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http://slatestarcodex.com/2014/11/04/ethnic-tension-and-mean...
hairraiser theater
  11/05/14
Steve Sailer says: November 5, 2014 at 3:20 am ~new~ In...
cracking disrespectful set corn cake
  11/19/14
sailer never not posting unhinged non sequiturs
Curious Poppy Mad Cow Disease
  11/05/14
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Mind-boggling autistic national multi-billionaire
  11/05/14
he's right dumb ass
wonderful shaky marketing idea address
  06/20/18
Sailer is basically famous for posting comments.
laughsome mediation
  11/05/14
and why not? On November 19th, Rolling Stone posted “A ...
Balding library
  12/06/14
What a hilarious comment.
laughsome mediation
  11/05/14
lol at this reply: -- Taymon A. Beal says: November ...
hairraiser theater
  11/05/14
180
Cerise Theatre International Law Enforcement Agency
  11/05/14
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cracking disrespectful set corn cake
  12/27/14
lmao
cracking disrespectful set corn cake
  02/28/16
Sailer is clearly a not-very-smart guy just serves as an amp...
infuriating juggernaut
  11/05/14
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electric lettuce hissy fit
  12/27/14
Sailer is great, but lol at this comment. There's something ...
Transparent piazza milk
  11/05/14
"catholics donate to notre dame, jews donate to israel&...
hairraiser theater
  11/05/14
right, these guys are pretty much all current or former less...
tripping cordovan roast beef
  11/05/14
it'd be cool to see him trying to have an actual conversatio...
hairraiser theater
  11/05/14
yeah i don't think that's how you kick off a conversation wi...
tripping cordovan roast beef
  11/05/14
loling at this comment bro, is this for real? is this someth...
Diverse market
  12/27/14
no. that's MIRI. SSC is more interested in actual human reas...
razzmatazz persian parlor
  12/27/14
ah, interesting. I will have to check out MIRI
Diverse market
  12/27/14
this is the sort of thing you can expect from LW/MIRI: http:...
razzmatazz persian parlor
  12/27/14
Ljl, is this a chapter-by-chapter rewrite of Harry Potter wi...
Diverse market
  12/27/14
i don't know but lots of biglawyers come home and write post...
razzmatazz persian parlor
  12/27/14
welcome to the miserable existence of contemporary man, in w...
primrose bisexual cruise ship
  12/27/14
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hairraiser theater
  12/28/14
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razzmatazz persian parlor
  09/14/16
not xo stephen saylor's finest hour
tripping cordovan roast beef
  11/05/14
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arrogant frum gaping church
  11/20/14
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Curious Poppy Mad Cow Disease
  11/07/14
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Curious Poppy Mad Cow Disease
  11/23/14
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electric lettuce hissy fit
  11/23/14
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razzmatazz persian parlor
  12/27/14
also quoted in the most recent SSC post
Transparent piazza milk
  02/08/16


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Date: November 5th, 2014 6:38 AM
Author: hairraiser theater

http://slatestarcodex.com/2014/11/04/ethnic-tension-and-meaningless-arguments/#comment-156821

if you go back and read the original post and the rest of the discussion, his comment is really out of place lol

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2719292&forum_id=2#26652681)



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Date: November 19th, 2014 11:26 PM
Author: cracking disrespectful set corn cake

Steve Sailer says:

November 5, 2014 at 3:20 am ~new~

In the 20th Century, American Catholic businessmen who felt a lot of team spirit and competitive animal spirits didn’t engage all that much in pro-Catholic foreign policy activism regarding the Vatican, Ireland, Italy, Poland, Spain, Mexico, Quebec or wherever. Why not? One reason is because they had the Notre Dame Fighting Irish football team as a proxy to root for.

Similarly, Protestant businessmen invest huge amounts of money in their home state college football teams. T. Boone Pickens, for example, has given somewhere around $175,000,000 to boost Oklahoma State’s football team. Phil Knight of Nike may have given more to the U. of Oregon. If we had college football back in 1861-1865, maybe we wouldn’t have had the Late Unpleasantness.

In contrast, their American Jewish counterparts never had a college football team to root for and invest in, so they’ve rooted for and invested in Israel.

That helps explain when peace will come to the Middle East: about the same time that Notre Dame and USC negotiate an end to conflict on the football field.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2719292&forum_id=2#26755171)



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Date: November 5th, 2014 6:48 AM
Author: Curious Poppy Mad Cow Disease

sailer never not posting unhinged non sequiturs

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2719292&forum_id=2#26652688)



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Date: November 5th, 2014 8:03 AM
Author: Mind-boggling autistic national multi-billionaire



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2719292&forum_id=2#26652805)



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Date: June 20th, 2018 4:42 PM
Author: wonderful shaky marketing idea address

he's right dumb ass

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2719292&forum_id=2#36280057)



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Date: November 5th, 2014 6:54 AM
Author: laughsome mediation

Sailer is basically famous for posting comments.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2719292&forum_id=2#26652694)



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Date: December 6th, 2014 1:12 PM
Author: Balding library

and why not?

On November 19th, Rolling Stone posted “A Rape on Campus: A Brutal Assault and Search for Justice at UVA” to immense acclaim.

On November 24th, veteran editor Richard Bradley asked on his personal blog Shots in the Dark “Is the Rolling Stone Story True?”

Below are the only comments made on Bradley’s post before I linked to his post on November 29th, after which the floodgates opened.

351 Responses

Steve Sailer 11/25/2014 6:25 am

Wouldn’t the rapists get cut by the broken glass all over the floor, too? I guess they were such sex-crazed animals that they didn’t notice the glass cutting their hands and knees for the first three hours.

Steve Sailer 11/25/2014 6:51 am

Perhaps this media furor about UVA has something to do with the murder of UVA coed Hanna Graham in September? With all the recent news stories of bad behavior against women by black men, such as Bill Cosby, Ray Rice, and the suspect in the Graham murder, there’s a real hunger right now for a tale of evil white men. That doesn’t mean this Rolling Stone story isn’t completely true; but, like you say, it sure complies with current prejudices far better than most of the recent stories of women being abused by men.

Steve Sailer 11/25/2014 7:57 am

So this is a pre-planned, traditional annual fraternity initiation gang-rape, with two older fraternity brothers coaching the seven pledges but not partaking themselves? Yet, it doesn’t seem very well organized at all, such as leaving a glass table in the middle of the room to immediately fall over and smash. And the pitch darkness — or at least it’s dark enough so nobody can see where the glass table is, but not so dark that the poor victim can’t recognize her assailant from anthropology class — seems odd, too. Don’t these animalistic rapists want to watch? Presumably, the pitch darkness is to prevent the victim from identifying her assailants, but she can already identify the ringleader Drew. And how many pledges are there at this fraternity anyway? Seven? Then what good does darkness do to cloud their identities? Or say there are twelve pledges. Even if the victim couldn’t identify any (besides Drew) isn’t there a lot of worry that the police would just arrest all twelve and wait for one or two of the five who weren’t rapists to get cold feet and ID the real perps in return for immunity?

Steve Sailer 11/25/2014 11:14 am

A problem with the plausibility of the story is the source’s insistence that she was sober and remembers every detail accurately. Relax that constraint and the story would seem less unlikely because inconsistent or improbable details could be chalked up to alcohol fog.

Steve Sailer 11/27/2014 4:20 am

Sorry to keep coming back to this, but I’ve done some more thinking and here’s where the story falls apart: pitch darkness _and_ broken glass on the floor. The glass table is smashed, but nobody turns on the light to see what happened or where the broken glass is? Instead, each man, having heard the glass table get smashed, still gets down on the floor covered with shards of broken glass, risking not only his hands and knees, but also pulling out an even more personal part of his anatomy, one that he only has one of. Really?

Then, my readers followed up with numerous insightful comments on Bradley’s blog on November 29th and 30th. On December 1st, articles started appearing citing Bradley’s post in places like Reason, the WSJ, and Jonah Goldberg’s column in the L.A. Times.

From December 2nd, onward, the Washington Post took the lead, actually doing new shoe leather reporting. The New York Times, however, published only one wishy-washy story about doubts, then on December 4th published a long article on the supposed rape culture crisis on campus and in the military, credulously citing the Rolling Stone story repeatedly.

Today, Rolling Stone has apologized for the article and the Washington Post has much new reporting about it.

So score one for the WaPo over the NYT.

And here’s my Taki’s Magazine article from earlier this week “A Rape Hoax for Book Lovers.”



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2719292&forum_id=2#26871564)



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Date: November 5th, 2014 7:02 AM
Author: laughsome mediation

What a hilarious comment.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2719292&forum_id=2#26652700)



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Date: November 5th, 2014 5:29 PM
Author: hairraiser theater

lol at this reply:

--

Taymon A. Beal says:

November 5, 2014 at 7:50 am

Do you have a source for any of this?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2719292&forum_id=2#26655433)



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Date: November 5th, 2014 5:31 PM
Author: Cerise Theatre International Law Enforcement Agency

180

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2719292&forum_id=2#26655448)



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Date: December 27th, 2014 11:02 PM
Author: cracking disrespectful set corn cake



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2719292&forum_id=2#27008205)



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Date: February 28th, 2016 7:53 PM
Author: cracking disrespectful set corn cake

lmao

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2719292&forum_id=2#29939385)



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Date: November 5th, 2014 5:40 PM
Author: infuriating juggernaut

Sailer is clearly a not-very-smart guy just serves as an amplifier/mouthpiece for, and to draw the heat away from, people who are much smarter than him.

i think i've read that exact comment by him on some other blog somewhere; I'm sure he came up with this dumb friedmanesque 'insight' and is so proud of it he ctrl-c's it on every blog post where he can ctrl-f 'israel' and 'jews'

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2719292&forum_id=2#26655497)



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Date: December 27th, 2014 11:45 PM
Author: electric lettuce hissy fit



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2719292&forum_id=2#27008422)



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Date: November 5th, 2014 5:58 PM
Author: Transparent piazza milk

Sailer is great, but lol at this comment. There's something interesting here, but it doesn't have much to do with sports.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2719292&forum_id=2#26655578)



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Date: November 5th, 2014 6:32 PM
Author: hairraiser theater

"catholics donate to notre dame, jews donate to israel" is a clever little flippant one-liner, but that's all it is. if you try to forge a bit like that into something more expository, it loses any analogical force.

I like sailer's schtick of making everything about american social groups and the dynamics between them, especially when he gets a little old-timey with it and starts talking about catholics and protestants and "white ethnics". but it's hilarious to see him doing that on a blog populated by 99th percentile aspergers/IQ "rationalist" millennials who converse in an abnormally abstract style, and whose concrete cultural experience is drawn mainly from a bunch of weird nerd shit. he doesn't even seem to recognize that he's on another planet.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2719292&forum_id=2#26655750)



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Date: November 5th, 2014 6:43 PM
Author: tripping cordovan roast beef

right, these guys are pretty much all current or former less-wrongers and literally donate money to "friendly AI research" (the chief nerd's group sex commune) to prevent infinite copies of themselves from being tortured eternally in virtual hell by an acausal robot god

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2719292&forum_id=2#26655795)



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Date: November 5th, 2014 6:47 PM
Author: hairraiser theater

it'd be cool to see him trying to have an actual conversation with those people, but the cultural barrier is huge, and I don't think sailer has the faintest idea of how to "code-switch" in this situation.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2719292&forum_id=2#26655813)



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Date: November 5th, 2014 6:50 PM
Author: tripping cordovan roast beef

yeah i don't think that's how you kick off a conversation with people who are more typically geeking out about arduino motion sensor halloween costumes and fretting about paperclip maximizers

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2719292&forum_id=2#26655831)



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Date: December 27th, 2014 11:16 PM
Author: Diverse market

loling at this comment bro, is this for real? is this something that the Slate Star Codex guy is actually concerned about (i.e., "virtual hell" and an "acausal robot god")?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2719292&forum_id=2#27008271)



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Date: December 27th, 2014 11:17 PM
Author: razzmatazz persian parlor

no. that's MIRI. SSC is more interested in actual human reasoning than hypothetical machine reasoning

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2719292&forum_id=2#27008276)



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Date: December 27th, 2014 11:18 PM
Author: Diverse market

ah, interesting. I will have to check out MIRI

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2719292&forum_id=2#27008279)



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Date: December 27th, 2014 11:19 PM
Author: razzmatazz persian parlor

this is the sort of thing you can expect from LW/MIRI: http://hpmor.com/

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2719292&forum_id=2#27008283)



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Date: December 27th, 2014 11:35 PM
Author: Diverse market

Ljl, is this a chapter-by-chapter rewrite of Harry Potter with the scientific method instead of magic? This is incredible dude. How long does something like this take (hundreds of hours right?)? There are actually internet people out there who would work on a project like this (obviously to the exclusion of their wives, careers, etc.)? They just get home from their work-study positions at the Big State U chem lab and start in on chapter 17 of the Harry Potter internet rewrite?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2719292&forum_id=2#27008360)



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Date: December 27th, 2014 11:36 PM
Author: razzmatazz persian parlor

i don't know but lots of biglawyers come home and write posts about characters like "whokebe" and "jinx" so i'm not gonna be too judgmental. i mean, yes, it makes me want to puke, yes.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2719292&forum_id=2#27008366)



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Date: December 27th, 2014 11:52 PM
Author: primrose bisexual cruise ship

welcome to the miserable existence of contemporary man, in which there are a dearth of meaningful roles available to them in the greater society, forcing them to create their own weird cliques in which to manufacture artificial ones.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2719292&forum_id=2#27008470)



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Date: December 28th, 2014 12:00 AM
Author: hairraiser theater



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2719292&forum_id=2#27008530)



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Date: September 14th, 2016 8:41 PM
Author: razzmatazz persian parlor



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2719292&forum_id=2#31409167)



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Date: November 5th, 2014 6:41 PM
Author: tripping cordovan roast beef

not xo stephen saylor's finest hour

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2719292&forum_id=2#26655784)



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Date: November 20th, 2014 12:03 AM
Author: arrogant frum gaping church



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2719292&forum_id=2#26755396)



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Date: November 7th, 2014 9:32 AM
Author: Curious Poppy Mad Cow Disease



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2719292&forum_id=2#26667192)



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Date: November 23rd, 2014 3:59 PM
Author: Curious Poppy Mad Cow Disease



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2719292&forum_id=2#26778934)



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Date: November 23rd, 2014 4:00 PM
Author: electric lettuce hissy fit



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2719292&forum_id=2#26778947)



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Date: December 27th, 2014 11:02 PM
Author: razzmatazz persian parlor



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2719292&forum_id=2#27008203)



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Date: February 8th, 2016 11:45 PM
Author: Transparent piazza milk

also quoted in the most recent SSC post

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2719292&forum_id=2#29785232)