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San Francisco to pass 24% Transfer Tax on "Speculator"
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Date: October 22nd, 2014 5:12 PM Author: Razzmatazz sooty gaping God, this place is a lib dream run amuck. I'm starting to think I should move....and I'm pretty lib for the rest of the world.
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Date: October 22nd, 2014 5:35 PM Author: Chartreuse prole ljl
god damn brother havent seen your 180 moniker in a while. do you not poast much lately? |
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Date: October 22nd, 2014 6:25 PM Author: Razzmatazz sooty gaping I post a little....sometimes changing monikers. Just came back to this one. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2706820&forum_id=2#26566831) |
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Date: October 22nd, 2014 11:47 PM Author: Cerebral shitlib coffee pot had been wondering the same. good choice (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2706820&forum_id=2#26569130) |
Date: October 22nd, 2014 5:38 PM Author: Pea-brained electric furnace principal's office conservabro here and I see no real issue with this in concept. We have different rates for short and long term cap gains. Tax on sale price rather than on gains is questionable, though. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2706820&forum_id=2#26566555) |
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Date: October 22nd, 2014 6:26 PM Author: Razzmatazz sooty gaping 24% tax on sale price isn't just questionable, it is insane. If it was on gains, it would be a whole different animal. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2706820&forum_id=2#26566835) |
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Date: October 22nd, 2014 6:30 PM Author: Pea-brained electric furnace principal's office The concept is reasonable (excise tax). The implementation is what I'd expect out of San francisco. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2706820&forum_id=2#26566864) |
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Date: October 22nd, 2014 6:35 PM Author: Razzmatazz sooty gaping 24% of the purchase price isn't ever reasonable. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2706820&forum_id=2#26566884) |
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Date: October 22nd, 2014 6:59 PM Author: Pea-brained electric furnace principal's office I agree that it's dumb to do it based in the price rather than the gain. I said that above. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2706820&forum_id=2#26566987) |
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Date: October 22nd, 2014 6:39 PM Author: Pearly associate den are you literally dumb? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2706820&forum_id=2#26566902) |
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Date: October 22nd, 2014 6:58 PM Author: appetizing sandwich lol wtf mentally ill LIBS LJL (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2706820&forum_id=2#26566982) |
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Date: October 22nd, 2014 11:43 PM Author: self-absorbed aphrodisiac station community account It's not insane if their goal is to make sure no one buys to flip ever (beacuse with this you'd only ever buy to flip if you knew without a doubt you could increase house more than 25% or something like that). If there's an exemption for people who can demonstrate they lived there and have to move out of the city within five years, then I think it's a really solid piece of legislation for preventing RE speculation while not disincentivizing home purchases from legit buyers who are worried they might have to sell the house for some emergency reason. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2706820&forum_id=2#26569113) |
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Date: October 22nd, 2014 6:38 PM Author: Pearly associate den you do realize flippers are charged cap gains rates already right? what exactly is your IQ? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2706820&forum_id=2#26566900) |
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Date: October 22nd, 2014 6:58 PM Author: Pea-brained electric furnace principal's office Yeah, so what. I have no real problem making that number higher for short term flips. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2706820&forum_id=2#26566985) |
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Date: October 22nd, 2014 6:44 PM Author: adventurous main people karate um flipped property is already taxed at short and long-term cap gains rates. you call yourself a conservabro and are ok with double taxation in concept? lol. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2706820&forum_id=2#26566922) |
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Date: October 22nd, 2014 6:58 PM Author: Pea-brained electric furnace principal's office Not sure I follow why I should be against double taxation on an activity that has no real social value. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2706820&forum_id=2#26566981) |
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Date: October 22nd, 2014 7:13 PM Author: appetizing sandwich Most flippers fix up dumps. There is lots of value there. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2706820&forum_id=2#26567063) |
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Date: October 22nd, 2014 7:14 PM Author: Razzmatazz sooty gaping don't tell that to a Mission hipster lib (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2706820&forum_id=2#26567070) |
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Date: October 22nd, 2014 7:24 PM Author: adventurous main people karate 1) you are not a conservabro if you support repressive taxation, let alone double taxation
2) you're retarded if you think there's no "social value" in fixing up dumps and supporting gentrification of shitty areas. |
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Date: October 22nd, 2014 7:27 PM Author: Pea-brained electric furnace principal's office Gentrification = ethnic cleansing (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2706820&forum_id=2#26567127) |
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Date: October 23rd, 2014 1:46 AM Author: Chartreuse prole you act like thats a bad thing (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2706820&forum_id=2#26569634) |
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Date: October 22nd, 2014 7:27 PM Author: flesh office black woman so your azn family owns investment property in california? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2706820&forum_id=2#26567128) |
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Date: October 22nd, 2014 5:38 PM Author: Orchid Arrogant Pozpig Pit dont new taxes require a 2/3 majority in CA to pass? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2706820&forum_id=2#26566561) |
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Date: October 22nd, 2014 6:23 PM Author: Razzmatazz sooty gaping that is one of the many arguments against it. Can't remember the proponent's argument as to why i isn't necessary. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2706820&forum_id=2#26566822) |
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Date: October 22nd, 2014 6:42 PM Author: diverse church The law seems so restrictive that it could be classified as a taking of property under the 4th ammendment (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2706820&forum_id=2#26566916) |
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Date: October 22nd, 2014 6:51 PM Author: Razzmatazz sooty gaping yes, that is another argument I believe (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2706820&forum_id=2#26566950) |
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Date: October 22nd, 2014 7:02 PM Author: sickened impertinent piazza In NH the transfer taxes are 15 percent. For all transactions. That's basically how they avoid income taxes. It's a duck you Massachusetts tax instead. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2706820&forum_id=2#26566998) |
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Date: October 22nd, 2014 7:29 PM Author: Magenta talking base (Julia)
The transfer tax is $15 per thousand. |
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Date: October 22nd, 2014 7:17 PM Author: apoplectic brunch Not sure what the problem is. Its a small, local decision. Let them do what they want. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2706820&forum_id=2#26567078) |
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Date: October 22nd, 2014 7:55 PM Author: Razzmatazz sooty gaping I live here breh (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2706820&forum_id=2#26567295) |
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Date: October 22nd, 2014 7:57 PM Author: apoplectic brunch dont put your money where socialist libs can touch it. lol are u stupid? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2706820&forum_id=2#26567307) |
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Date: October 22nd, 2014 10:19 PM Author: Razzmatazz sooty gaping problem is that, otherwise, it is an amazing city (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2706820&forum_id=2#26568393) |
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Date: October 22nd, 2014 11:47 PM Author: self-absorbed aphrodisiac station community account you of course realize this is going to lower home prices, right? this benefits you if you want to buy (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2706820&forum_id=2#26569133) |
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Date: October 22nd, 2014 11:56 PM Author: Razzmatazz sooty gaping I already own, so I'm fucked. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2706820&forum_id=2#26569198) |
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Date: October 22nd, 2014 11:45 PM Author: self-absorbed aphrodisiac station community account So don't flip houses. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2706820&forum_id=2#26569129) |
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Date: October 22nd, 2014 11:54 PM Author: Razzle Set *transfers membership in LLC* (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2706820&forum_id=2#26569181) |
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Date: October 22nd, 2014 11:57 PM Author: Razzmatazz sooty gaping nope, the libs got that covered. easy to not get caught, but if you get caught, there are penalties up the wazoo. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2706820&forum_id=2#26569204) |
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Date: October 23rd, 2014 12:07 AM Author: Razzle Set What's the language? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2706820&forum_id=2#26569263) |
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Date: October 22nd, 2014 11:59 PM Author: racy internal respiration whorehouse (mental illness) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2706820&forum_id=2#26569224) |
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Date: October 23rd, 2014 1:45 AM Author: Bright razzle-dazzle locus My main issue is the exemption if you lived there "at least one year immediately preceding the conveyance".
What happens if I get fired from a job in SF after living in SF for a couple years, get a job elsewhere while I rent out my place in SF, and then decide to sell my house? Assume I was renting while working the new job in a different city.
The tax is insanely punitive but it also seems pretty narrowly tailored. It exempts single family units and condos, so it really only hits investment properties. It seems like it's designed to discourage companies that specialize in kicking out people under rent control (i.e. I own a complex with 10-20 units but I don't have the stomach to deal with all the ppl under rent control; a company comes in, cleans up house, and then re-sells it to yet another company).
The real issue is that rent control should be banned. |