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ITT government relations professionals

tell me about a career in government relations. seems li...
Rough-skinned thriller dopamine roommate
  12/17/14
cop some kind of grad degree, man
Rose big hell twinkling uncleanness
  12/21/14
bump
Rough-skinned thriller dopamine roommate
  12/20/14
Pathetic party planner who Calls themselves a lobbyist
Aphrodisiac hateful stead death wish
  12/21/14
also known as the 22 y/o admin assistants hired from GW
Rose big hell twinkling uncleanness
  12/21/14
In only five years, their asses become so large.
provocative locale
  02/07/15
Taking Qs
Rose big hell twinkling uncleanness
  12/21/14
ok op, or not
Rose big hell twinkling uncleanness
  12/21/14
Describe a normal days works. What 're the opportunities for...
Rough-skinned thriller dopamine roommate
  12/21/14
Depends what project I am on and if the governmental body is...
Rose big hell twinkling uncleanness
  12/23/14
so cr
Outnumbered Wrinkle Codepig
  02/07/15
...
Rose big hell twinkling uncleanness
  05/09/16
Any of you still around?
Hyperactive toaster persian
  02/07/15
Just took jerb in area, sup
Outnumbered Wrinkle Codepig
  02/07/15
What is the best path into gov't relations? No Hill experien...
Hyperactive toaster persian
  02/07/15
BEST path is the highest ranking Hill or regulatory agency p...
Outnumbered Wrinkle Codepig
  02/07/15
Trying to cop a Hill internship as a legal fellow for the su...
Hyperactive toaster persian
  02/07/15
Connections >>> everything there. But yes, that is ...
Outnumbered Wrinkle Codepig
  02/07/15
Oh, yeah, I'm at an OK school but BIGLAW firms won't be lini...
Hyperactive toaster persian
  02/07/15
pls respond
Hyperactive toaster persian
  02/07/15
To answer your last Q: I am not sure but that's a great Q. I...
Outnumbered Wrinkle Codepig
  02/07/15
Assuming I can cop a F/T position with a congressman as a co...
Hyperactive toaster persian
  02/07/15
I worked in this capacity for 5-6 years. I started in a sor...
Garnet Histrionic Electric Furnace
  02/07/15
no more or less respectable than corporate attorney, plant-s...
Outnumbered Wrinkle Codepig
  02/07/15
Fair enough, but there is a certain sleazy whiff to being a ...
Garnet Histrionic Electric Furnace
  02/07/15
I would hate to be the lobbyist for like Sally Mae or someth...
Outnumbered Wrinkle Codepig
  02/07/15
Lobbyists are total scum.
Garnet Histrionic Electric Furnace
  02/07/15
TBF there are lobbyists for EVERYTHING. I don't think the lo...
Outnumbered Wrinkle Codepig
  02/07/15
Yeah, they're just as bad. Don't kid yourself. Some of the...
Garnet Histrionic Electric Furnace
  02/07/15
I see absolutely no moral superiority compared to many white...
Outnumbered Wrinkle Codepig
  02/07/15
You don't have to be prole, you just need a little experienc...
Garnet Histrionic Electric Furnace
  02/07/15
Fair enough. I can't speak to what you saw. I've seen a mix....
Outnumbered Wrinkle Codepig
  02/07/15
I work for a big biotech company doing training and complian...
Garnet Histrionic Electric Furnace
  02/07/15
graduate degree?
Outnumbered Wrinkle Codepig
  02/07/15
Nope.
Garnet Histrionic Electric Furnace
  02/07/15


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Date: December 17th, 2014 7:25 PM
Author: Rough-skinned thriller dopamine roommate

tell me about a career in government relations.

seems like a fairly stable career with good job security and can pay well once past the entry level position.

no jd

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2759400&forum_id=2#26951530)



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Date: December 21st, 2014 12:03 AM
Author: Rose big hell twinkling uncleanness

cop some kind of grad degree, man

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2759400&forum_id=2#26972256)



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Date: December 20th, 2014 11:03 PM
Author: Rough-skinned thriller dopamine roommate

bump

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2759400&forum_id=2#26971879)



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Date: December 21st, 2014 12:02 AM
Author: Aphrodisiac hateful stead death wish

Pathetic party planner who Calls themselves a lobbyist

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2759400&forum_id=2#26972250)



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Date: December 21st, 2014 12:03 AM
Author: Rose big hell twinkling uncleanness

also known as the 22 y/o admin assistants hired from GW

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2759400&forum_id=2#26972254)



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Date: February 7th, 2015 5:40 PM
Author: provocative locale

In only five years, their asses become so large.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2759400&forum_id=2#27269633)



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Date: December 21st, 2014 12:03 AM
Author: Rose big hell twinkling uncleanness

Taking Qs

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2759400&forum_id=2#26972252)



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Date: December 21st, 2014 12:11 AM
Author: Rose big hell twinkling uncleanness

ok op, or not

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2759400&forum_id=2#26972309)



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Date: December 21st, 2014 12:02 PM
Author: Rough-skinned thriller dopamine roommate

Describe a normal days works. What 're the opportunities for advancement? It is possible to go gov then government relations and vice versa? Whats the easiest way to break into field? TY

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2759400&forum_id=2#26973995)



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Date: December 23rd, 2014 12:56 PM
Author: Rose big hell twinkling uncleanness

Depends what project I am on and if the governmental body is working that day.

At the lowest levels, it's very administrative. With a little experience you might become a "specialist" or "associate" and then after 5 years a manager, followed by director, then VP.

The best government relations professionals, along with the highest paying/most interesting jobs, go to people with significant government experience. So yes, it is not only possible, but desirable.

Easiest way is to work for an elected representative or regulatory agency, make a name for yourself and/or get substantive experience, then at the right time move into a lobbying shop.

The route that I think more JDs should consider is spinning the degree as more of a policy/writing/negotiations/legislative/regulatory soup kind of training. MPPs and MPAs lack the coursework and certain personality type that translates well into some government relations jobs. Tons of JDs. If you can get your foot in the door you can grow in the industry even without having been a legislative director in Congress. You might not be working at a private law firm's GR shop, but anyone with good experience, a graduate degree, the basic skill set (extroverted, good communication and diplomatic skills, legislative/regulatory/policy understanding), and the drive to move upward can do pretty well.

Just go on LinkedIn and you will find plenty of JDs who did a few years in the traditional practice of law and moved into GR.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2759400&forum_id=2#26986471)



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Date: February 7th, 2015 5:30 PM
Author: Outnumbered Wrinkle Codepig

so cr

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2759400&forum_id=2#27269594)



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Date: May 9th, 2016 9:21 PM
Author: Rose big hell twinkling uncleanness



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2759400&forum_id=2#30443308)



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Date: February 7th, 2015 5:30 PM
Author: Hyperactive toaster persian

Any of you still around?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2759400&forum_id=2#27269595)



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Date: February 7th, 2015 5:32 PM
Author: Outnumbered Wrinkle Codepig

Just took jerb in area, sup

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2759400&forum_id=2#27269599)



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Date: February 7th, 2015 5:33 PM
Author: Hyperactive toaster persian

What is the best path into gov't relations? No Hill experience yet but still in law school.

Hill jerb for a few years?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2759400&forum_id=2#27269604)



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Date: February 7th, 2015 5:36 PM
Author: Outnumbered Wrinkle Codepig

BEST path is the highest ranking Hill or regulatory agency position you can swing.

Easiest, probably that path too, but being some legislative assistant to a no-name Congressman with a BA from TTT U will not get you all that far, IME.

I worked for a private firm in admin/regulatory, worked closely with the government, and just networked.

Try to cop a leg counsel gig on the Hill if you can afford it

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2759400&forum_id=2#27269620)



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Date: February 7th, 2015 5:38 PM
Author: Hyperactive toaster persian

Trying to cop a Hill internship as a legal fellow for the summer (lots of interviews set up, inc. one senator and four congressmen). I assume if I do it this summer, I can do it the next, and maybe get a full time offer after graduation. Do you think that's true?

What do you mean by "if you can afford it"?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2759400&forum_id=2#27269629)



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Date: February 7th, 2015 5:43 PM
Author: Outnumbered Wrinkle Codepig

Connections >>> everything there. But yes, that is a good way.

Afford it as in some people might turn down higher paying firm jobs to start at whatever leg counsel makes on the hill

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2759400&forum_id=2#27269650)



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Date: February 7th, 2015 5:46 PM
Author: Hyperactive toaster persian

Oh, yeah, I'm at an OK school but BIGLAW firms won't be lining up to hire me. The point of taking these unpaid internships (over paid work) would be to meet people who could give me a full time job. School will fund me over the summers anyway.

Say, spend three or four years on the Hill as a "legislative assistant" or "legislative counsel" then . . .? Do people apply for firm gov't relations jobs or are they recruited by headhunters or the firms themselves?

Also, it is more preftigious to join a law firm with a gov't relations portfolio or to join a place like, e.g., the Consumers Banking Association?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2759400&forum_id=2#27269661)



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Date: February 7th, 2015 5:52 PM
Author: Hyperactive toaster persian

pls respond

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2759400&forum_id=2#27269698)



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Date: February 7th, 2015 5:53 PM
Author: Outnumbered Wrinkle Codepig

To answer your last Q: I am not sure but that's a great Q. I think either works, but I'm not sure. But that's a great Q.

Leads me into my next point: doing what you described makes sense, but be prepared to network like a mofo. LinkedIn is your friend. That will help figuring out moving from what you end up doing into what you want.

Headhunters look for people with experience but also they are posted all of the time. Looking for "legislative" experience and "4 years on the hill" and stuff like that.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2759400&forum_id=2#27269701)



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Date: February 7th, 2015 5:56 PM
Author: Hyperactive toaster persian

Assuming I can cop a F/T position with a congressman as a counsel (or whatever they want to call me -- someone with a J.D., at least), and do a good job for a few years, will I be able to bounce around jobs paying ~$100k in the D.C. area for the rest of my life?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2759400&forum_id=2#27269710)



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Date: February 7th, 2015 5:40 PM
Author: Garnet Histrionic Electric Furnace

I worked in this capacity for 5-6 years. I started in a sort of admin/assistant role and quickly became a project manager when my boss realized I was not an idiot.

Our firm basically greased the wheels between the politicians who awarded contracts and the businesses who wanted them. Honestly, I thought the work was really interesting. I had to learn a ton of technical shit about anything you can imagine in a short amount of time. The money was good too.

On the downside, the work is extremely backstabby and political, even within your own office. You also have to deal with every asshole in town, and the work isn't at the highest end of respectability.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2759400&forum_id=2#27269636)



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Date: February 7th, 2015 5:41 PM
Author: Outnumbered Wrinkle Codepig

no more or less respectable than corporate attorney, plant-shutting consultant, Medicare-fraud doc, etc.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2759400&forum_id=2#27269642)



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Date: February 7th, 2015 5:43 PM
Author: Garnet Histrionic Electric Furnace

Fair enough, but there is a certain sleazy whiff to being a government affairs guy.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2759400&forum_id=2#27269649)



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Date: February 7th, 2015 5:43 PM
Author: Outnumbered Wrinkle Codepig

I would hate to be the lobbyist for like Sally Mae or something

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2759400&forum_id=2#27269652)



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Date: February 7th, 2015 5:45 PM
Author: Garnet Histrionic Electric Furnace

Lobbyists are total scum.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2759400&forum_id=2#27269654)



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Date: February 7th, 2015 5:48 PM
Author: Outnumbered Wrinkle Codepig

TBF there are lobbyists for EVERYTHING. I don't think the lobbyists for rural hospitals or science research = financial industry/defense spending, etc

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2759400&forum_id=2#27269672)



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Date: February 7th, 2015 5:49 PM
Author: Garnet Histrionic Electric Furnace

Yeah, they're just as bad. Don't kid yourself. Some of the worst people I've ever met worked for Hospice.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2759400&forum_id=2#27269681)



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Date: February 7th, 2015 5:51 PM
Author: Outnumbered Wrinkle Codepig

I see absolutely no moral superiority compared to many white collar jobs, so I won't necessarily disagree, but I'm also not prole enough to just hook, line, and sinker accept some political talking point about lobbying being the devil while ignoring attorneys and consultants and a litany of other "prestige" careers which do measurable harm to the economy and people's lives

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2759400&forum_id=2#27269691)



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Date: February 7th, 2015 5:58 PM
Author: Garnet Histrionic Electric Furnace

You don't have to be prole, you just need a little experience.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2759400&forum_id=2#27269718)



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Date: February 7th, 2015 5:59 PM
Author: Outnumbered Wrinkle Codepig

Fair enough. I can't speak to what you saw. I've seen a mix. Same for my time with attorneys.

What do you do now?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2759400&forum_id=2#27269721)



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Date: February 7th, 2015 6:04 PM
Author: Garnet Histrionic Electric Furnace

I work for a big biotech company doing training and compliance stuff.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2759400&forum_id=2#27269747)



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Date: February 7th, 2015 6:10 PM
Author: Outnumbered Wrinkle Codepig

graduate degree?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2759400&forum_id=2#27269792)



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Date: February 7th, 2015 6:11 PM
Author: Garnet Histrionic Electric Furnace

Nope.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2759400&forum_id=2#27269797)