http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J6Nf8oR_YrU

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2mV9UHYy8t0

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TWENTY ONE STREAM SALUTE

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2731962&forum_id=2#26751617)

Anyway, pa would always pound a few cold ones and by the 3rd inning he'd be needin to drain him self.

"Come with me to the trough boy. I'll show you how the real men piss."

TO BE CONTINUED

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When we got to the mens room me pa turned to me and says "boy you're a rail think twink. But today I'm gonna make you a man. Go into the PiGpen and don't come out till yer soaked"

I walked inside and saw a bunch of burly nasty ol pigs jes like me pa. Most of email had their pants round their ankles and was pissin into the trough. I could see their big old backsides just hanging on out an' most of em had 8 inches of meat or more.

TO BE CONTINUED

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"Boy...yer jes like yer pa. Little twink with a boy scout pisswyrm and a dime-sized asshole. But we're gonna change that."

Then he put an oily piss soaked rag in me mouth. The othrr pigs starting hoopin and hollerin. They took me arms and legs and hog tied me on thr floor. Then thr hoisted me up jes like an old carpet and tossed me in th' trough.

TO BE CONTINUED

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"Boy," he said with a heavy sigh. "We gon' work you real good."

He stretched over me so that his belly and chest covered me whole body then started working me nuts real hard.

"HAVE AT HER BOYS" he said. All of a sudden the younger piGs started honkin' and snortin and grabbin' their fuckin' meat. In the next few minutes all I's could remember was jes a blur a' cockmeat,, piss, spit n' pot bellies.Then the pigs grew silent and fell back. The old piG came up to me all serious and said "son..you did yer dad proud. Ya came in dry as a bone and left soakin in me piss lije a real man. Go out there and tell yer pa we made you into man."

I walked into th' vestibule naked and saw me pa. He threw a towel on me and said "come on boy. It's thr 7th inning stretch."

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Should I wait til I get home ot try to do it in my office?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2731962&forum_id=2#27708678)

his sons begin apprenticing around the age of ten, working every job in the piss trough factory so they can take the reigns of the piss trough business when the time is right. the eldest son was the most talented of them all but something about him was always "off." at 18 he left home for the glitz and glamor of kohler wisconsin where he builds those shiny "no-flush" spaceship looking urinals you see in "fusion" restaurants and "upscale lounges." in the house and factory, his name is never spoken aloud.

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otherwise 180

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Meet Australia's Most Notorious Piss Fetishist, Troughman

Some gay clubs have a bathtub for partygoers to piss all over volunteers dubbed "trough boys." In Australian queer culture, our most celebrated trough boy is Leethal Elliot.

Trough boy

An "alternative" pastime whereby aforementioned "trough boy" lies in a urinal trough (usually in a gay nightclub toilets) and proceeds to be pissed on all night by grinning, leather-clad full-bladdered sausage jockeys.

Every budding trough boy needs a trough man, and over the decades Sydney's top "Troughman," Leethal Elliot, has transformed his fetish for piss into a political act.

Like many others, Elliot had his first taste of of niche gay culture at New York's iconic queer bar, Mineshaft. "I heard of a club where guys were into getting fisted, but I'd never seen that done in real life," Elliot tells VICE. "Once I got down in the basement later that night there were about 30 or 40 guys in a piss orgy—it was amazing."

To get down into the basement of Mineshaft in the 1970s, you had to climb down a ladder. Only once you neared the bottom you could see a guy lying in a bathtub, getting pissed on by a small crowd. "I started sucking a guy off—'cause it was like a fucking orgy—and the guy pissed in my mouth and that was it," he says. "A little while later I was in the bathtub myself. It was as easy as that!"

Chances are, no matter how open minded you consider yourself, neither you nor any of your mates are likely to slip into a bathtub anytime soon. Even the need to socialise in dedicated queer spaces seems less of a necessity today, given how visible queerness has become in society. But Elliot is skeptical that fetishes like his will just recede into gay history books.

TROUGH X: XXI PARTY at Club80 in April. All images by Kiarash Zangeneh.

Troughman made an unexpected appearance at Trough's latest party.

"I don't think piss fetishes are old fashioned. I reckon there are more people accepting of this practice than in the 80s," he says. "In the gay community, particularly those whom I have a relationship with (such as the Trough parties), it's really considered cool."

Trough is an infamous gay party series in Sydney and Melbourne. A cursory glance at its Vimeo makes clear that it's speaking to a certain gay audience: glistening muscles, skimpy speedos, or nothing at all. Those attending Melbourne's latest party a few nights ago saw Elliot make a rare appearance at Trough's... trough.

"You just kneel against the urinal and when guys want to piss there's a mouth available," he explains. "I don't see it as psycho-sexual humiliation, because it's not a master-slave type relationship. Instead, for me, it's about mutual respect."

As you can imagine, Elliot is a divisive figure. In Troughman (a short documentary screened as part of the 1998 Mardi Gras) some punters sledge that "he's lost all sense of reality... he's lost the plot." Others speak of past brushes with his mythical, or rather, literally hidden status: "He was there, but it was dark. I heard him," someone recalls. "He said thanks."

Elliot's fetish is one that's obviously not for the faint-hearted, and probably may not entice even your most seemingly liberal mates. But as hard as it may be to connect with, Troughman says there's a point to his overt sexuality.

"I was co-convenor of the gay rights lobby from 1981 to 1985," he explains. "I was involved with the homosexual law reform coalition and I'm an original '78er [meaning that he's an original Mardis Gras protester]. Throughout my whole life I often tried to combine my serious thinking about overt sexuality as being a part of the political visibility that we had in the 80s and getting law reform through."

Elliot's stance is a reminder that queer culture remains political. At this year's Mardi Gras, organisers specifically told other participants not to heckle Opposition Leader Bill Shorten over Labor's asylum policy, specifically addressing what would happen to homosexual asylum seekers held and resettled in countries with homophobic laws. Yet despite this example of line-toeing, Elliot reckons there's still a place for radical queer politics.

"This requires people to keep pushing at the margins. If you want any kind of political movement, it has to house people who are outrageous and the people who are slightly more demure—in the hope that what was once unacceptable becomes palatable... like homosexuality," he says. "That's where I think we went in the 80s. I think we are probably still getting there but we've slowed down a bit."

Elliot's feeling that things have "slowed down" comes at a time when gay marriage and other forms of homonormalisation have lit up mainstream queer discourse in recent years.

"I'm not against it," he says of gay marriage. "I just don't think it's the right direction I want to go in. The last thing I wanted to do was to be like everybody else. I wanted to be me. I wanted my sexuality recognised and accepted and not to be 'acceptable.'"

And that's essentially what Elliot has been doing for decades: pushing the envelope until people start wondering what the fuss was about in the first place. "I still don't care about the privileged gays of our inner cities. I still don't want to be a part of that normalisation. I want to make space for the motor-mechanic in Blacktown who still can't come out," he says.

"I want to create a world where I can be outlandish in my sexuality. One where others who aren't hitting up Oxford Street can still attain liberation in the outer suburbs or in regional Australia. That's what we've still got to achieve—because those people are still getting left behind."

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