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Had a real introspective moment last night about being a lawyer

And how much I hate myself for becoming one. Just, really p...
Aromatic clown
  10/28/14
If it wasn't law, it would be some other horrible career tha...
iridescent locale nibblets
  10/28/14
Well, yeah, because it is likely me who is the problem (or d...
Aromatic clown
  10/28/14
I'm so glad I didn't go into law because I know for a fact t...
hilarious multi-colored field
  10/28/14
yeah, it is sad. My dad was a lawyer, a very successful one...
Aromatic clown
  10/28/14
so why did you go to law school? Didn't your dad tell you it...
hilarious multi-colored field
  10/28/14
I don't know. At this point it was a long time ago....and I...
Aromatic clown
  10/28/14
No, there's a reason lawyers rank among the very highest in ...
histrionic tanning salon tank
  10/29/14
It's not the career as much as the people that choose it. If...
iridescent locale nibblets
  10/29/14
Partially true I think. But it's still partially the career....
histrionic tanning salon tank
  10/29/14
Idk man. there's something uniquely awful about law
Aphrodisiac parlor
  02/10/15
LOL - this is one of the box's pumos. why the fuck is she tr...
Swollen mad cow disease
  02/11/15
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bbw9smbN5Ys
hilarious multi-colored field
  10/28/14
deep
bat-shit-crazy rehab
  10/28/14
rude bro
hilarious multi-colored field
  10/28/14
surprisingly appropos
Honey-headed Public Bath Fat Ankles
  10/28/14
...
Coiffed domesticated shrine
  02/09/15
you looked too long into the void and the void began to look...
low-t national tattoo
  10/28/14
the only way to maek it in corporate america is basically to...
Salmon milk parlour
  10/28/14
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fragrant disrespectful community account legend
  10/28/14
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stubborn mustard marketing idea hunting ground
  10/28/14
the lack of reflection or perspective is truly cr.
crystalline university giraffe
  10/28/14
I actually think that there are many jobs in corporate ameri...
Aromatic clown
  10/28/14
as a former unhappy corporate slave, the worst thing about i...
hilarious multi-colored field
  10/28/14
My hours as a lawyer aren't that bad, and my commute is 15 m...
Aromatic clown
  10/28/14
i need to brainwash myself into caring about the deals im on
stubborn mustard marketing idea hunting ground
  10/28/14
I don't care. Only reason I do a serviceable job is because...
Aromatic clown
  10/28/14
i literally am just not doing due diligence assignment becau...
stubborn mustard marketing idea hunting ground
  10/28/14
that is a different level. I would just review them, or hav...
Aromatic clown
  10/28/14
nobody has any clue im not reviewing them. nobody gives a fu...
stubborn mustard marketing idea hunting ground
  10/28/14
so there is absolutely no chance that one will have some bom...
Aromatic clown
  10/28/14
i just say "woops my bad I missed that"
stubborn mustard marketing idea hunting ground
  10/28/14
It sounds like you've already done this?
Aromatic clown
  10/28/14
yeah. nothing has happened yet. even if they did shit can me...
stubborn mustard marketing idea hunting ground
  10/28/14
Give some examples of those jobs
beady-eyed chrome corn cake
  10/28/14
lol, please name some examples of corporate jobs you think w...
umber french set
  10/28/14
cr. Get in there and bill those hours. Save money. Keep y...
light stain senate
  10/28/14
just do cop postbacc and become ALPHA surgeon saving lives a...
Turquoise Comical Hominid Ticket Booth
  10/29/14
not all corporate jobs require blackberries and 24/7 availab...
stubborn mustard marketing idea hunting ground
  10/29/14
yeah but the problem with "seeing your job as just a me...
hilarious multi-colored field
  10/29/14
Fucking this. I only work 40 hours a week and that feels lik...
soul-stirring heaven
  02/10/15
Yeah, try 50-65 hours a week at 55k. I'm trying to switch to...
vermilion racy chad office
  02/10/15
180 kill it
stubborn mustard marketing idea hunting ground
  02/10/15
i think 85 k with spare time is CR and dont forget, alot ...
Massive Feces Dingle Berry
  02/10/15
lol $85k for 40 hours would be 180
Infuriating Area
  02/10/15
190
Massive Feces Dingle Berry
  02/10/15
(insane striver)
cracking pocket flask stage
  02/10/15
LOL
Pearly business firm
  02/10/15
what's wrong with coding all day
cracking pocket flask stage
  02/10/15
(person who has had 2 jobs - 1 as a lawyer, and 1 as a lawye...
Floppy gold gas station
  02/10/15
i don't know that i agree with that. but it's kind of like t...
low-t national tattoo
  10/28/14
is this from a movie?
hilarious multi-colored field
  10/28/14
FRIDAY NIGHT LIGHTS
razzle-dazzle brilliant round eye psychic
  10/28/14
lol God
Bronze idea he suggested bawdyhouse
  10/28/14
lol at watching shit tv
hilarious multi-colored field
  10/28/14
this is very cr as a lmc prole that resents his prole upbrin...
Garnet bespoke indian lodge nowag
  10/28/14
u will realize that lmc is a better life than umc but it'll ...
stubborn mustard marketing idea hunting ground
  10/28/14
Hi me. I'd give up my law degree + debt to go back to LMC l...
Lime Motley Personal Credit Line
  10/28/14
my dad made like 45k in low COL and was a 180 dad who spent ...
stubborn mustard marketing idea hunting ground
  10/28/14
This. People are more chill and fun. Less femnazi types and ...
soul-stirring heaven
  02/10/15
so you're saying there's a chance :)
Floppy gold gas station
  02/10/15
180 post pumo
Galvanic citrine new version
  02/11/15
lol at the LMC fantasizing ITT. Yeah being not poor is good,...
razzle-dazzle brilliant round eye psychic
  10/28/14
180 the problem with being LMC is that you're surrounded ...
cerise wrinkle kitty cat
  10/28/14
right, that's why the xo advice is ultimately really stupid
razzle-dazzle brilliant round eye psychic
  10/28/14
jfc u r warped. LMC people are idiots? nice.
stubborn mustard marketing idea hunting ground
  10/29/14
sometimes ppl dont realize the $$$$$$$$$ is bullshit until l...
stubborn mustard marketing idea hunting ground
  10/29/14
there are tons of people like this in law school, and they a...
Khaki stag film people who are hurt
  10/29/14
that's the thing, there's no lock that they will be well off...
razzle-dazzle brilliant round eye psychic
  10/29/14
LMC?
Hairraiser native
  02/10/15
...
violent scourge upon the earth
  02/10/15
i left advertising to go to a T6 law school back when ppl we...
unhinged sinister resort multi-billionaire
  10/28/14
yah the problem is that you're a pretentious faggot and you'...
razzle-dazzle brilliant round eye psychic
  10/28/14
you sound like you were an antisocial faggot. "urghhh u...
stubborn mustard marketing idea hunting ground
  10/29/14
It's clear to me that neither of you faggots have had to dea...
blue vigorous candlestick maker center
  10/29/14
You're insane. Seriously. You need to fix yourself. Thinking...
razzle-dazzle brilliant round eye psychic
  10/29/14
"Thinking that people from Rutgers are moneyed-children...
Free-loading Talented Yarmulke
  02/10/15
actually im surprised u don't love biglaw, u freak
stubborn mustard marketing idea hunting ground
  10/29/14
you're the short, balding nebbish dude standing in the corne...
180 ruby shitlib puppy
  02/09/15
I work with these people now. They're not that bad: chill 11...
chest-beating misunderstood den
  02/09/15
This. Most Rutgers/'Cuse UG people I know are chill as fuck....
Infuriating Area
  02/10/15
Go in-house. It's totally changed my life. I mean I'm an off...
Sable cerebral state indirect expression
  10/28/14
How long did it take you to go in house?
stubborn mustard marketing idea hunting ground
  10/29/14
How would it change my life? My hours aren't terrible and I...
Aromatic clown
  10/29/14
THE PROBLEM IS YOU DUMBASSES
haunting fanboi address
  10/29/14
you're all gonna die and be forgotten. just quit, who gives ...
Avocado Temple
  02/10/15
...
boyish dopamine lay
  02/10/15
lol
Avocado Temple
  02/10/15
...
Massive Feces Dingle Berry
  02/10/15
...
Aphrodisiac parlor
  02/10/15
just last night i was walking home and was like goddam at th...
Massive Feces Dingle Berry
  02/10/15
you still a lawyer brah?
Avocado Temple
  02/10/15
big time
Massive Feces Dingle Berry
  02/10/15
quit today brah. fuck it. you'll figure out what you want to...
Avocado Temple
  02/10/15
yea i mean thats my plan every day...but then i say well why...
Massive Feces Dingle Berry
  02/10/15
what's your financial situation brah? gf/wife? kids?
Avocado Temple
  02/10/15
got like 200k liquid, minimal loans, serious gf who makes li...
Massive Feces Dingle Berry
  02/10/15
that might be tougher man. i had about the same amount of mo...
Avocado Temple
  02/10/15
i mean i pretty much have told her that if she wants to take...
Massive Feces Dingle Berry
  02/10/15
i traveled for a long time, just chilled on beaches in rando...
Avocado Temple
  02/10/15
what kind of business, if u feel like sharing
Massive Feces Dingle Berry
  02/10/15
180
Aphrodisiac parlor
  02/10/15
I grew up poor, have a JD but don't practice. I'm pretty...
Alcoholic point
  02/10/15
Thread to help other depressed officemos who feel like they'...
Diverse love of her life potus
  02/10/15
I had a lot of moments like that lately brother, and I acce...
Aphrodisiac parlor
  02/10/15
what do u do now
Massive Feces Dingle Berry
  02/10/15
Working on my transition to teaching/education, living fruga...
Aphrodisiac parlor
  02/10/15
CR sounds great. enjoy the good life bro
Massive Feces Dingle Berry
  02/10/15
i think i figured out this sentiment and it is very very sim...
thriller deranged menage sweet tailpipe
  02/10/15
It's true that being a slave and taking orders from someone...
Aphrodisiac parlor
  02/10/15
...
Coiffed domesticated shrine
  02/10/15
Funny that someone bumped this. I forgot I wrote this. A...
Aromatic clown
  02/10/15
lol so thats the trick! make partner!
Massive Feces Dingle Berry
  02/10/15
lmao
Saffron Mischievous Therapy
  02/10/15
I actually don't think I would like it as much if I was a pa...
Aromatic clown
  02/10/15
What kind of small business do you own?
Chartreuse Toaster Range
  02/10/15
a legal partnership
Aromatic clown
  02/10/15
i guess breakfast makes everything better huh.
umber french set
  02/10/15
Not everything. I'm still a lawyer.
Aromatic clown
  02/10/15
update - OP is det :(
lavender excitant crackhouse
  03/26/19
Start your own firm. Lawyer is actually the easiest professi...
electric pearl circlehead faggot firefighter
  02/11/15
Eh. It's really not that bad. Plenty of worse jobs that pay ...
Mind-boggling ivory meetinghouse
  03/26/19
...
cerise wrinkle kitty cat
  03/26/19


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Date: October 28th, 2014 4:54 PM
Author: Aromatic clown

And how much I hate myself for becoming one. Just, really pitiful that this is what I have done with my life.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2712182&forum_id=2#26604049)



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Date: October 28th, 2014 4:55 PM
Author: iridescent locale nibblets

If it wasn't law, it would be some other horrible career that u hate. Think about that.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2712182&forum_id=2#26604056)



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Date: October 28th, 2014 4:56 PM
Author: Aromatic clown

Well, yeah, because it is likely me who is the problem (or definitely me)...but it didn't have to be.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2712182&forum_id=2#26604062)



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Date: October 28th, 2014 4:57 PM
Author: hilarious multi-colored field

I'm so glad I didn't go into law because I know for a fact this would be me.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2712182&forum_id=2#26604076)



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Date: October 28th, 2014 5:01 PM
Author: Aromatic clown

yeah, it is sad. My dad was a lawyer, a very successful one, and I still always said that I would never become one (he hated it too).

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2712182&forum_id=2#26604094)



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Date: October 28th, 2014 5:10 PM
Author: hilarious multi-colored field

so why did you go to law school? Didn't your dad tell you it led to a shitty life?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2712182&forum_id=2#26604141)



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Date: October 28th, 2014 5:15 PM
Author: Aromatic clown

I don't know. At this point it was a long time ago....and I think my dad had a momentary lack of sense. I mean, we were pretty darn wealthy growing up, and I didn't really appreciate how much my dad hated his job, and I was an idiot...

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2712182&forum_id=2#26604172)



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Date: October 29th, 2014 12:30 AM
Author: histrionic tanning salon tank

No, there's a reason lawyers rank among the very highest in terms of suicide, depression, anxiety, drug abuse, etc. It is a uniformly shitty career.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2712182&forum_id=2#26606732)



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Date: October 29th, 2014 1:13 AM
Author: iridescent locale nibblets

It's not the career as much as the people that choose it. If we were all dentists/accountants/etc we'd be just as miserable and feel like we are not achieving to our "potential". Most of us have an unjustifiable belief in our abilities and intellect

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2712182&forum_id=2#26607057)



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Date: October 29th, 2014 3:48 PM
Author: histrionic tanning salon tank

Partially true I think. But it's still partially the career. And somebody who went to a top law school doesn't have an unjustifiable belief in their abilities/intellect; they just don't have balls. Too risk-averse.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2712182&forum_id=2#26609683)



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Date: February 10th, 2015 11:47 AM
Author: Aphrodisiac parlor

Idk man. there's something uniquely awful about law

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2712182&forum_id=2#27285928)



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Date: February 11th, 2015 5:41 PM
Author: Swollen mad cow disease

LOL - this is one of the box's pumos. why the fuck is she trolling hard against the legal profession?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2712182&forum_id=2#27295116)



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Date: October 28th, 2014 4:56 PM
Author: hilarious multi-colored field

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bbw9smbN5Ys

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2712182&forum_id=2#26604064)



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Date: October 28th, 2014 5:03 PM
Author: bat-shit-crazy rehab

deep

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2712182&forum_id=2#26604104)



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Date: October 28th, 2014 5:11 PM
Author: hilarious multi-colored field

rude bro

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2712182&forum_id=2#26604145)



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Date: October 28th, 2014 5:58 PM
Author: Honey-headed Public Bath Fat Ankles

surprisingly appropos

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2712182&forum_id=2#26604392)



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Date: February 9th, 2015 8:52 PM
Author: Coiffed domesticated shrine



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2712182&forum_id=2#27282376)



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Date: October 28th, 2014 4:56 PM
Author: low-t national tattoo

you looked too long into the void and the void began to look back through you hth

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2712182&forum_id=2#26604066)



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Date: October 28th, 2014 5:01 PM
Author: Salmon milk parlour

the only way to maek it in corporate america is basically to be a dope who gets completely consumed in the nonsense and doesn't have a chance to really think things through. also gotta grow up a lmc hick who resents his prole upbringing. no other way.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2712182&forum_id=2#26604095)



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Date: October 28th, 2014 5:02 PM
Author: fragrant disrespectful community account legend



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2712182&forum_id=2#26604097)



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Date: October 28th, 2014 5:09 PM
Author: stubborn mustard marketing idea hunting ground



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2712182&forum_id=2#26604135)



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Date: October 28th, 2014 5:15 PM
Author: crystalline university giraffe

the lack of reflection or perspective is truly cr.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2712182&forum_id=2#26604168)



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Date: October 28th, 2014 5:16 PM
Author: Aromatic clown

I actually think that there are many jobs in corporate america where I would have been happy, and surely would have gained skills that would allow me to do something on my own or anything more interesting and creative than what I do now.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2712182&forum_id=2#26604179)



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Date: October 28th, 2014 5:18 PM
Author: hilarious multi-colored field

as a former unhappy corporate slave, the worst thing about it was the hours and the commute. I think i could have tolerated it if not for the lack of freedom i felt.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2712182&forum_id=2#26604187)



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Date: October 28th, 2014 5:20 PM
Author: Aromatic clown

My hours as a lawyer aren't that bad, and my commute is 15 minutes, and I make a lot of money, but it is one of the most meaningless jobs you can do, and therefore is sad

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2712182&forum_id=2#26604199)



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Date: October 28th, 2014 5:21 PM
Author: stubborn mustard marketing idea hunting ground

i need to brainwash myself into caring about the deals im on

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2712182&forum_id=2#26604206)



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Date: October 28th, 2014 5:24 PM
Author: Aromatic clown

I don't care. Only reason I do a serviceable job is because of how much of a pain in the ass it is to do a bad one.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2712182&forum_id=2#26604219)



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Date: October 28th, 2014 5:25 PM
Author: stubborn mustard marketing idea hunting ground

i literally am just not doing due diligence assignment because i dont care so hard. lying and saying I reviewed board minutes when i havent.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2712182&forum_id=2#26604225)



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Date: October 28th, 2014 5:29 PM
Author: Aromatic clown

that is a different level. I would just review them, or have someone review them, so I didn't have to deal with the headache.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2712182&forum_id=2#26604234)



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Date: October 28th, 2014 5:31 PM
Author: stubborn mustard marketing idea hunting ground

nobody has any clue im not reviewing them. nobody gives a fuck.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2712182&forum_id=2#26604250)



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Date: October 28th, 2014 5:35 PM
Author: Aromatic clown

so there is absolutely no chance that one will have some bombshell that could screw up everything (or at least should have been raised with your client)? If not, that is good diligence.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2712182&forum_id=2#26604269)



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Date: October 28th, 2014 5:37 PM
Author: stubborn mustard marketing idea hunting ground

i just say

"woops my bad I missed that"



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2712182&forum_id=2#26604282)



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Date: October 28th, 2014 5:39 PM
Author: Aromatic clown

It sounds like you've already done this?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2712182&forum_id=2#26604293)



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Date: October 28th, 2014 5:41 PM
Author: stubborn mustard marketing idea hunting ground

yeah. nothing has happened yet. even if they did shit can me, i wouldnt care. im going to burn out or get canned in 2 years anyways.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2712182&forum_id=2#26604302)



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Date: October 28th, 2014 5:37 PM
Author: beady-eyed chrome corn cake

Give some examples of those jobs

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2712182&forum_id=2#26604285)



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Date: October 28th, 2014 6:27 PM
Author: umber french set

lol, please name some examples of corporate jobs you think would be better.

99% of corporate jobs are uninteresting and meaningless. i know people who work at "cool" places like tesla and their jobs are just as boring as the lawyer's jobs. my husband designs satellites and his job sounds cool to other people b/c it's classified but he literally just codes all day and has to deal w/ stupid office politics.

you have typical "grass is greener" mentality. no, there is not a better job for you out there that you'd be happier with, and if that job existed, you wouldn't be able to get it. be happy that you make a lot of money and that you have good hours so that at least you family life isn't ruined by billing hours. cuz at the end of the day when you're on your deathbed, you're not going to be thinking, "oh gee, i wish i took that product manager position at the F100 company instead of be a lawyer." all you'll care about is hugging your puppydood/spouse/children one more time. see your job as just a means to have a meaningful life outside work. change your perspective.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2712182&forum_id=2#26604575)



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Date: October 28th, 2014 6:45 PM
Author: light stain senate

cr. Get in there and bill those hours. Save money. Keep your head down. Retire as early as you can.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2712182&forum_id=2#26604688)



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Date: October 29th, 2014 12:05 AM
Author: Turquoise Comical Hominid Ticket Booth

just do cop postbacc and become ALPHA surgeon saving lives and bedding nurses

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2712182&forum_id=2#26606602)



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Date: October 29th, 2014 4:57 AM
Author: stubborn mustard marketing idea hunting ground

not all corporate jobs require blackberries and 24/7 availability

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2712182&forum_id=2#26607698)



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Date: October 29th, 2014 7:22 AM
Author: hilarious multi-colored field

yeah but the problem with "seeing your job as just a means to having a meaningful life outside work" is that most well-paying corporate jobs take up so much of your time. if you're spending 65 hours a week working/commuting there're only a few hours left in the week to not be miserable. It's the classic trap. For many people this tradeoff simply isn't worth it.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2712182&forum_id=2#26607843)



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Date: February 10th, 2015 8:39 AM
Author: soul-stirring heaven

Fucking this. I only work 40 hours a week and that feels like hell. At least you guys are making money. Imagine how shitty 40 hours making 85k at 29. The only thing that gets me through the day is my girlfriend, puppydood and loan forgiveness.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2712182&forum_id=2#27285219)



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Date: February 10th, 2015 10:21 AM
Author: vermilion racy chad office

Yeah, try 50-65 hours a week at 55k. I'm trying to switch to a back office job making 50k for 40hrs a week despite the warnings of my manager that it will "kill my career." LOL, let it fucking die

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2712182&forum_id=2#27285538)



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Date: February 10th, 2015 10:22 AM
Author: stubborn mustard marketing idea hunting ground

180

kill it

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2712182&forum_id=2#27285542)



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Date: February 10th, 2015 10:24 AM
Author: Massive Feces Dingle Berry

i think 85 k with spare time is CR

and dont forget, alot of the "spare time" you have as a biglawyer is consumed by stressing about work...sundays before a crazy week = terrible

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2712182&forum_id=2#27285553)



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Date: February 10th, 2015 11:38 AM
Author: Infuriating Area

lol $85k for 40 hours would be 180

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2712182&forum_id=2#27285888)



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Date: February 10th, 2015 11:42 AM
Author: Massive Feces Dingle Berry

190

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2712182&forum_id=2#27285903)



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Date: February 10th, 2015 1:14 PM
Author: cracking pocket flask stage

(insane striver)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2712182&forum_id=2#27286339)



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Date: February 10th, 2015 9:18 PM
Author: Pearly business firm

LOL

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2712182&forum_id=2#27289401)



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Date: February 10th, 2015 1:14 PM
Author: cracking pocket flask stage

what's wrong with coding all day

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2712182&forum_id=2#27286338)



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Date: February 10th, 2015 7:59 PM
Author: Floppy gold gas station

(person who has had 2 jobs - 1 as a lawyer, and 1 as a lawyer)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2712182&forum_id=2#27288896)



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Date: October 28th, 2014 5:22 PM
Author: low-t national tattoo

i don't know that i agree with that. but it's kind of like the scene where riggins is benching and voodoo is spotting him, but when riggins gets caught on like his tenth rep voodoo is like "no spot faggot. find something you hate. dad mom whatever. find something you hate enough to put that bar up bitch."

it's kind of like that.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2712182&forum_id=2#26604212)



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Date: October 28th, 2014 5:30 PM
Author: hilarious multi-colored field

is this from a movie?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2712182&forum_id=2#26604241)



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Date: October 28th, 2014 6:11 PM
Author: razzle-dazzle brilliant round eye psychic

FRIDAY NIGHT LIGHTS

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2712182&forum_id=2#26604472)



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Date: October 28th, 2014 6:18 PM
Author: Bronze idea he suggested bawdyhouse

lol God

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2712182&forum_id=2#26604524)



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Date: October 28th, 2014 9:39 PM
Author: hilarious multi-colored field

lol at watching shit tv

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2712182&forum_id=2#26605603)



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Date: October 28th, 2014 5:32 PM
Author: Garnet bespoke indian lodge nowag

this is very cr as a lmc prole that resents his prole upbringing

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2712182&forum_id=2#26604256)



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Date: October 28th, 2014 5:33 PM
Author: stubborn mustard marketing idea hunting ground

u will realize that lmc is a better life than umc but it'll be too late

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2712182&forum_id=2#26604258)



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Date: October 28th, 2014 5:40 PM
Author: Lime Motley Personal Credit Line

Hi me. I'd give up my law degree + debt to go back to LMC living.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2712182&forum_id=2#26604298)



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Date: October 28th, 2014 5:42 PM
Author: stubborn mustard marketing idea hunting ground

my dad made like 45k in low COL and was a 180 dad who spent a ton of time with me and attended all my GAMES. fuck this gay METORPLEX LIFE we've pursued.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2712182&forum_id=2#26604309)



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Date: February 10th, 2015 8:41 AM
Author: soul-stirring heaven

This. People are more chill and fun. Less femnazi types and more manly men.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2712182&forum_id=2#27285223)



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Date: February 10th, 2015 7:58 PM
Author: Floppy gold gas station

so you're saying there's a chance :)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2712182&forum_id=2#27288884)



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Date: February 11th, 2015 3:43 AM
Author: Galvanic citrine new version

180 post pumo

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2712182&forum_id=2#27291863)



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Date: October 28th, 2014 6:14 PM
Author: razzle-dazzle brilliant round eye psychic

lol at the LMC fantasizing ITT. Yeah being not poor is good, OK so you're not on welfare, but still one really bad break from being out of $, and the feeling of being surrounded by proles and the general lack of direction or passion of anything they feel

here's the problem with you guys: you SAY you want some simpler LMC lifestyle but deep down you're too much of a greedy capitalist whore to give up the $, the handcuffs have got you for life

You could take your god given IQ and nestegg right now and go do public interest work or something that would give you meaning and still the slight prestige of being a white collar worker, but you wont, because you cant

so stop pretending the alternative, being LMC, is great and stop pretending you could have ever changed yourself, you are a slave to money and frankly until you FORCE yourself to break those chains (usually inertia is too strong so maybe when you're fired) you'll always be unhappy

but jfc stop romanticizing 45K a year, especially in an American that increasingly shits on the "have nots" which includes, sadly, the LMC

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2712182&forum_id=2#26604496)



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Date: October 28th, 2014 6:49 PM
Author: cerise wrinkle kitty cat

180

the problem with being LMC is that you're surrounded by idiots. that's why being a faggot hipster is good. you just chill and drink beer with relatively clever ppl

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2712182&forum_id=2#26604715)



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Date: October 28th, 2014 8:45 PM
Author: razzle-dazzle brilliant round eye psychic

right, that's why the xo advice is ultimately really stupid

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2712182&forum_id=2#26605328)



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Date: October 29th, 2014 4:58 AM
Author: stubborn mustard marketing idea hunting ground

jfc u r warped. LMC people are idiots? nice.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2712182&forum_id=2#26607701)



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Date: October 29th, 2014 4:59 AM
Author: stubborn mustard marketing idea hunting ground

sometimes ppl dont realize the $$$$$$$$$ is bullshit until later on in life. ppl can change. ive seen it.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2712182&forum_id=2#26607702)



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Date: October 29th, 2014 5:02 AM
Author: Khaki stag film people who are hurt

there are tons of people like this in law school, and they all deep down have made the risk averse choice to be well off, at the sacrifice of whatever dreams they might have.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2712182&forum_id=2#26607708)



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Date: October 29th, 2014 6:17 AM
Author: razzle-dazzle brilliant round eye psychic

that's the thing, there's no lock that they will be well off, either, even a dude who "makes it" at some firm could easily be in trouble years later

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2712182&forum_id=2#26607796)



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Date: February 10th, 2015 8:21 AM
Author: Hairraiser native

LMC?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2712182&forum_id=2#27285202)



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Date: February 10th, 2015 8:17 PM
Author: violent scourge upon the earth



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2712182&forum_id=2#27289053)



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Date: October 28th, 2014 8:58 PM
Author: unhinged sinister resort multi-billionaire

i left advertising to go to a T6 law school back when ppl were still going to law school (mid noughts

i think of it as the worst decision of my life. but at the same time, when I was in advertising, I hated being surrounded by idiots from ttt's like syracuse (mostly women and faggots). So I figured hey... go get a preftigious degree. I now hate my life. Would I have hated it more if I had stayed in advertising? I don't know. I wish I had gone to college when the internet and internet job searching were more robust (2007 and beyond). I think it would have expanded my knowledge of potential careers and the value of an MBA dramatically.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2712182&forum_id=2#26605382)



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Date: October 28th, 2014 9:30 PM
Author: razzle-dazzle brilliant round eye psychic

yah the problem is that you're a pretentious faggot and you're never going to be happy and will die that way

Syracuse is not an elite school and I have no connection to the school, but it's still probably in the top 100ish or so of the 8,000 (!) schools in America. You're just not used to being around anyone even remotely normal. In fact, XO is not used to being around any "normal" person.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2712182&forum_id=2#26605553)



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Date: October 29th, 2014 5:07 AM
Author: stubborn mustard marketing idea hunting ground

you sound like you were an antisocial faggot. "urghhh u went to syracuse pls disengage from this office small talk." come on man.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2712182&forum_id=2#26607716)



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Date: October 29th, 2014 7:45 AM
Author: blue vigorous candlestick maker center

It's clear to me that neither of you faggots have had to deal with Syracuse, Rutgers, Hofstra, Pace, etc. grads. It is even worse than someone who went to community college because they actually think they have done something impressive and have parents with at least some amount of money, which fuels their narcissism.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2712182&forum_id=2#26607863)



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Date: October 29th, 2014 7:52 AM
Author: razzle-dazzle brilliant round eye psychic

You're insane. Seriously. You need to fix yourself. Thinking that people from Rutgers are moneyed-children. Maybe some but the way you paint with a broad brush and then believe it? Shit.

What you described is actually how you might explain kids who didn't go to HYP but settled for an Emory or Duke.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2712182&forum_id=2#26607867)



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Date: February 10th, 2015 12:19 PM
Author: Free-loading Talented Yarmulke

"Thinking that people from Rutgers are moneyed-children. Maybe some but the way you paint with a broad brush and then believe it? Shit."

There are plenty of umc's (and often of the newly minted kind) at those schools. And yes, they are often dumber and more insufferable than those from elite schools. The days of the humble working class kid going to Rutgers are long gone. Those are not the norm at a school like Pace, Rutgers, or Hofstra.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2712182&forum_id=2#27286086)



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Date: October 29th, 2014 8:39 AM
Author: stubborn mustard marketing idea hunting ground

actually im surprised u don't love biglaw, u freak

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2712182&forum_id=2#26607949)



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Date: February 9th, 2015 8:58 PM
Author: 180 ruby shitlib puppy

you're the short, balding nebbish dude standing in the corner with a look of disdain on his face in all the pictures, right?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2712182&forum_id=2#27282421)



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Date: February 9th, 2015 9:02 PM
Author: chest-beating misunderstood den

I work with these people now. They're not that bad: chill 115-124 IQ bros and bitches just hanging out and having fun in the office yet taking their jobs seriously when the occasion calls for it.

What's worse is working alongside grads of Syracuse/Rutgers/Hofstra/Pace LAW schools. These are literal mouthbreathers and one cannot help looking upon them in horror and with contempt.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2712182&forum_id=2#27282455)



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Date: February 10th, 2015 11:43 AM
Author: Infuriating Area

This. Most Rutgers/'Cuse UG people I know are chill as fuck.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2712182&forum_id=2#27285908)



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Date: October 28th, 2014 9:39 PM
Author: Sable cerebral state indirect expression

Go in-house. It's totally changed my life. I mean I'm an office drone now but I no longer feel that self hatred I feel radiating from you.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2712182&forum_id=2#26605598)



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Date: October 29th, 2014 7:00 AM
Author: stubborn mustard marketing idea hunting ground

How long did it take you to go in house?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2712182&forum_id=2#26607830)



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Date: October 29th, 2014 3:21 PM
Author: Aromatic clown

How would it change my life? My hours aren't terrible and I make double what I would make in-house, those aren't the problem. An in-house lawyer is probably even more meaningless than being outside counsel, if that is possible.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2712182&forum_id=2#26609571)



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Date: October 29th, 2014 8:02 AM
Author: haunting fanboi address

THE PROBLEM IS YOU DUMBASSES

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2712182&forum_id=2#26607882)



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Date: February 10th, 2015 8:56 AM
Author: Avocado Temple

you're all gonna die and be forgotten. just quit, who gives a fuck?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2712182&forum_id=2#27285248)



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Date: February 10th, 2015 9:04 AM
Author: boyish dopamine lay



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2712182&forum_id=2#27285258)



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Date: February 10th, 2015 9:06 AM
Author: Avocado Temple

lol

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2712182&forum_id=2#27285262)



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Date: February 10th, 2015 9:06 AM
Author: Massive Feces Dingle Berry



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2712182&forum_id=2#27285263)



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Date: February 10th, 2015 11:49 AM
Author: Aphrodisiac parlor



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2712182&forum_id=2#27285942)



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Date: February 10th, 2015 9:08 AM
Author: Massive Feces Dingle Berry

just last night i was walking home and was like goddam at the end of my life i would rather have been a failed [x] than a successful lawyer, where x = novelist, filmmaker, historian, actor, barista, just about anything that takes balls and vision

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2712182&forum_id=2#27285272)



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Date: February 10th, 2015 9:13 AM
Author: Avocado Temple

you still a lawyer brah?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2712182&forum_id=2#27285279)



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Date: February 10th, 2015 9:16 AM
Author: Massive Feces Dingle Berry

big time

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2712182&forum_id=2#27285285)



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Date: February 10th, 2015 10:08 AM
Author: Avocado Temple

quit today brah. fuck it. you'll figure out what you want to do tomorrow.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2712182&forum_id=2#27285486)



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Date: February 10th, 2015 10:10 AM
Author: Massive Feces Dingle Berry

yea i mean thats my plan every day...but then i say well why not do it a litttttle bit more...one of these days...turn thirty in a few months, maybe that'll be the day...just sucks that so many opportunities will instantly be nullified for me after i decide to "take time off." But i guess those are all striver jobs that are pretty un-CR anyways...

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2712182&forum_id=2#27285495)



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Date: February 10th, 2015 10:12 AM
Author: Avocado Temple

what's your financial situation brah? gf/wife? kids?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2712182&forum_id=2#27285503)



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Date: February 10th, 2015 10:14 AM
Author: Massive Feces Dingle Berry

got like 200k liquid, minimal loans, serious gf who makes like 80k, no kids but would like some in near future

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2712182&forum_id=2#27285507)



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Date: February 10th, 2015 10:27 AM
Author: Avocado Temple

that might be tougher man. i had about the same amount of money and was about the same age, but for me a big part of having the balls to quit was dumping my gf. wanted to just rid myself of my job, all my possessions, my gf, and have complete freedom to think about what i really wanted to do. i think it would have been a weird dynamic if i was unemployed with a marriage track gf. i also don't want kids, at least not in the next few years.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2712182&forum_id=2#27285570)



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Date: February 10th, 2015 10:30 AM
Author: Massive Feces Dingle Berry

i mean i pretty much have told her that if she wants to take it the distance that she shouldnt expect a middle class life cause im not putting up with this shit day in and day out to live in some shitty mcmansion in the subburbs...she seems ok with it...my bigger concern is that once you 'get off the train' youll never be able to get the bigfed or state/local gov, political jobs, academica jobs, etc. that i'm actually interested in...

what do u do now?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2712182&forum_id=2#27285582)



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Date: February 10th, 2015 11:54 AM
Author: Avocado Temple

i traveled for a long time, just chilled on beaches in random places, etc. started my own business, going well now, with the potential to start getting crazy.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2712182&forum_id=2#27285970)



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Date: February 10th, 2015 12:00 PM
Author: Massive Feces Dingle Berry

what kind of business, if u feel like sharing

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2712182&forum_id=2#27286002)



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Date: February 10th, 2015 12:45 PM
Author: Aphrodisiac parlor

180

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2712182&forum_id=2#27286174)



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Date: February 10th, 2015 10:02 AM
Author: Alcoholic point

I grew up poor, have a JD but don't practice.

I'm pretty fucking happy about it, but I'll echo the dude above who said he wished he'd gone to college with more robust Internet and job search ability. I'd have definitely gone for an MBA, something broadly useful, and taken opportunities as they came.

But, six or so years after taking the LSAT, I'm happy enough with how things have worked out. I don't have a cool, fun job, but I'm skilled enough that I can do shit that few other people are good at or have the required knowledge. I make good money and will only make more, and it happens to be in an industry that has relaxed deadlines and schedules. It's pretty fucking credited, honestly, and I imagine a lot of corporate careers are similar (I've worked in a few other corporate industries than where I worked now, and it would have been easy to move into a chill, decent paying career with some time and effort.)

You go in, get yourself some useful skills, and pretty soon you're in a position where one wrong move isn't enough to crush you, and life is pretty good.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2712182&forum_id=2#27285471)



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Date: February 10th, 2015 11:28 AM
Author: Diverse love of her life potus

Thread to help other depressed officemos who feel like they're wasting their lives typing away in a box: http://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=2798316&mc=8&forum_id=2

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2712182&forum_id=2#27285839)



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Date: February 10th, 2015 11:44 AM
Author: Aphrodisiac parlor

I had a lot of moments like that lately brother, and I accepted them as 100% positive and necessary introspection for me to become a better man moving forward.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2712182&forum_id=2#27285915)



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Date: February 10th, 2015 11:49 AM
Author: Massive Feces Dingle Berry

what do u do now

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2712182&forum_id=2#27285939)



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Date: February 10th, 2015 11:53 AM
Author: Aphrodisiac parlor

Working on my transition to teaching/education, living frugally and staying with parents in the meantime, will be tutoring in the short term for a little $, reading a lot, hiking and spending a lot of leisure time outdoors. I am much more pleasant to be around, more productive, more helpful and considerate, waking up at 7 am instead of 2 pm, and not deeply depressed anymore. That's all that matters in the end

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2712182&forum_id=2#27285959)



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Date: February 10th, 2015 11:54 AM
Author: Massive Feces Dingle Berry

CR sounds great. enjoy the good life bro

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2712182&forum_id=2#27285971)



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Date: February 10th, 2015 11:55 AM
Author: thriller deranged menage sweet tailpipe

i think i figured out this sentiment and it is very very simple.

forget all those people above that say, just put your head down because you just need free time outside of work. or people who say you would never give up your high paying lawyer job so stfu.

that's true. but that's not the issue.

the real issue is that we just want to be the boss. that's it. the boss. or at least have real autonomy or power or a little fiefdom. until you have that, you are someone's bitch. and a corporate lawyer is the ultimate bitch because you have the worst boss in the world--your clients.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2712182&forum_id=2#27285975)



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Date: February 10th, 2015 12:19 PM
Author: Aphrodisiac parlor

It's true that being a slave and taking orders from someone really sucks , but this is too simplistic. If you hate what you do as a lawyer, regardless of whether you're on your own or have superiors, you're probably going to be miserable practicing law. If you want to continue being a lawyer despite hating the work involved, you're going to have to try very hard to silence your misery and pretend it's ok in order to survive. Is it worth it?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2712182&forum_id=2#27286084)



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Date: February 10th, 2015 8:25 PM
Author: Coiffed domesticated shrine



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2712182&forum_id=2#27289090)



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Date: February 10th, 2015 1:01 PM
Author: Aromatic clown

Funny that someone bumped this. I forgot I wrote this.

As an update, I made partner since then at my firm. It actually has made my angst a little better. I'm a lawyer still, which sucks, but I'm also a small business owner, which is more interesting...I've now thrown myself into making us a better business (better brand, bigger, more practice groups, etc), which is kind of fun.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2712182&forum_id=2#27286287)



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Date: February 10th, 2015 2:21 PM
Author: Massive Feces Dingle Berry

lol so thats the trick! make partner!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2712182&forum_id=2#27286777)



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Date: February 10th, 2015 2:22 PM
Author: Saffron Mischievous Therapy

lmao

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2712182&forum_id=2#27286783)



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Date: February 10th, 2015 8:47 PM
Author: Aromatic clown

I actually don't think I would like it as much if I was a partner at some behemoth firm, even if I made more money...the trick is being at a small firm with less than 20 partners where you can really run the business yourself and make a noticeable difference.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2712182&forum_id=2#27289240)



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Date: February 10th, 2015 7:57 PM
Author: Chartreuse Toaster Range

What kind of small business do you own?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2712182&forum_id=2#27288874)



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Date: February 10th, 2015 8:48 PM
Author: Aromatic clown

a legal partnership

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2712182&forum_id=2#27289244)



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Date: February 10th, 2015 8:46 PM
Author: umber french set

i guess breakfast makes everything better huh.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2712182&forum_id=2#27289233)



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Date: February 10th, 2015 8:49 PM
Author: Aromatic clown

Not everything. I'm still a lawyer.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2712182&forum_id=2#27289251)



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Date: March 26th, 2019 10:47 AM
Author: lavender excitant crackhouse

update - OP is det :(

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2712182&forum_id=2#37992420)



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Date: February 11th, 2015 3:12 AM
Author: electric pearl circlehead faggot firefighter

Start your own firm. Lawyer is actually the easiest profession to work for yourself successfully.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2712182&forum_id=2#27291772)



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Date: March 26th, 2019 11:16 AM
Author: Mind-boggling ivory meetinghouse

Eh. It's really not that bad. Plenty of worse jobs that pay less.



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Date: March 26th, 2019 11:47 AM
Author: cerise wrinkle kitty cat



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