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Date: January 24th, 2015 1:34 AM Author: Blue cracking fanboi Seems like nobody gets biglaw anymore even in T14, vast majority of lawyers I know are underemployed, even ones who get 'good' jobs at constant risk of firing . How did law get so bad and will it improve ? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2790341&forum_id=2#27175830) |
Date: January 24th, 2015 1:35 AM Author: Curious Meetinghouse no it just smells funny (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2790341&forum_id=2#27175832) |
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Date: January 24th, 2015 1:35 AM Author: aphrodisiac blood rage Stronger than ever (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2790341&forum_id=2#27175835) |
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Date: January 24th, 2015 8:47 AM Author: angry sandwich You must know a lot of dumbasses if they can't get big lol from a t14 (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2790341&forum_id=2#27176581) |
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Date: January 24th, 2015 8:52 AM Author: well-lubricated travel guidebook (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2790341&forum_id=2#27176590) |
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Date: January 24th, 2015 9:11 AM Author: Clear Abusive Gaming Laptop lol... how many people are getting biglawl from UVA or Mich these days? Half at best? I graduated from one of those a couple years ago and it was still pretty grim. lots of "midlaw" or shitty firms.
Georgetown is even less I'm sure. |
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Date: January 24th, 2015 10:37 AM Author: angry sandwich That hardly = 'nobody' and hiring is better than it was a few years ago, though anybody who goes to law school now is still a moron (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2790341&forum_id=2#27176870) |
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Date: January 24th, 2015 10:53 AM Author: Clear Abusive Gaming Laptop i graduated after 2011 and it was still grim. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2790341&forum_id=2#27176956) |
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Date: January 24th, 2015 11:19 AM Author: 180 Geriatric Main People School Cafeteria I graduated from MVP in 2012/2013 and everyone in the top 75% who didn't have a personality disorder could get a BigLaw offer. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2790341&forum_id=2#27177037) |
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Date: January 24th, 2015 11:20 AM Author: Wine Range I graduated from mvp in 2011 and it was top third or bust for v100 big law. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2790341&forum_id=2#27177045) |
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Date: January 24th, 2015 11:22 AM Author: opaque filthy rehab old irish cottage you graduated in literally the worst year to graduate in 20 years (maybe its a tie between 2011 and 2010)... (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2790341&forum_id=2#27177056) |
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Date: January 24th, 2015 11:24 AM Author: Clear Abusive Gaming Laptop 2011 was a lost year, but 2012 onward was no full recovery. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2790341&forum_id=2#27177060) |
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Date: January 24th, 2015 11:21 AM Author: Chocolate marketing idea lies (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2790341&forum_id=2#27177050) |
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Date: January 24th, 2015 11:21 AM Author: Clear Abusive Gaming Laptop were you at Penn? I Know one of M/V was definitely NOT like this. there were people with median grades who did not get offers. only a fraction of the people I knew got actual on campus offers, the others from mass mailing. lots of people ended up in secondary markets who wanted DC/MFH (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2790341&forum_id=2#27177051) |
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Date: January 24th, 2015 11:28 AM Author: 180 Geriatric Main People School Cafeteria I was not at Penn. One of M or V.
Vast majority of my medianish friends got BigLaw SA. Lots of people were able to get BigLaw by graduation if they missed out on getting a summer associate gig. Had one friend (white male) who had like a 3.1 and multiple BigLaw offers (though in less desirable markets, like Detroit, Pittsburgh, Cleveland, etc.).
If most of your median grades were not getting offers, they were probably either socially inept or were gunning for DC.
Ending up in secondary market when you wanted DC/MFH = still getting BigLaw. You're in no way fucked in that situation. I went to a secondary market by choice and could easily lateral to a MFH BigLaw if I wanted. Common knowledge is that most firms actually underhired in c/o 2012 and 2013 and are short on juniors in some practice areas. |
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Date: January 24th, 2015 11:30 AM Author: Chocolate marketing idea nobody gets multiple biglaw offers in secondary cities, bro. thats shitlaw. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2790341&forum_id=2#27177097) |
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Date: January 24th, 2015 11:33 AM Author: 180 Geriatric Main People School Cafeteria I'll be sure to send word to Latham San Diego and GDC Denver that they are shitlaw. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2790341&forum_id=2#27177114) |
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Date: January 24th, 2015 11:35 AM Author: Chocolate marketing idea who the hell said that? i said people dont get multiple offers in secondary city biglaw. But let me correct that, no way in hell someone with a 3.1 from penn law is getting multiple offers in any city that isn't new york or dc. and those offices you mentioned hire maybe five people a year. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2790341&forum_id=2#27177129) |
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Date: January 24th, 2015 11:39 AM Author: 180 Geriatric Main People School Cafeteria WTF is your contention then?
People get multiple offers in secondary city BigLaw. I think I had four spread over three cities. |
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Date: January 24th, 2015 11:41 AM Author: Chocolate marketing idea not with a 3.1 from penn law they dont. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2790341&forum_id=2#27177165) |
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Date: January 24th, 2015 8:51 AM Author: shaky pearl clown a lot of people i've talked to are starting law businesses (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2790341&forum_id=2#27176589) |
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Date: January 24th, 2015 8:53 AM Author: Chocolate marketing idea nah its just a crap industry and theres 2-3+ times as many grads coming through good or respected schools as there are jobs nowadays. as long as you do everything perfectly you should still be well on your way to a life as an in house lawyer at some dumb company. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2790341&forum_id=2#27176591) |
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Date: January 24th, 2015 11:07 AM Author: opaque filthy rehab old irish cottage Funny, I literally don't know one unemployed lawyer...and all of them make at least $125k. Some people around here hang out with some real TTTs. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2790341&forum_id=2#27177009) |
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Date: January 24th, 2015 11:10 AM Author: Sooty halford (Sarah Palin) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2790341&forum_id=2#27177015) |
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Date: January 24th, 2015 11:16 AM Author: opaque filthy rehab old irish cottage But srsly, I'm not bs'ing. I will clarify that I know two women jd's who became stay at home moms, but they don't count. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2790341&forum_id=2#27177029) |
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Date: January 24th, 2015 11:21 AM Author: Sooty halford So you have a narrow depth on your social circle. I slum it sometimes. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2790341&forum_id=2#27177049) |
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Date: January 24th, 2015 11:09 AM Author: Sooty halford Corporate America decided to get serious about costs at the same time technology and contractors took away serious revenue streams. So it's shrinking.
But I think that the law will still be part of the way the world operates in 100 years and the profession will live on. |
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Date: January 24th, 2015 11:21 AM Author: Wine Range Oh what a scholar! (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2790341&forum_id=2#27177047) |
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Date: January 24th, 2015 11:22 AM Author: Sooty halford I was being facetious. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2790341&forum_id=2#27177053) |
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Date: January 24th, 2015 11:34 AM Author: bull headed electric people who are hurt It would take a lot to get fired from my inhouse jerb. It actually depresses me because I'm stuck forever (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2790341&forum_id=2#27177120) |
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Date: January 24th, 2015 5:06 PM Author: Low-t Idea He Suggested Toilet Seat Op is an exaggerating dumbass. There is a middle ground between "nobody gets big law" and law being the ticket to riches.
Also, dude above claiming that secondary city outposts of major firms are just handing out offers to median MVP kids is full of shit |
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Date: January 24th, 2015 6:21 PM Author: chrome azn Graduated from a middling T14 two years ago and I didn't know anyone who graduated unemployed, besides one or two of the token super-awkward kids. The majority of my friends who wanted biglaw got it, and everyone else got government, mid-sized or boutique firms, or public interest.
Doesn't mean law school doesn't suck though. $150k in debt for a miserable job you'll hate after 1 year is a bad trade. |