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Thoughts on working in house at AMAZON?

Any insights here? Good exit option from Biglaw?
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The consensus seems to be that you will work as hard as bigl...
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Wow that sounds depressing
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If you want an in-house job at a Seattle tech behemoth, Micr...
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  12/09/14
Agreed on all points. Microsoft will have a more sane cultur...
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  12/09/14
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  12/10/14
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careful. it is known to have a toxic corporate culture
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Tough hours? People getting fired?
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hear it's pretty hard charging. its also in seattle.
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  12/09/14
I see what you did there
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the company has a reputation for being very demanding. here'...
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Interesting. Wonder how much those comments apply to lawyer...
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I'm sure compared to big law it isn't so bad
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Actually met and had an interview with the vp / chief counse...
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  12/09/14
Amazon has been doing quite a bit of attorney hiring lately....
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  12/09/14
Your experience at a particular company will depend on the c...
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  12/09/14
Seriously though, how are they going to get biglaw caliber t...
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  12/09/14
They have corporate offices all over. Believe me they have b...
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  12/09/14
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i think they actually struggle...that's why they pay so much...
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  12/10/14
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  12/09/14
I hear it's a jungle over there
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  12/09/14
Amazon lures in people with money and not much else. Expecta...
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  12/09/14
My scoop was that the base salary was lower than average and...
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  12/09/14
Your scoop is wrong. They match biglaw salary at whatever l...
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  12/10/14
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Just seeing this. Nope. Saw two positions and declined to ...
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  12/14/14
Personally know quite a few people there. They all say Bigl...
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This is the constant refrain of any inhouse attorney at a bi...
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Bezos is an ex-banker who is very competitive, runs his comp...
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Read this as Benzo
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  12/10/14
He's also a short, which is the most telling
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I know three lawyers there. They work hard but NOT biglaw...
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Date: December 9th, 2014 4:26 PM
Author: Cyan supple skinny woman antidepressant drug

Any insights here? Good exit option from Biglaw?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2751740&forum_id=2#26894825)



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Date: December 9th, 2014 5:15 PM
Author: White haunting fat ankles garrison

The consensus seems to be that you will work as hard as biglaw and will only receive comparable compensation if/when your stock vests.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2751740&forum_id=2#26895139)



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Date: December 9th, 2014 9:01 PM
Author: Cyan supple skinny woman antidepressant drug

Wow that sounds depressing

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2751740&forum_id=2#26896500)



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Date: December 9th, 2014 11:30 PM
Author: White haunting fat ankles garrison

If you want an in-house job at a Seattle tech behemoth, Microsoft is the more desirable option (although I don't know how the recent round of layoffs has effected LCA).

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2751740&forum_id=2#26897887)



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Date: December 9th, 2014 11:32 PM
Author: beady-eyed frozen hairy legs university

Agreed on all points. Microsoft will have a more sane culture and better comp.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2751740&forum_id=2#26897905)



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Date: December 10th, 2014 10:21 AM
Author: bisexual magenta cruise ship electric furnace

Like you say, recent big changes with that. And generally unsure of the wisdom of boarding a ship that is sinking.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2751740&forum_id=2#26899896)



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Date: December 10th, 2014 11:49 AM
Author: White haunting fat ankles garrison

People have been calling Microsoft a sinking ship for over a decade. I don't see it sinking any time soon.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2751740&forum_id=2#26900367)



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Date: December 9th, 2014 4:28 PM
Author: Umber Indian Lodge Goyim

careful. it is known to have a toxic corporate culture

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2751740&forum_id=2#26894831)



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Date: December 9th, 2014 4:54 PM
Author: Cyan supple skinny woman antidepressant drug

Tough hours? People getting fired?



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2751740&forum_id=2#26895007)



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Date: December 9th, 2014 11:18 PM
Author: beady-eyed frozen hairy legs university

Both

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2751740&forum_id=2#26897754)



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Date: December 9th, 2014 4:29 PM
Author: fuchsia hyperactive cuck

hear it's pretty hard charging. its also in seattle.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2751740&forum_id=2#26894834)



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Date: August 2nd, 2022 2:43 PM
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Date: December 9th, 2014 4:29 PM
Author: Arrogant regret

you can't be in two places at one time

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2751740&forum_id=2#26894836)



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Date: December 9th, 2014 4:38 PM
Author: Cyan supple skinny woman antidepressant drug

I see what you did there

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2751740&forum_id=2#26894887)



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Date: December 9th, 2014 4:51 PM
Author: shaky bateful community account

the company has a reputation for being very demanding. here's a quora thread:

http://www.quora.com/What-is-the-internal-culture-like-at-Amazon

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2751740&forum_id=2#26894973)



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Date: December 9th, 2014 4:57 PM
Author: Cyan supple skinny woman antidepressant drug

Interesting. Wonder how much those comments apply to lawyer positions

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2751740&forum_id=2#26895041)



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Date: December 9th, 2014 5:07 PM
Author: Translucent sticky theater

I'm sure compared to big law it isn't so bad

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2751740&forum_id=2#26895088)



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Date: December 9th, 2014 11:19 PM
Author: beady-eyed frozen hairy legs university

Inhouse can easily be just as bad if you pick the wrong company.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2751740&forum_id=2#26897762)



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Date: August 18th, 2015 1:59 PM
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Date: December 9th, 2014 4:55 PM
Author: vermilion goal in life

robots took most of those seasonal fulfillment center jobs breh

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2751740&forum_id=2#26895013)



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Date: December 9th, 2014 5:03 PM
Author: coral party of the first part

Actually met and had an interview with the vp / chief counsel, seemed okay. New Amazon hq is a blight on Seattle but I'm sure the work would be chill.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2751740&forum_id=2#26895070)



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Date: December 9th, 2014 10:45 PM
Author: beady-eyed frozen hairy legs university

Amazon has been doing quite a bit of attorney hiring lately. But I echo the sentiment of others. I have gotten the feeling that it is not a very positive place to work, in terms of hours and environment. I also gather the compensation isn't so great, and neither are the benefits. For example, I hear bonuses are non-existent. Additionally, the employee insurance contribution is higher than average. In sum, the company is very cheap with regards to its employees, from what I could gather. I passed on applying to the two positions I saw, that I was qualified for.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2751740&forum_id=2#26897373)



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Date: December 9th, 2014 10:49 PM
Author: beady-eyed frozen hairy legs university

Your experience at a particular company will depend on the corporate culture of that company. If the groups/divisions you work with/for, are hard working or have a toxic environment, then you should expect the same as inhouse counsel for that company. Amazon is reputed to have a strongly negative environment, and if true, one should expect the same as inhouse counsel.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2751740&forum_id=2#26897431)



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Date: December 9th, 2014 10:46 PM
Author: titillating laser beams

Seriously though, how are they going to get biglaw caliber talent in Seattle? Good luck with that.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2751740&forum_id=2#26897395)



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Date: December 9th, 2014 10:50 PM
Author: beady-eyed frozen hairy legs university

They have corporate offices all over. Believe me they have been hiring attorneys in a bunch of major markets over the last couple months. I have seen the postings.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2751740&forum_id=2#26897451)



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Date: December 9th, 2014 10:55 PM
Author: bisexual magenta cruise ship electric furnace

Are you serious? Somehow, I suspect that a top technology company in a well reputed second tier city that is considerably cheaper than NYC/LA/SF/SV doesn't have much of a problem getting top talent.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2751740&forum_id=2#26897509)



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Date: December 10th, 2014 11:28 AM
Author: fuchsia hyperactive cuck

i think they actually struggle...that's why they pay so much. seattle is just far away from 90% of Americans.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2751740&forum_id=2#26900234)



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Date: December 9th, 2014 11:33 PM
Author: White haunting fat ankles garrison

This is more retarded than all your Russia trolling combined.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2751740&forum_id=2#26897915)



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Date: December 9th, 2014 10:53 PM
Author: Buck-toothed Stubborn Base

I hear it's a jungle over there

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2751740&forum_id=2#26897482)



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Date: December 9th, 2014 11:24 PM
Author: clear abode

Amazon lures in people with money and not much else. Expectations and pressure are high, employees are relatively expendable, and benefits are ttt, but they'll offer surprisingly high comp once stock bonuses are factored in. The high turnover also make climbing the ranks easier. It's more like a middle ground between biglaw and typical inhouse. You keep the hours and pressure, but also the pay and advancement ops while losing the billable hours and unpredictable fire drills.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2751740&forum_id=2#26897812)



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Date: December 9th, 2014 11:31 PM
Author: beady-eyed frozen hairy legs university

My scoop was that the base salary was lower than average and the stock awards brought you back up to a comparable inhouse position at a large company. But who would want that? More base upfront is almost always better. And Amazon's stock is grossly overvalued, so you may get FUCKED OVER on that front as a new hire. Plus their revenue and profitability have been declining, which doesn't bode well for someone looking for any degree of job security.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2751740&forum_id=2#26897895)



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Date: December 10th, 2014 1:30 AM
Author: Trip thirsty ratface

Your scoop is wrong. They match biglaw salary at whatever level you're at. That is certainly above market for in house comp.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2751740&forum_id=2#26898651)



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Date: December 10th, 2014 10:23 AM
Author: bisexual magenta cruise ship electric furnace

Are you interviewing there and trying to scare off competition? Just looking over your posts ITT and can't help but wonder.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2751740&forum_id=2#26899902)



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Date: December 10th, 2014 11:42 AM
Author: Swollen Orchid Locale

Clearly. EDIT: actually, this smacks of interviewed there, made it to the last round, got dinged and hoping they'll reconsider.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2751740&forum_id=2#26900318)



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Date: December 14th, 2014 1:20 AM
Author: beady-eyed frozen hairy legs university

Just seeing this. Nope. Saw two positions and declined to even apply, given what I gathered from others.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2751740&forum_id=2#26926266)



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Date: December 10th, 2014 1:46 AM
Author: Flatulent senate

Personally know quite a few people there. They all say Biglaw is a joke compared to the hours they put in. People are literally so thinly spread that the only thing you can deal with is the most immediate emergency. They are extremely understaffed from what I hear.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2751740&forum_id=2#26898714)



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Date: December 10th, 2014 11:51 AM
Author: White haunting fat ankles garrison

"People are literally so thinly spread that the only thing you can deal with is the most immediate emergency. They are extremely understaffed from what I hear."

This my understanding as well.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2751740&forum_id=2#26900378)



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Date: December 10th, 2014 11:53 AM
Author: violent brethren organic girlfriend

That is a horrible way to practice, and probably amounts to malpractice in a firm setting.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2751740&forum_id=2#26900389)



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Date: December 10th, 2014 11:56 AM
Author: White haunting fat ankles garrison

One of my sources who most directly complained about this (being told for years they would hire more people, but it never happened) is a habitual complainer, so I take that with a grain of salt. But I have a little bit of direct experience that is consistent with this analysis, and I have heard consistent accounts from others as well.

I don't necessarily think it is a bad thing from the company's perspective in terms of efficiency/leanness, but I don't think I would want to work that way.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2751740&forum_id=2#26900409)



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Date: December 10th, 2014 12:06 PM
Author: fuchsia hyperactive cuck

never ending fire drills about the limitation of loss provisions in cloud computing master service agreements sounds like a really fulfilling job.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2751740&forum_id=2#26900480)



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Date: December 10th, 2014 12:29 PM
Author: shaky bateful community account



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Date: December 10th, 2014 12:32 PM
Author: White haunting fat ankles garrison

Not sure how many "fire drills" they have. I can imagine worse jobs from a subject matter point of view. I think being on the cutting edge of that developing marketplace could be pretty interesting.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2751740&forum_id=2#26900632)



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Date: December 10th, 2014 12:07 PM
Author: violent brethren organic girlfriend

It's one thing to be efficient and lean, but it's another to be so consumed by fire drills that appropriate legal analysis is eschewed.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2751740&forum_id=2#26900484)



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Date: December 10th, 2014 12:38 PM
Author: Swollen Orchid Locale

This is the constant refrain of any inhouse attorney at a big company who doesn't build good relationships with higher ups in the business. It's easy for inhouse to suck if all you ever do is field emails from worker bees who are getting screamed at, and have no access to the people who can actually fix the problem.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2751740&forum_id=2#26900689)



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Date: December 10th, 2014 12:52 PM
Author: White haunting fat ankles garrison

I haven't really heard it from people in other big in-house environments.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2751740&forum_id=2#26900764)



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Date: December 10th, 2014 11:11 AM
Author: shaky bateful community account

Bezos is an ex-banker who is very competitive, runs his company with an iron fist and is trying to replace Walmart. that should tell you everything you need to know about the company.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2751740&forum_id=2#26900155)



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Date: December 10th, 2014 11:32 AM
Author: chest-beating wonderful stain

Read this as Benzo

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2751740&forum_id=2#26900254)



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Date: December 10th, 2014 11:52 AM
Author: poppy piazza voyeur

He's also a short, which is the most telling

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2751740&forum_id=2#26900388)



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Date: December 10th, 2014 11:32 AM
Author: boyish crackhouse cumskin

I know three lawyers there.

They work hard but NOT biglaw hard. Think 9:30-7 or so.

They make almost as much money as biglaw for their class level. a lot more money than Microsoft.

The stock options only become a significant part of compensation after the third year.

The corporate culture is not great, but there is no billing either.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2751740&forum_id=2#26900250)



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Date: December 10th, 2014 11:36 AM
Author: violent brethren organic girlfriend

UNGGHHH no billing

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2751740&forum_id=2#26900279)



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Date: December 10th, 2014 11:46 AM
Author: Swollen Orchid Locale

It's also a pretty good brand name to go somewhere else. So the downside of the bad culture is that you might get a bottom half review and have your advancement limited more than it would be in a less competitive culture. But that doesn't mean your career is in limbo and could implode if you don't catch a break like it does for people getting nobreakfasted.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2751740&forum_id=2#26900352)



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Author: crusty dilemma



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Date: August 18th, 2015 1:50 PM
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Date: August 18th, 2015 1:51 PM
Author: exciting spot

LMAO, I wouldn't recommend it very much at all. haha.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2751740&forum_id=2#28576247)



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Date: August 18th, 2015 2:15 PM
Author: appetizing rose nursing home dog poop

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Date: August 22nd, 2020 3:44 PM
Author: Ruby Shivering Mad Cow Disease Center

What about at an Amazon sub like ring or twitch. Same?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2751740&forum_id=2#40795160)



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Date: August 2nd, 2022 2:38 PM
Author: Glittery plaza



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