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Do you need to register a copyright w USPTO to sell a license?

Specific question is with regard to some forms that a client...
sepia offensive locus
  01/25/15
Someone creates a piece of software and sells it under a lic...
provocative office hissy fit
  01/25/15
No one told me anything. I was just checking with XO to con...
sepia offensive locus
  01/25/15
Here is a better source of info, and also the actual locatio...
provocative office hissy fit
  01/25/15
"they don't need anything else to enforce" enfo...
plum library faggot firefighter
  01/25/15
Your IP rights.
provocative office hissy fit
  01/25/15
wrong, see 17 U.S. Code § 411. all you would have is a ...
plum library faggot firefighter
  01/25/15
Yeah, you're right, that is in the FAQs I linked to.
provocative office hissy fit
  01/25/15
"They don't need anything else to enforce." Tha...
sooty lodge
  01/25/15
I was thinking from a licensing perspective but you're right...
provocative office hissy fit
  01/25/15
I don't think it's absolutely necessary, but there are a bun...
Mind-boggling Magenta Station Turdskin
  01/25/15
if they ever need to sue for infringement, yes. registration...
plum library faggot firefighter
  01/25/15
right. My client plans to do it. Was wondering if it might...
sepia offensive locus
  01/25/15
no, it's not strictly necessary, but without being able to e...
plum library faggot firefighter
  01/25/15
Assuming your claim is based on straight copyright infringem...
provocative office hissy fit
  01/25/15
17 U.S. Code § 411(a) http://www.law.cornell.edu/usc...
plum library faggot firefighter
  01/25/15
Fair enough, I guess my point is that many real efforts to e...
provocative office hissy fit
  01/25/15
sure, but as OP is advising his client on protecting his IP,...
plum library faggot firefighter
  01/25/15
Yeah, makes sense.
provocative office hissy fit
  01/25/15
Outted as a copyright N00b. Nice edit.
Peach Cumskin
  01/25/15
:(
provocative office hissy fit
  01/25/15
To license, no. To sue, yes.
Copper Mewling National Goyim
  01/25/15
Twist: the USPTO doesn't register copyrights.
Peach Cumskin
  01/25/15
Correct.
provocative office hissy fit
  01/25/15
Actually it does. It is USPTCO but the C is silent. Hth.
Tan soggy business firm
  01/25/15
Copyright office is part of the the Library of Congress not ...
Sienna Pozpig
  01/25/15
ITT: shitheads
boyish misunderstood cuckoldry main people
  01/25/15
give us a break, there's no football on today
plum library faggot firefighter
  01/25/15
Is there usually football on on Sundays or something?
provocative office hissy fit
  01/25/15


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Date: January 25th, 2015 1:43 PM
Author: sepia offensive locus

Specific question is with regard to some forms that a client of mine wants to protect and license to third parties.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2791366&forum_id=2#27183067)



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Date: January 25th, 2015 1:51 PM
Author: provocative office hissy fit

Someone creates a piece of software and sells it under a license that is click through. They don't need anything else to enforce the license (though they do from a copyright infringement perspective).

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2791366&forum_id=2#27183112)



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Date: January 25th, 2015 1:54 PM
Author: sepia offensive locus

No one told me anything. I was just checking with XO to confirm what I thought. XO is my sanity check.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2791366&forum_id=2#27183126)



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Date: January 25th, 2015 1:57 PM
Author: provocative office hissy fit

Here is a better source of info, and also the actual location you register with (not the USPTO which is patents): http://www.copyright.gov/help/faq/

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2791366&forum_id=2#27183152)



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Date: January 25th, 2015 1:57 PM
Author: plum library faggot firefighter

"they don't need anything else to enforce"

enforce what?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2791366&forum_id=2#27183151)



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Date: January 25th, 2015 1:57 PM
Author: provocative office hissy fit

Your IP rights.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2791366&forum_id=2#27183159)



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Date: January 25th, 2015 2:05 PM
Author: plum library faggot firefighter

wrong, see 17 U.S. Code § 411. all you would have is a contract claim, assuming the licensee breached the licensing agreement.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2791366&forum_id=2#27183203)



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Date: January 25th, 2015 2:08 PM
Author: provocative office hissy fit

Yeah, you're right, that is in the FAQs I linked to.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2791366&forum_id=2#27183220)



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Date: January 25th, 2015 3:06 PM
Author: sooty lodge

"They don't need anything else to enforce."

That's not really true. You have to register before you can sue for copyright infringement.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2791366&forum_id=2#27183599)



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Date: January 25th, 2015 3:07 PM
Author: provocative office hissy fit

I was thinking from a licensing perspective but you're right. Covered elsewhere in the thread. Hold on, I'll edit so this isn't there anymore.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2791366&forum_id=2#27183611)



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Date: January 25th, 2015 1:49 PM
Author: Mind-boggling Magenta Station Turdskin

I don't think it's absolutely necessary, but there are a bunch of good reasons to do it, and it's like $50.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2791366&forum_id=2#27183097)



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Date: January 25th, 2015 1:49 PM
Author: plum library faggot firefighter

if they ever need to sue for infringement, yes. registration is trivial.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2791366&forum_id=2#27183098)



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Date: January 25th, 2015 1:52 PM
Author: sepia offensive locus

right. My client plans to do it. Was wondering if it might be necessary if they want to sell a license for that work for money (as opposed to just protecting it from unauthorized uses).

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2791366&forum_id=2#27183116)



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Date: January 25th, 2015 1:53 PM
Author: plum library faggot firefighter

no, it's not strictly necessary, but without being able to enforce against unauthorized uses, what value is the licensing? i guess if they wanted to bring a contract claim against a licensee that breaches?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2791366&forum_id=2#27183125)



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Date: January 25th, 2015 2:00 PM
Author: provocative office hissy fit

Assuming your claim is based on straight copyright infringement.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2791366&forum_id=2#27183172)



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Date: January 25th, 2015 2:03 PM
Author: plum library faggot firefighter

17 U.S. Code § 411(a)

http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/17/411

edit: you edited. your original post said "Link?", which i have provided here.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2791366&forum_id=2#27183193)



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Date: January 25th, 2015 2:06 PM
Author: provocative office hissy fit

Fair enough, I guess my point is that many real efforts to enforce are actually based on license infringement rather than straight copyright infringement. Depends on scenario, of course. But you're right.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2791366&forum_id=2#27183207)



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Date: January 25th, 2015 2:07 PM
Author: plum library faggot firefighter

sure, but as OP is advising his client on protecting his IP, it would be a major oversight to not have him register it before engaging in licensing.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2791366&forum_id=2#27183215)



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Date: January 25th, 2015 2:15 PM
Author: provocative office hissy fit

Yeah, makes sense.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2791366&forum_id=2#27183269)



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Date: January 25th, 2015 2:05 PM
Author: Peach Cumskin

Outted as a copyright N00b. Nice edit.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2791366&forum_id=2#27183202)



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Date: January 25th, 2015 2:09 PM
Author: provocative office hissy fit

:(

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2791366&forum_id=2#27183222)



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Date: January 25th, 2015 1:52 PM
Author: Copper Mewling National Goyim

To license, no. To sue, yes.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2791366&forum_id=2#27183117)



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Date: January 25th, 2015 1:54 PM
Author: Peach Cumskin

Twist: the USPTO doesn't register copyrights.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2791366&forum_id=2#27183133)



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Date: January 25th, 2015 1:59 PM
Author: provocative office hissy fit

Correct.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2791366&forum_id=2#27183168)



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Date: January 25th, 2015 3:07 PM
Author: Tan soggy business firm

Actually it does. It is USPTCO but the C is silent. Hth.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2791366&forum_id=2#27183610)



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Date: January 25th, 2015 3:15 PM
Author: Sienna Pozpig

Copyright office is part of the the Library of Congress not uspto

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2791366&forum_id=2#27183678)



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Date: January 25th, 2015 2:06 PM
Author: boyish misunderstood cuckoldry main people

ITT: shitheads

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2791366&forum_id=2#27183209)



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Date: January 25th, 2015 2:08 PM
Author: plum library faggot firefighter

give us a break, there's no football on today

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2791366&forum_id=2#27183216)



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Date: January 25th, 2015 2:09 PM
Author: provocative office hissy fit

Is there usually football on on Sundays or something?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2791366&forum_id=2#27183227)