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tell me about a career in government relations. seems li...
Brilliant alcoholic digit ratio degenerate
  12/17/14
cop some kind of grad degree, man
Cracking smoky tanning salon tank
  12/21/14
bump
Brilliant alcoholic digit ratio degenerate
  12/20/14
Pathetic party planner who Calls themselves a lobbyist
Thriller rigor property
  12/21/14
also known as the 22 y/o admin assistants hired from GW
Cracking smoky tanning salon tank
  12/21/14
In only five years, their asses become so large.
spectacular people who are hurt mexican
  02/07/15
Taking Qs
Cracking smoky tanning salon tank
  12/21/14
ok op, or not
Cracking smoky tanning salon tank
  12/21/14
Describe a normal days works. What 're the opportunities for...
Brilliant alcoholic digit ratio degenerate
  12/21/14
Depends what project I am on and if the governmental body is...
Cracking smoky tanning salon tank
  12/23/14
so cr
ruby trip travel guidebook spot
  02/07/15
...
Cracking smoky tanning salon tank
  05/09/16
Any of you still around?
chestnut senate milk
  02/07/15
Just took jerb in area, sup
ruby trip travel guidebook spot
  02/07/15
What is the best path into gov't relations? No Hill experien...
chestnut senate milk
  02/07/15
BEST path is the highest ranking Hill or regulatory agency p...
ruby trip travel guidebook spot
  02/07/15
Trying to cop a Hill internship as a legal fellow for the su...
chestnut senate milk
  02/07/15
Connections >>> everything there. But yes, that is ...
ruby trip travel guidebook spot
  02/07/15
Oh, yeah, I'm at an OK school but BIGLAW firms won't be lini...
chestnut senate milk
  02/07/15
pls respond
chestnut senate milk
  02/07/15
To answer your last Q: I am not sure but that's a great Q. I...
ruby trip travel guidebook spot
  02/07/15
Assuming I can cop a F/T position with a congressman as a co...
chestnut senate milk
  02/07/15
I worked in this capacity for 5-6 years. I started in a sor...
charismatic jap
  02/07/15
no more or less respectable than corporate attorney, plant-s...
ruby trip travel guidebook spot
  02/07/15
Fair enough, but there is a certain sleazy whiff to being a ...
charismatic jap
  02/07/15
I would hate to be the lobbyist for like Sally Mae or someth...
ruby trip travel guidebook spot
  02/07/15
Lobbyists are total scum.
charismatic jap
  02/07/15
TBF there are lobbyists for EVERYTHING. I don't think the lo...
ruby trip travel guidebook spot
  02/07/15
Yeah, they're just as bad. Don't kid yourself. Some of the...
charismatic jap
  02/07/15
I see absolutely no moral superiority compared to many white...
ruby trip travel guidebook spot
  02/07/15
You don't have to be prole, you just need a little experienc...
charismatic jap
  02/07/15
Fair enough. I can't speak to what you saw. I've seen a mix....
ruby trip travel guidebook spot
  02/07/15
I work for a big biotech company doing training and complian...
charismatic jap
  02/07/15
graduate degree?
ruby trip travel guidebook spot
  02/07/15
Nope.
charismatic jap
  02/07/15


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Date: December 17th, 2014 7:25 PM
Author: Brilliant alcoholic digit ratio degenerate

tell me about a career in government relations.

seems like a fairly stable career with good job security and can pay well once past the entry level position.

no jd

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2759400&forum_id=2#26951530)



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Date: December 21st, 2014 12:03 AM
Author: Cracking smoky tanning salon tank

cop some kind of grad degree, man

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2759400&forum_id=2#26972256)



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Date: December 20th, 2014 11:03 PM
Author: Brilliant alcoholic digit ratio degenerate

bump

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2759400&forum_id=2#26971879)



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Date: December 21st, 2014 12:02 AM
Author: Thriller rigor property

Pathetic party planner who Calls themselves a lobbyist

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2759400&forum_id=2#26972250)



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Date: December 21st, 2014 12:03 AM
Author: Cracking smoky tanning salon tank

also known as the 22 y/o admin assistants hired from GW

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2759400&forum_id=2#26972254)



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Date: February 7th, 2015 5:40 PM
Author: spectacular people who are hurt mexican

In only five years, their asses become so large.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2759400&forum_id=2#27269633)



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Date: December 21st, 2014 12:03 AM
Author: Cracking smoky tanning salon tank

Taking Qs

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2759400&forum_id=2#26972252)



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Date: December 21st, 2014 12:11 AM
Author: Cracking smoky tanning salon tank

ok op, or not

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2759400&forum_id=2#26972309)



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Date: December 21st, 2014 12:02 PM
Author: Brilliant alcoholic digit ratio degenerate

Describe a normal days works. What 're the opportunities for advancement? It is possible to go gov then government relations and vice versa? Whats the easiest way to break into field? TY

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2759400&forum_id=2#26973995)



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Date: December 23rd, 2014 12:56 PM
Author: Cracking smoky tanning salon tank

Depends what project I am on and if the governmental body is working that day.

At the lowest levels, it's very administrative. With a little experience you might become a "specialist" or "associate" and then after 5 years a manager, followed by director, then VP.

The best government relations professionals, along with the highest paying/most interesting jobs, go to people with significant government experience. So yes, it is not only possible, but desirable.

Easiest way is to work for an elected representative or regulatory agency, make a name for yourself and/or get substantive experience, then at the right time move into a lobbying shop.

The route that I think more JDs should consider is spinning the degree as more of a policy/writing/negotiations/legislative/regulatory soup kind of training. MPPs and MPAs lack the coursework and certain personality type that translates well into some government relations jobs. Tons of JDs. If you can get your foot in the door you can grow in the industry even without having been a legislative director in Congress. You might not be working at a private law firm's GR shop, but anyone with good experience, a graduate degree, the basic skill set (extroverted, good communication and diplomatic skills, legislative/regulatory/policy understanding), and the drive to move upward can do pretty well.

Just go on LinkedIn and you will find plenty of JDs who did a few years in the traditional practice of law and moved into GR.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2759400&forum_id=2#26986471)



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Date: February 7th, 2015 5:30 PM
Author: ruby trip travel guidebook spot

so cr

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2759400&forum_id=2#27269594)



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Date: May 9th, 2016 9:21 PM
Author: Cracking smoky tanning salon tank



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2759400&forum_id=2#30443308)



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Date: February 7th, 2015 5:30 PM
Author: chestnut senate milk

Any of you still around?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2759400&forum_id=2#27269595)



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Date: February 7th, 2015 5:32 PM
Author: ruby trip travel guidebook spot

Just took jerb in area, sup

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2759400&forum_id=2#27269599)



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Date: February 7th, 2015 5:33 PM
Author: chestnut senate milk

What is the best path into gov't relations? No Hill experience yet but still in law school.

Hill jerb for a few years?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2759400&forum_id=2#27269604)



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Date: February 7th, 2015 5:36 PM
Author: ruby trip travel guidebook spot

BEST path is the highest ranking Hill or regulatory agency position you can swing.

Easiest, probably that path too, but being some legislative assistant to a no-name Congressman with a BA from TTT U will not get you all that far, IME.

I worked for a private firm in admin/regulatory, worked closely with the government, and just networked.

Try to cop a leg counsel gig on the Hill if you can afford it

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2759400&forum_id=2#27269620)



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Date: February 7th, 2015 5:38 PM
Author: chestnut senate milk

Trying to cop a Hill internship as a legal fellow for the summer (lots of interviews set up, inc. one senator and four congressmen). I assume if I do it this summer, I can do it the next, and maybe get a full time offer after graduation. Do you think that's true?

What do you mean by "if you can afford it"?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2759400&forum_id=2#27269629)



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Date: February 7th, 2015 5:43 PM
Author: ruby trip travel guidebook spot

Connections >>> everything there. But yes, that is a good way.

Afford it as in some people might turn down higher paying firm jobs to start at whatever leg counsel makes on the hill

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2759400&forum_id=2#27269650)



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Date: February 7th, 2015 5:46 PM
Author: chestnut senate milk

Oh, yeah, I'm at an OK school but BIGLAW firms won't be lining up to hire me. The point of taking these unpaid internships (over paid work) would be to meet people who could give me a full time job. School will fund me over the summers anyway.

Say, spend three or four years on the Hill as a "legislative assistant" or "legislative counsel" then . . .? Do people apply for firm gov't relations jobs or are they recruited by headhunters or the firms themselves?

Also, it is more preftigious to join a law firm with a gov't relations portfolio or to join a place like, e.g., the Consumers Banking Association?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2759400&forum_id=2#27269661)



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Date: February 7th, 2015 5:52 PM
Author: chestnut senate milk

pls respond

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2759400&forum_id=2#27269698)



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Date: February 7th, 2015 5:53 PM
Author: ruby trip travel guidebook spot

To answer your last Q: I am not sure but that's a great Q. I think either works, but I'm not sure. But that's a great Q.

Leads me into my next point: doing what you described makes sense, but be prepared to network like a mofo. LinkedIn is your friend. That will help figuring out moving from what you end up doing into what you want.

Headhunters look for people with experience but also they are posted all of the time. Looking for "legislative" experience and "4 years on the hill" and stuff like that.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2759400&forum_id=2#27269701)



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Date: February 7th, 2015 5:56 PM
Author: chestnut senate milk

Assuming I can cop a F/T position with a congressman as a counsel (or whatever they want to call me -- someone with a J.D., at least), and do a good job for a few years, will I be able to bounce around jobs paying ~$100k in the D.C. area for the rest of my life?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2759400&forum_id=2#27269710)



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Date: February 7th, 2015 5:40 PM
Author: charismatic jap

I worked in this capacity for 5-6 years. I started in a sort of admin/assistant role and quickly became a project manager when my boss realized I was not an idiot.

Our firm basically greased the wheels between the politicians who awarded contracts and the businesses who wanted them. Honestly, I thought the work was really interesting. I had to learn a ton of technical shit about anything you can imagine in a short amount of time. The money was good too.

On the downside, the work is extremely backstabby and political, even within your own office. You also have to deal with every asshole in town, and the work isn't at the highest end of respectability.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2759400&forum_id=2#27269636)



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Date: February 7th, 2015 5:41 PM
Author: ruby trip travel guidebook spot

no more or less respectable than corporate attorney, plant-shutting consultant, Medicare-fraud doc, etc.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2759400&forum_id=2#27269642)



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Date: February 7th, 2015 5:43 PM
Author: charismatic jap

Fair enough, but there is a certain sleazy whiff to being a government affairs guy.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2759400&forum_id=2#27269649)



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Date: February 7th, 2015 5:43 PM
Author: ruby trip travel guidebook spot

I would hate to be the lobbyist for like Sally Mae or something

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2759400&forum_id=2#27269652)



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Date: February 7th, 2015 5:45 PM
Author: charismatic jap

Lobbyists are total scum.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2759400&forum_id=2#27269654)



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Date: February 7th, 2015 5:48 PM
Author: ruby trip travel guidebook spot

TBF there are lobbyists for EVERYTHING. I don't think the lobbyists for rural hospitals or science research = financial industry/defense spending, etc

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2759400&forum_id=2#27269672)



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Date: February 7th, 2015 5:49 PM
Author: charismatic jap

Yeah, they're just as bad. Don't kid yourself. Some of the worst people I've ever met worked for Hospice.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2759400&forum_id=2#27269681)



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Date: February 7th, 2015 5:51 PM
Author: ruby trip travel guidebook spot

I see absolutely no moral superiority compared to many white collar jobs, so I won't necessarily disagree, but I'm also not prole enough to just hook, line, and sinker accept some political talking point about lobbying being the devil while ignoring attorneys and consultants and a litany of other "prestige" careers which do measurable harm to the economy and people's lives

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2759400&forum_id=2#27269691)



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Date: February 7th, 2015 5:58 PM
Author: charismatic jap

You don't have to be prole, you just need a little experience.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2759400&forum_id=2#27269718)



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Date: February 7th, 2015 5:59 PM
Author: ruby trip travel guidebook spot

Fair enough. I can't speak to what you saw. I've seen a mix. Same for my time with attorneys.

What do you do now?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2759400&forum_id=2#27269721)



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Date: February 7th, 2015 6:04 PM
Author: charismatic jap

I work for a big biotech company doing training and compliance stuff.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2759400&forum_id=2#27269747)



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Date: February 7th, 2015 6:10 PM
Author: ruby trip travel guidebook spot

graduate degree?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2759400&forum_id=2#27269792)



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Date: February 7th, 2015 6:11 PM
Author: charismatic jap

Nope.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2759400&forum_id=2#27269797)