nd, 2014 6:30 PM Author: Mauve yarmulke property The concept is reasonable (excise tax). The implementation is what I'd expect out of San francisco. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2706820&forum_id=2#26566864) |
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Date: October 22nd, 2014 6:35 PM Author: bright ratface space 24% of the purchase price isn't ever reasonable. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2706820&forum_id=2#26566884) |
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Date: October 22nd, 2014 6:59 PM Author: Mauve yarmulke property I agree that it's dumb to do it based in the price rather than the gain. I said that above. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2706820&forum_id=2#26566987) |
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Date: October 22nd, 2014 6:39 PM Author: Puce cerebral mother stage are you literally dumb? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2706820&forum_id=2#26566902) |
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Date: October 22nd, 2014 6:58 PM Author: Racy Scarlet University lol wtf mentally ill LIBS LJL (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2706820&forum_id=2#26566982) |
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Date: October 22nd, 2014 11:43 PM Author: Domesticated piazza wrinkle It's not insane if their goal is to make sure no one buys to flip ever (beacuse with this you'd only ever buy to flip if you knew without a doubt you could increase house more than 25% or something like that). If there's an exemption for people who can demonstrate they lived there and have to move out of the city within five years, then I think it's a really solid piece of legislation for preventing RE speculation while not disincentivizing home purchases from legit buyers who are worried they might have to sell the house for some emergency reason. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2706820&forum_id=2#26569113) |
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Date: October 22nd, 2014 6:38 PM Author: Puce cerebral mother stage you do realize flippers are charged cap gains rates already right? what exactly is your IQ? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2706820&forum_id=2#26566900) |
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Date: October 22nd, 2014 6:58 PM Author: Mauve yarmulke property Yeah, so what. I have no real problem making that number higher for short term flips. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2706820&forum_id=2#26566985) |
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Date: October 22nd, 2014 6:44 PM Author: Orchid Arousing Son Of Senegal Jewess um flipped property is already taxed at short and long-term cap gains rates. you call yourself a conservabro and are ok with double taxation in concept? lol. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2706820&forum_id=2#26566922) |
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Date: October 22nd, 2014 6:58 PM Author: Mauve yarmulke property Not sure I follow why I should be against double taxation on an activity that has no real social value. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2706820&forum_id=2#26566981) |
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Date: October 22nd, 2014 7:13 PM Author: Racy Scarlet University Most flippers fix up dumps. There is lots of value there. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2706820&forum_id=2#26567063) |
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Date: October 22nd, 2014 7:14 PM Author: bright ratface space don't tell that to a Mission hipster lib (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2706820&forum_id=2#26567070) |
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Date: October 22nd, 2014 7:24 PM Author: Orchid Arousing Son Of Senegal Jewess 1) you are not a conservabro if you support repressive taxation, let alone double taxation
2) you're retarded if you think there's no "social value" in fixing up dumps and supporting gentrification of shitty areas. |
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Date: October 22nd, 2014 7:27 PM Author: Mauve yarmulke property Gentrification = ethnic cleansing (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2706820&forum_id=2#26567127) |
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Date: October 23rd, 2014 1:46 AM Author: swashbuckling stain boiling water you act like thats a bad thing (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2706820&forum_id=2#26569634) |
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Date: October 22nd, 2014 7:27 PM Author: Talented cruel-hearted knife so your azn family owns investment property in california? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2706820&forum_id=2#26567128) |
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Date: October 22nd, 2014 5:38 PM Author: Thriller nursing home dont new taxes require a 2/3 majority in CA to pass? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2706820&forum_id=2#26566561) |
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Date: October 22nd, 2014 6:23 PM Author: bright ratface space that is one of the many arguments against it. Can't remember the proponent's argument as to why i isn't necessary. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2706820&forum_id=2#26566822) |
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Date: October 22nd, 2014 6:42 PM Author: Insecure Mahogany Area Rigor The law seems so restrictive that it could be classified as a taking of property under the 4th ammendment (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2706820&forum_id=2#26566916) |
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Date: October 22nd, 2014 6:51 PM Author: bright ratface space yes, that is another argument I believe (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2706820&forum_id=2#26566950) |
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Date: October 22nd, 2014 7:02 PM Author: Bonkers crawly friendly grandma nibblets In NH the transfer taxes are 15 percent. For all transactions. That's basically how they avoid income taxes. It's a duck you Massachusetts tax instead. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2706820&forum_id=2#26566998) |
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Date: October 22nd, 2014 7:29 PM Author: Azure Magical Sex Offender (Julia)
The transfer tax is $15 per thousand. |
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Date: October 22nd, 2014 7:17 PM Author: well-lubricated diverse institution depressive Not sure what the problem is. Its a small, local decision. Let them do what they want. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2706820&forum_id=2#26567078) |
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Date: October 22nd, 2014 7:55 PM Author: bright ratface space I live here breh (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2706820&forum_id=2#26567295) |
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Date: October 22nd, 2014 7:57 PM Author: well-lubricated diverse institution depressive dont put your money where socialist libs can touch it. lol are u stupid? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2706820&forum_id=2#26567307) |
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Date: October 22nd, 2014 10:19 PM Author: bright ratface space problem is that, otherwise, it is an amazing city (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2706820&forum_id=2#26568393) |
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Date: October 22nd, 2014 11:47 PM Author: Domesticated piazza wrinkle you of course realize this is going to lower home prices, right? this benefits you if you want to buy (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2706820&forum_id=2#26569133) |
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Date: October 22nd, 2014 11:56 PM Author: bright ratface space I already own, so I'm fucked. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2706820&forum_id=2#26569198) |
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Date: October 22nd, 2014 11:45 PM Author: Domesticated piazza wrinkle So don't flip houses. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2706820&forum_id=2#26569129) |
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Date: October 22nd, 2014 11:54 PM Author: Razzmatazz Chad *transfers membership in LLC* (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2706820&forum_id=2#26569181) |
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Date: October 22nd, 2014 11:57 PM Author: bright ratface space nope, the libs got that covered. easy to not get caught, but if you get caught, there are penalties up the wazoo. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2706820&forum_id=2#26569204) |
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Date: October 23rd, 2014 12:07 AM Author: Razzmatazz Chad What's the language? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2706820&forum_id=2#26569263) |
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Date: October 22nd, 2014 11:59 PM Author: Outnumbered Maroon Ape (mental illness) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2706820&forum_id=2#26569224) |
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Date: October 23rd, 2014 1:45 AM Author: 180 pea-brained whorehouse deer antler My main issue is the exemption if you lived there "at least one year immediately preceding the conveyance".
What happens if I get fired from a job in SF after living in SF for a couple years, get a job elsewhere while I rent out my place in SF, and then decide to sell my house? Assume I was renting while working the new job in a different city.
The tax is insanely punitive but it also seems pretty narrowly tailored. It exempts single family units and condos, so it really only hits investment properties. It seems like it's designed to discourage companies that specialize in kicking out people under rent control (i.e. I own a complex with 10-20 units but I don't have the stomach to deal with all the ppl under rent control; a company comes in, cleans up house, and then re-sells it to yet another company).
The real issue is that rent control should be banned. |