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IP Litigation Dying?

Get out now brothers while there is still time.
chestnut range
  01/06/15
don't worry bro, this thread has been made several times sin...
heady frisky pit
  01/06/15
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heady frisky pit
  02/23/15
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geriatric stage
  01/06/15
have you started to see slow-down already?
chestnut range
  01/06/15
speaking for myself, our firm has gotten three huge cases la...
Cyan community account
  01/07/15
v10?
chestnut range
  01/07/15
V30 again, group is crazy busy now (busy as ever), but sh...
Cyan community account
  01/07/15
my firm too, brother. i think i have a guess where you're a...
chestnut range
  01/07/15
not sure what "O" means also prefer not to out ...
Cyan community account
  01/07/15
yeah, i know my firm is pushing really heavy on patent offic...
chestnut range
  01/07/15
get your reg number and do IPRs, CBMs, and PGRs. the flam...
big dark boistinker
  01/06/15
this has been known for at least the last 1-2 years
Fragrant Plaza Sneaky Criminal
  01/06/15
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geriatric stage
  01/06/15
...
Appetizing burgundy senate
  01/06/15
PIVOT TO TRADEMARK! PIVOT TO TRADEMAGAGH AGHHHHhhhhH111 !!!
laughsome coral goyim temple
  01/06/15
lol
Fragrant Plaza Sneaky Criminal
  01/06/15
...
laughsome coral goyim temple
  01/07/15
even for us bros with advanced degrees in EE/CS?
Electric sexy theater stage mexican
  01/06/15
yes... patent lit. has maybe 5 years left tops.
chestnut range
  01/06/15
Depends, is your name Bill Lee?
Talented greedy church building
  01/06/15
Wrong he is fraud and lies
laughsome coral goyim temple
  01/06/15
nah Bill is a good bro
big dark boistinker
  01/06/15
He's retired bro
laughsome coral goyim temple
  01/06/15
doesn't change the post
big dark boistinker
  01/07/15
BIG ANDA lit will never die. Everything else is fucked.
Carnelian Haunted Graveyard
  01/07/15
yeah. esp. EE type work when companies realizse BIGPATENTLIT...
chestnut range
  01/07/15
the end of the rockstar consortium can't be good for patent ...
Cyan community account
  01/07/15
it's going to be smaller, by 10-30%, when you account for th...
Cyan community account
  01/07/15
Lol at the aspie tech lawyers that can't write or communicat...
laughsome coral goyim temple
  01/07/15
what firms are hottest now for patent lit?
chestnut range
  01/07/15
the usual...minus Irell
Cyan community account
  01/07/15
others of the usual suspects aren't so hot either at the mom...
Pontificating mental disorder
  01/07/15
i heard weil/wilmer are slow. i wonder how kirkland/latham/...
chestnut range
  01/07/15
trending shitty i'd guess.
Pontificating mental disorder
  01/07/15
(Mckool associate)
laughsome coral goyim temple
  01/07/15
McKool will always have work because they take anything. Th...
Floppy Garrison Mediation
  01/07/15
elaborate? know a buddy with a 1L summer offer there.
house-broken sepia jewess
  01/07/15
they're solid firm. but, in addition to traditional IP part...
chestnut range
  01/07/15
(McKool associate)
Floppy Garrison Mediation
  01/08/15
...
mauve ungodly round eye
  04/26/15
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mauve ungodly round eye
  05/11/15


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Date: January 6th, 2015 11:18 PM
Author: chestnut range

Get out now brothers while there is still time.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2776427&forum_id=2#27069674)



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Date: January 6th, 2015 11:18 PM
Author: heady frisky pit

don't worry bro, this thread has been made several times since 2011

We all left years ago thanks to :D

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2776427&forum_id=2#27069677)



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Date: February 23rd, 2015 7:58 PM
Author: heady frisky pit



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2776427&forum_id=2#27378772)



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Date: January 6th, 2015 11:19 PM
Author: geriatric stage



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2776427&forum_id=2#27069678)



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Date: January 6th, 2015 11:22 PM
Author: chestnut range

have you started to see slow-down already?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2776427&forum_id=2#27069694)



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Date: January 7th, 2015 12:14 AM
Author: Cyan community account

speaking for myself, our firm has gotten three huge cases last year, but all three may end by mid-year; will be very curious how things shake out after that happens

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2776427&forum_id=2#27069994)



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Date: January 7th, 2015 12:44 AM
Author: chestnut range

v10?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2776427&forum_id=2#27070179)



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Date: January 7th, 2015 12:45 AM
Author: Cyan community account

V30

again, group is crazy busy now (busy as ever), but shit could really slow down by mid/late 2015

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2776427&forum_id=2#27070194)



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Date: January 7th, 2015 12:48 AM
Author: chestnut range

my firm too, brother. i think i have a guess where you're at... O?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2776427&forum_id=2#27070212)



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Date: January 7th, 2015 12:50 AM
Author: Cyan community account

not sure what "O" means

also prefer not to out self; in any event, i think most patent groups are doing fine right now and probably for the next year. New filings are down, but cases often take 2-4 years to work their way through. We'll start seeing where things stand in 2016

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2776427&forum_id=2#27070232)



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Date: January 7th, 2015 12:51 AM
Author: chestnut range

yeah, i know my firm is pushing really heavy on patent office practice now... hopefully that replaces some of the traditional lit work in decline

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2776427&forum_id=2#27070245)



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Date: January 6th, 2015 11:24 PM
Author: big dark boistinker

get your reg number and do IPRs, CBMs, and PGRs.

the flame that non-tech backgrounds can do IP lit is now officially dead.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2776427&forum_id=2#27069707)



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Date: January 6th, 2015 11:26 PM
Author: Fragrant Plaza Sneaky Criminal

this has been known for at least the last 1-2 years

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2776427&forum_id=2#27069717)



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Date: January 6th, 2015 11:27 PM
Author: geriatric stage



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2776427&forum_id=2#27069720)



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Date: January 6th, 2015 11:30 PM
Author: Appetizing burgundy senate



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2776427&forum_id=2#27069747)



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Date: January 6th, 2015 11:33 PM
Author: laughsome coral goyim temple

PIVOT TO TRADEMARK! PIVOT TO TRADEMAGAGH AGHHHHhhhhH111 !!!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2776427&forum_id=2#27069763)



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Date: January 6th, 2015 11:36 PM
Author: Fragrant Plaza Sneaky Criminal

lol

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2776427&forum_id=2#27069779)



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Date: January 7th, 2015 2:07 PM
Author: laughsome coral goyim temple



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2776427&forum_id=2#27073472)



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Date: January 6th, 2015 11:34 PM
Author: Electric sexy theater stage mexican

even for us bros with advanced degrees in EE/CS?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2776427&forum_id=2#27069769)



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Date: January 6th, 2015 11:35 PM
Author: chestnut range

yes... patent lit. has maybe 5 years left tops.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2776427&forum_id=2#27069777)



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Date: January 6th, 2015 11:48 PM
Author: Talented greedy church building

Depends, is your name Bill Lee?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2776427&forum_id=2#27069856)



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Date: January 6th, 2015 11:51 PM
Author: laughsome coral goyim temple

Wrong he is fraud and lies

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2776427&forum_id=2#27069871)



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Date: January 6th, 2015 11:54 PM
Author: big dark boistinker

nah Bill is a good bro

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2776427&forum_id=2#27069893)



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Date: January 6th, 2015 11:55 PM
Author: laughsome coral goyim temple

He's retired bro

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2776427&forum_id=2#27069904)



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Date: January 7th, 2015 12:00 AM
Author: big dark boistinker

doesn't change the post

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2776427&forum_id=2#27069930)



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Date: January 7th, 2015 12:00 AM
Author: Carnelian Haunted Graveyard

BIG ANDA lit will never die. Everything else is fucked.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2776427&forum_id=2#27069936)



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Date: January 7th, 2015 12:03 AM
Author: chestnut range

yeah. esp. EE type work when companies realizse BIGPATENTLIT is not worth it and just enter into massive cross-licenses.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2776427&forum_id=2#27069944)



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Date: January 7th, 2015 12:14 AM
Author: Cyan community account

the end of the rockstar consortium can't be good for patent lit

that's thousands of telecomm patents, now off the litigation market ... at least for now

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2776427&forum_id=2#27069997)



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Date: January 7th, 2015 12:11 AM
Author: Cyan community account

it's going to be smaller, by 10-30%, when you account for the fact that some of it is just going to move forums (i.e., to the PTO)

recent case law, especially damages and 101, are going to cut into small troll work -- those trolls constantly assert shitty internet patents. but small troll work was never that time-consuming or profitable

what will remain are real competitor v competitor cases or larger trolls with better (more technical) patents and resources

patent lit isn't dying -- more and more patents get issued every year. But it will be smaller and become more technical with the nature of the patents that are litigated and a move to the PTO. This shift will mean that non-techies will largely be out of the field

given that patent lit was crazy busy for the past 5 years, a 10-30% drop off just means it will be merely a busy practice area, not a crazy busy area that required adding staff from general lit and even transactional to meet demand. There may be a drop off in headcount of patent litigators -- expect the drop off to come from non-tech lawyers or tech lawyers with the wrong background (e.g., civil engineering)



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2776427&forum_id=2#27069977)



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Date: January 7th, 2015 12:19 AM
Author: laughsome coral goyim temple

Lol at the aspie tech lawyers that can't write or communicate with other people

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2776427&forum_id=2#27070025)



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Date: January 7th, 2015 12:44 AM
Author: chestnut range

what firms are hottest now for patent lit?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2776427&forum_id=2#27070183)



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Date: January 7th, 2015 12:45 AM
Author: Cyan community account

the usual...minus Irell

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2776427&forum_id=2#27070198)



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Date: January 7th, 2015 12:50 AM
Author: Pontificating mental disorder

others of the usual suspects aren't so hot either at the moment.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2776427&forum_id=2#27070243)



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Date: January 7th, 2015 12:53 AM
Author: chestnut range

i heard weil/wilmer are slow. i wonder how kirkland/latham/mckool are doing...

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2776427&forum_id=2#27070265)



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Date: January 7th, 2015 12:54 AM
Author: Pontificating mental disorder

trending shitty i'd guess.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2776427&forum_id=2#27070271)



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Date: January 7th, 2015 12:54 AM
Author: laughsome coral goyim temple

(Mckool associate)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2776427&forum_id=2#27070275)



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Date: January 7th, 2015 12:55 AM
Author: Floppy Garrison Mediation

McKool will always have work because they take anything. They are the hungry Texas shitlawyers of patent lit.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2776427&forum_id=2#27070279)



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Date: January 7th, 2015 4:04 PM
Author: house-broken sepia jewess

elaborate?

know a buddy with a 1L summer offer there.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2776427&forum_id=2#27074202)



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Date: January 7th, 2015 4:11 PM
Author: chestnut range

they're solid firm. but, in addition to traditional IP partners, they take on contingency troll cases as well (e.g., virnetx, paice etc.). and they've been very successful with those in ED Tex.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2776427&forum_id=2#27074242)



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Date: January 8th, 2015 7:43 PM
Author: Floppy Garrison Mediation

(McKool associate)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2776427&forum_id=2#27081947)



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Date: April 26th, 2015 7:01 PM
Author: mauve ungodly round eye



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2776427&forum_id=2#27765971)



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Date: May 11th, 2015 6:41 AM
Author: mauve ungodly round eye



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2776427&forum_id=2#27865456)