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confirmed: IP Lit market is DEAD

LJL. Literally no cases being filed. Companies realize IP ...
cobalt point
  01/23/15
Stats?
harsh laughsome gas station
  01/23/15
i am shitcanned ip lit associate at "top" ip lit f...
cobalt point
  01/23/15
out the firm. what do you have to lose?
Jet piazza
  01/23/15
Being outed as flame
cocky digit ratio generalized bond
  01/23/15
yerp
Jet piazza
  01/23/15
pretty shitty how DROVES of associates went into IP lit over...
Jet piazza
  01/23/15
happening now at almost every biglaw firm. these associates...
cobalt point
  01/23/15
i'm just a shittigator, but... seems like ip shittigators...
Tripping knife heaven
  01/23/15
lol, no. IP lit people spend shitloads of time drafting inv...
Jet piazza
  01/23/15
i always avoided the ip people.
Tripping knife heaven
  01/23/15
as a patent barred dude who has avoided ip lit as much as po...
House-broken metal laser beams
  01/23/15
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boyish regret
  01/23/15
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Jet piazza
  01/23/15
This is the real problem with litigation -- it encourages ri...
cheese-eating parlor foreskin
  01/23/15
Just do move to Stalingrad, bro.
Mildly autistic space mexican
  01/23/15
i thought you lived in Russia?
Jet piazza
  01/23/15
...
Jet piazza
  01/24/15
Ljl litigators. As a comma chaser, I can always find another...
stirring chad
  01/23/15
Talking with experts is relevant to real lit practices. Scru...
Light glittery corn cake coldplay fan
  01/24/15
No real reduction in disputes. Just taking a first shot in t...
brilliant factory reset button mad-dog skullcap
  01/24/15
This is false. Our firm is hiring and if anything my headhu...
Big Grizzly Plaza
  01/24/15
Maybe at shit firms that only had troll cases. Competitor di...
Razzmatazz Organic Girlfriend Church Building
  01/24/15
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harsh laughsome gas station
  02/23/15


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Date: January 23rd, 2015 7:10 PM
Author: cobalt point

LJL. Literally no cases being filed. Companies realize IP Lit = huge waste of money with little to no upside. Kirkland/Weil associates desperatly sending resumes to Oliff/Oblon and other prosecution shops.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2790010&forum_id=2#27173590)



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Date: January 23rd, 2015 7:10 PM
Author: harsh laughsome gas station

Stats?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2790010&forum_id=2#27173597)



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Date: January 23rd, 2015 7:18 PM
Author: cobalt point

i am shitcanned ip lit associate at "top" ip lit firm. about half of firm's midlevel ip lit associates were gently let go.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2790010&forum_id=2#27173644)



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Date: January 23rd, 2015 7:23 PM
Author: Jet piazza

out the firm. what do you have to lose?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2790010&forum_id=2#27173682)



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Date: January 23rd, 2015 7:31 PM
Author: cocky digit ratio generalized bond

Being outed as flame

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2790010&forum_id=2#27173738)



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Date: January 23rd, 2015 7:11 PM
Author: Jet piazza

yerp

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2790010&forum_id=2#27173601)



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Date: January 23rd, 2015 7:16 PM
Author: Jet piazza

pretty shitty how DROVES of associates went into IP lit over the past five years during the troll bonanza and smartphone wars only to (presumably) get shitcanned or pushed out over the next few years

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2790010&forum_id=2#27173624)



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Date: January 23rd, 2015 7:18 PM
Author: cobalt point

happening now at almost every biglaw firm. these associates have no marketable skills for other practices, so they are majorly career-fucked.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2790010&forum_id=2#27173636)



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Date: January 23rd, 2015 7:21 PM
Author: Tripping knife heaven

i'm just a shittigator, but...

seems like ip shittigators can just become normal shittigators. they don't now anything except their small world, but they have some transferable skills

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2790010&forum_id=2#27173664)



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Date: January 23rd, 2015 7:23 PM
Author: Jet piazza

lol, no. IP lit people spend shitloads of time drafting invalidity and non-infringement contentions and talking with technical experts. none of that is transferable. if you're talking about knowing what a complaint is, then yeah. i guess some of the skills are transferable, but not the ones that are most used in IP lit work

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2790010&forum_id=2#27173677)



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Date: January 23rd, 2015 7:24 PM
Author: Tripping knife heaven

i always avoided the ip people.



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2790010&forum_id=2#27173694)



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Date: January 23rd, 2015 7:26 PM
Author: House-broken metal laser beams

as a patent barred dude who has avoided ip lit as much as possible in favor of general lit, the same lack of transferrable skills are true of many types of litigation that you'll due as a general litigator. as a biglaw gen litigator, you could spend lots of time talking to financial experts and on internal investigations or other white collar shit that isn't transferrable to shitlitigation.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2790010&forum_id=2#27173702)



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Date: January 23rd, 2015 7:27 PM
Author: boyish regret



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2790010&forum_id=2#27173717)



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Date: January 23rd, 2015 7:29 PM
Author: Jet piazza



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2790010&forum_id=2#27173731)



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Date: January 23rd, 2015 7:35 PM
Author: cheese-eating parlor foreskin

This is the real problem with litigation -- it encourages ridiculous over specialization and then when your practice area naturally crashes you are super fucked. I just spent the last 6 years in a very narrow practice area myself and my field is dying too and in a year or so I'm going to be ULTRA fucked and out of a job.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2790010&forum_id=2#27173754)



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Date: January 23rd, 2015 8:20 PM
Author: Mildly autistic space mexican

Just do move to Stalingrad, bro.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2790010&forum_id=2#27174037)



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Date: January 23rd, 2015 9:17 PM
Author: Jet piazza

i thought you lived in Russia?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2790010&forum_id=2#27174430)



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Date: January 24th, 2015 1:02 AM
Author: Jet piazza



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2790010&forum_id=2#27175704)



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Date: January 23rd, 2015 8:26 PM
Author: stirring chad

Ljl litigators. As a comma chaser, I can always find another JERB

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2790010&forum_id=2#27174080)



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Date: January 24th, 2015 1:14 AM
Author: Light glittery corn cake coldplay fan

Talking with experts is relevant to real lit practices. Scrutinizing



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2790010&forum_id=2#27175754)



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Date: January 24th, 2015 10:13 AM
Author: brilliant factory reset button mad-dog skullcap

No real reduction in disputes. Just taking a first shot in the PTAB. Reduction in total spend over the next year or so. Trolls are scared to assert software these days. But once the standard is clarified, trolls will be back in the district court with a vengeance.

But yeah prob a 10% reduction in associates and you need to pick up some PTAB work for now to survive.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2790010&forum_id=2#27176784)



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Date: January 24th, 2015 12:25 PM
Author: Big Grizzly Plaza

This is false. Our firm is hiring and if anything my headhunter calls have increased substantially.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2790010&forum_id=2#27177413)



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Date: January 24th, 2015 1:34 PM
Author: Razzmatazz Organic Girlfriend Church Building

Maybe at shit firms that only had troll cases. Competitor disputes, particularly in pharma, are alive and well.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2790010&forum_id=2#27177719)



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Date: February 23rd, 2015 7:58 PM
Author: harsh laughsome gas station



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2790010&forum_id=2#27378770)