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Jazz aficionados: did Chet Baker have GOAT potential?

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aromatic cumskin
  10/27/14
Not really. Other guys like Clifford brown and art farmer w...
provocative lavender home
  10/27/14
TY Rate Oliver Nelson and Dexter Gordon
aromatic cumskin
  10/28/14
Oliver Nelson was a great composer/arranger but not really m...
soul-stirring police squad parlor
  10/28/14
TY brother. Rate Stolen Moments.
aromatic cumskin
  10/28/14
stolen moments is a fantastic 180 composition. I transcribed...
soul-stirring police squad parlor
  10/28/14
Not really. Miles, Clifford brown, Freddie Hubbard, lee Morg...
soul-stirring police squad parlor
  10/28/14
How about Bill Frissell?
aromatic cumskin
  10/28/14
im not really into fusion, but smart ppl like him
soul-stirring police squad parlor
  10/28/14
listening to him rn. he's better than all of them except mil...
aromatic cumskin
  07/27/23


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Date: October 27th, 2014 6:15 AM
Author: aromatic cumskin



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Date: October 27th, 2014 8:43 AM
Author: provocative lavender home

Not really. Other guys like Clifford brown and art farmer were far more technically proficient. Davis was much more innovative. Clark terry was more fun to listen to. But in the whole, baker was too vanilla, too white and too tied up in the cool west coast sound to really make a play for GOAT. While he was commercially big with white audiences due to his sound, his good looks and limited crooner range (my funny valentine) he wasn't as respected by critics because he played too safe and too "in." While a lot of other dudes in his time had drug problems, his was off the charts and crippled his playing (rotted teeth fucked his chops permanently) and ultimately killed him. Davis typically get the goat mantle because he was a super brave player, innovator and genre bending dude, but for my money, it's a toss up between Clark terry and Clifford brown.

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Date: October 28th, 2014 5:06 AM
Author: aromatic cumskin

TY

Rate Oliver Nelson and Dexter Gordon

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Date: October 28th, 2014 8:37 AM
Author: soul-stirring police squad parlor

Oliver Nelson was a great composer/arranger but not really much of a soloist. Dexter Gordon was a prototypical bop sax player. I wish we could clone him 1000x

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Date: October 28th, 2014 4:52 PM
Author: aromatic cumskin

TY brother.

Rate Stolen Moments.

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Date: October 28th, 2014 9:51 PM
Author: soul-stirring police squad parlor

stolen moments is a fantastic 180 composition. I transcribed every part in my jazz theory class freshmen year of college. 90% of the voicings I used in compositions for that degree were ripped from that tune. I owe him a lot actually

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Date: October 28th, 2014 8:34 AM
Author: soul-stirring police squad parlor

Not really. Miles, Clifford brown, Freddie Hubbard, lee Morgan etc. were all much, much better than him

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Date: October 28th, 2014 4:52 PM
Author: aromatic cumskin

How about Bill Frissell?

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Date: October 28th, 2014 9:53 PM
Author: soul-stirring police squad parlor

im not really into fusion, but smart ppl like him

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2710879&forum_id=2#26605675)



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Date: July 27th, 2023 7:36 AM
Author: aromatic cumskin

listening to him rn. he's better than all of them except miles. clifford's playing is too mechanical.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2710879&forum_id=2#46595938)