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Date: January 27th, 2015 10:05 PM Author: curious spruce telephone candlestick maker grinding away to get a high gpa in a useless liberal arts subject (but a relatively hard one) so i could go to grad school.
then i realized grad school was a debt-trap, and now organize my life around trying to party as though i was in college to make up for lost time.
so pathetic that i fell for this scam. should have coasted with a 3.4 and would be able to actually focus on work now that it matters. |
Date: January 27th, 2015 10:06 PM Author: Orange site toilet seat I'm glad I took a break (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2793602&forum_id=2#27200373) |
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Date: January 27th, 2015 10:08 PM Author: White Pit Tank You could have found yourself on the wrong end of a rape rap, so there's that. You could be on a bus right now headed out to the chain gang. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2793602&forum_id=2#27200389) |
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Date: January 27th, 2015 10:10 PM Author: curious spruce telephone candlestick maker not a bad point (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2793602&forum_id=2#27200398) |
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Date: January 27th, 2015 10:09 PM Author: passionate state shoulda just focused on your looks.. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2793602&forum_id=2#27200397) |
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Date: January 27th, 2015 10:12 PM Author: curious spruce telephone candlestick maker i should have either (a) majored in econ and grinded for finance; or (b) majored in english or american studies, done nothing for a 3.5, and banged 19 yo girls. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2793602&forum_id=2#27200415) |
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Date: January 27th, 2015 10:15 PM Author: thirsty giraffe Yeah I realized soon after finishing my political science degree that school was not my thing. At least I have no debt and have more than 10k to my name which apparently makes me a top 0.01% blue blood feudal overlord by millennial standards. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2793602&forum_id=2#27200440) |
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Date: January 27th, 2015 10:15 PM Author: Bistre aggressive masturbator church i never understand people who say this shit. how much could you possibly have worked? did you actually do eight hours/day in college? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2793602&forum_id=2#27200444) |
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Date: January 27th, 2015 10:21 PM Author: curious spruce telephone candlestick maker i studied philosophy which is actually difficult and was gunning hard for yls so i could do legal academia.
i pounded adderall and worked harder than i've ever worked before or since--12 hours/day of mental gymnastics that no normal person can do for more than 3-4 hours per day--and had a perfect gpa.
senior year i realized how meaningless this and how adderall was destroying my life, my emotions, and my relationships with other people.
there's no way i can ever grind that hard again without amphetamine salts, so i've been biding my time in salesy tech jobs since because i have no marketable skills. god knows what i'll do when the bubble bursts. |
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Date: January 27th, 2015 10:49 PM Author: galvanic national security agency This anecdote really shows how America has totally failed its talented youth (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2793602&forum_id=2#27200802) |
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Date: January 28th, 2015 9:30 AM Author: abusive low-t national jew LOL, twelve hours a day. You'te either retarded or lying. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2793602&forum_id=2#27202557) |
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Date: January 28th, 2015 9:55 AM Author: Abnormal background story (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2793602&forum_id=2#27202633) |
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Date: January 28th, 2015 9:59 AM Author: Jet doobsian address cr. Adderall destroys creativity in favor of extreme attention to detail and rote memorization. That's why I found it helpful to cram for a test but counterproductive to writing papers. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2793602&forum_id=2#27202643) |
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Date: January 28th, 2015 10:00 AM Author: Wine tanning salon this is nothing like my experience with it but then again i may actually suffer from something it treats (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2793602&forum_id=2#27202646) |
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Date: January 28th, 2015 10:07 AM Author: Jet doobsian address I procrastinate and leave most things to the last minute though I'm able to focus intensely when I have to. I'm pretty sure I don't fall within any clinical definition of ADD. I think adderall just makes anyone better at studying and prob has other beneficial effects for people for whom the drug is intended.
When I tried to write papers on adderall I would end up spending 30 min writing and rewriting each sentence until i thought I got it just right then move on to then next sentence. At the end it would just be a disjointed mess and my eyelids would be twitching as I watched the sunrise. |
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Date: January 28th, 2015 10:17 AM Author: Abnormal background story (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2793602&forum_id=2#27202690) |
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Date: January 28th, 2015 7:47 PM Author: Gaped comical laser beams potus The lawyer's perfect drug. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2793602&forum_id=2#27205441) |
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Date: January 28th, 2015 12:13 PM Author: curious spruce telephone candlestick maker i'm probably incorporating dead time in between classes, so maybe in terms of hard focus it was more like 9-10 hours/day.
a lot of the extra work wasn't necessary due to diminishing marginal returns and grade inflation, but in my speed-induced obsessiveness i wanted every argument to be crystal clear, with no wasted word. |
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Date: January 31st, 2015 11:21 PM Author: racy turdskin piazza (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2793602&forum_id=2#27225125) |
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Date: January 27th, 2015 10:40 PM Author: Awkward Ruddy Casino Pozpig could be worse, i was clinically depressed for three years so i ended up with a 3.4 and about six months worth of 'college experience', and now ive spent the four years since having to work my ass off to avoid having to move in with my parents (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2793602&forum_id=2#27200702) |
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Date: January 27th, 2015 10:50 PM Author: Dashing effete theatre Hello, me. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2793602&forum_id=2#27200813) |
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Date: January 28th, 2015 9:17 AM Author: brindle embarrassed to the bone property i never understand people who say i could have done nothing for a 3.5 in undergrad. in undergrad i worked 9am -12 am 7 days a week and eked out a 3.6. what schools are you people talking about? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2793602&forum_id=2#27202514) |
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Date: January 28th, 2015 9:24 AM Author: Swollen Scarlet Meetinghouse What was your major? Engineering/hard science? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2793602&forum_id=2#27202534) |
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Date: January 28th, 2015 9:32 AM Author: brindle embarrassed to the bone property history (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2793602&forum_id=2#27202561) |
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Date: January 28th, 2015 9:34 AM Author: Swollen Scarlet Meetinghouse What do you do now? You need to learn to study more efficiently, man. A lot of people who over-study just don't know how to study effectively (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2793602&forum_id=2#27202568) |
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Date: January 28th, 2015 9:38 AM Author: brindle embarrassed to the bone property ha i mean i was generally interested in the topic...i felt a normal level of stress in college but put the extra hours in out of genuine interest...but yea on average each class assigned a 400 or so page book a week, plus response papers, research papers, term papers, midterms, problem sets, finals...all that x4 classes a term... i partied hard too, but just saying, the idea that you could coast through college seems like a joke to me...though ive heard this from several people, including at my T10 law school...but that was not my experience at undergrad, or the experience of any of my piers...
now im a miserable drone 4th year associate at a v30 |
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Date: January 28th, 2015 10:28 AM Author: Awkward Ruddy Casino Pozpig A 400 page book a week was typical? I was a history major and I only encountered anything approaching that in my upper level seminars (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2793602&forum_id=2#27202720) |
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Date: January 28th, 2015 10:31 AM Author: brindle embarrassed to the bone property yea easily...i mean i didnt read every word...often only had time for the first and last chapters and skimming topic sentences of the rest...but yea...id also say about 50% of my classes were seminar style...but yea its not HS where it was like uh read ten pages of a text book each week...it was yea read this 400 page book about the experience of indigenous peoples during international conflict then read this 350 page book about LBJ's decision making then red this 400 page novel about american soldiers during the war then read this... (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2793602&forum_id=2#27202727) |
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Date: January 28th, 2015 12:00 PM Author: curious spruce telephone candlestick maker you played the game wrong.
i took some history classes. they are a joke. your mistake was actually reading the books, as opposed to the intros and conclusions which contain the entire effing argument. rest of the book is just empirical evidence--which is actually what other professional historians will dispute, but when you're an undergrad none of this effing matters.
this is very different from philosophy where the intro and conclusion lay out the overall argument but in order to mount a meaningful critique you have to read most of it. |
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Date: January 28th, 2015 12:04 PM Author: brindle embarrassed to the bone property maybe, maybe not...never really viewed it as a 'game.' was genuinely interested in subject matter, thought i may want to be a historian, thought knowing these details made me a more thoughtful, interesting person, etc. but yea obv didnt read every word in every book...
but even if i had worked slightly less hard, that would have hardly amounted to 'cruising.' there was still plenty of papers and problem sets and exams and shit that required constant attention. |
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Date: January 28th, 2015 1:45 PM Author: big amber wrinkle after first semester i realized that all the assigned reading in most humanities classes was basically just "recommended reading." there's no reason to do all of it. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2793602&forum_id=2#27203561) |
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Date: January 28th, 2015 9:28 AM Author: exciting aqua trust fund parlour yea. I did jack shit in college but almost failed out. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2793602&forum_id=2#27202551) |
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Date: January 28th, 2015 12:11 PM Author: know-it-all bronze orchestra pit mood What the fuck kind of school did you attend?
I don't feel bad for you considering you were a god damn history major and now make 200 |
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Date: January 28th, 2015 7:42 PM Author: motley citrine legend indian lodge Even more unlikely is that the kind of person who would gun that hard could have "chilled" partied and fucked hot girls (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2793602&forum_id=2#27205417) |
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Date: January 28th, 2015 7:44 PM Author: curious spruce telephone candlestick maker It's what I'm doing now.
Senior year I became deeply nihilistic, finished with top grades mostly based on reputation. While I still don't drink much, I have taken relatively chill jobs and banged around 30 girls (vs. ~10 in college). Mostly hot ones although there were admittedly some scallywags. |
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Date: January 31st, 2015 11:24 PM Author: racy turdskin piazza (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2793602&forum_id=2#27225155) |
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Date: January 28th, 2015 9:26 AM Author: Swollen Scarlet Meetinghouse You said you gunned for YLS--what is your plan now? You decided against law school? If you got a 4.0 GPA in a Philosophy major from a good school, you should be able to get into a top law school and turn your life around (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2793602&forum_id=2#27202542) |
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Date: January 28th, 2015 12:07 PM Author: curious spruce telephone candlestick maker I make close to $100k doing salesy shit for tech companies. Given the shaky market, going to HYS to become a lawyer is not worth the risk (at least until the tech bubble bursts).
I could probably get a full scholarship at a lower T14 but then there's a substantial risk that i'd get no-job pwned and it would all be a massive waste of time.
i had an objectively good outcome for a liberal arts faggot. it's just all so mediocre and depressing. |
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Date: January 28th, 2015 12:26 PM Author: Painfully honest church building how do you recommend a lib art shithead like yourself get into what you're doing? i have a 4.0 GPA, if that helps. TY (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2793602&forum_id=2#27203185) |
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Date: January 28th, 2015 12:34 PM Author: curious spruce telephone candlestick maker apply to account manager positions at software companies. then work your way up to sales. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2793602&forum_id=2#27203217) |
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Date: January 28th, 2015 12:49 PM Author: Swollen Scarlet Meetinghouse Do you need to be outgoing to do sales? People with 4.0 GPAs but shit/aspie social skills would do horrible in sales. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2793602&forum_id=2#27203267) |
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Date: January 28th, 2015 12:50 PM Author: curious spruce telephone candlestick maker not really. you do need to be confident and somewhat manipulative. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2793602&forum_id=2#27203277) |
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Date: January 28th, 2015 6:04 PM Author: Provocative greedy field THIS (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2793602&forum_id=2#27204962) |
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Date: January 28th, 2015 7:43 PM Author: motley citrine legend indian lodge You post on this board...do the lawyers here sound happy about being lawyers? Stick with your current job. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2793602&forum_id=2#27205426) |
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Date: January 28th, 2015 10:00 AM Author: Onyx appetizing lettuce headpube (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2793602&forum_id=2#27202648) |
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Date: January 28th, 2015 10:22 AM Author: Abnormal background story (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2793602&forum_id=2#27202705) |
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Date: January 28th, 2015 10:30 AM Author: Onyx appetizing lettuce headpube (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2793602&forum_id=2#27202725) |
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Date: January 28th, 2015 12:09 PM Author: curious spruce telephone candlestick maker yeah when i graduated it was like, "wow, that was a complete waste of fucking time." (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2793602&forum_id=2#27203102) |
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Date: January 28th, 2015 12:20 PM Author: Chrome stain The higher education system in America is ridiculously fucked up. It is, far and away, the single greatest threat to this country's continued success and well-being, economically, culturally, and politically. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2793602&forum_id=2#27203154) |
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Date: January 28th, 2015 12:33 PM Author: galvanic national security agency cr (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2793602&forum_id=2#27203215) |
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Date: January 28th, 2015 7:11 PM Author: Abnormal background story (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2793602&forum_id=2#27205267) |
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Date: January 28th, 2015 7:15 PM Author: Umber Heaven (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2793602&forum_id=2#27205295) |
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Date: January 28th, 2015 12:44 PM Author: galvanic national security agency i think i agree with this, but could you explain why you think it's so fucked up and how that leads to self-medication? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2793602&forum_id=2#27203250) |
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Date: January 28th, 2015 7:17 PM Author: Abnormal background story (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2793602&forum_id=2#27205302) |
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Date: January 28th, 2015 7:50 PM Author: galvanic national security agency yeah, agree with this. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2793602&forum_id=2#27205459) |
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Date: January 28th, 2015 12:32 PM Author: Massive Gaming Laptop If you have a 4.0 why the fuck would you not just do T14 full ride? It's ten times the option that any of your other possibilities are. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2793602&forum_id=2#27203206) |
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Date: January 28th, 2015 12:37 PM Author: curious spruce telephone candlestick maker i already make close to six figures and am saving $10-15k per year. i'm not good at math but i could probably do an m7 mba if my career really stalled out.
biglaw as a career path is dumb, and that's probably the best possible outcome if i don't do hys.
i wanted to go to law school so i could do legal academia--there was a time (2007, when i started college) when this was a semi-realistic goal if you were a smart grinder. no longer the case really for a white male (not that i'd even want to be part of the racket, now that i see it for what it is). |
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Date: January 28th, 2015 12:43 PM Author: Massive Gaming Laptop Most legal academics these days have a PhD. It isn't worth it.
If you got a full ride to CCN it would be a relatively risk-free way to double your earning potential. The question then would be how much worse is Biglaw than the job you have now. |
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Date: January 28th, 2015 12:54 PM Author: curious spruce telephone candlestick maker The work is not stimulating at all, except for negotiations which are kind of fun, but I'm friends with everyone I work with (including the founders) and have a lot of flexibility.
It's relatively low pressure since I'm good at the interpersonal stuff the job requires but a lot smarter than most people doing this sort of thing. The ops people love me because the business terms always come in correct and i can handle most of the legal negotiations as well. |
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Date: January 28th, 2015 1:03 PM Author: Massive Gaming Laptop I guess it's just down to whether you have any ambitions that $80k isn't going to handle.
The more you are like me--MFH, want kids, want to retire by 50--the more it might be worthwhile. But if your ambitions don't require a ton of money, you might be happier in your current track. |
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Date: January 28th, 2015 1:20 PM Author: curious spruce telephone candlestick maker Top salespeople in my industry make $400k + stock options. I'm very junior.
The point of being a lawyer would be that it can be somewhat intellectually stimulating, but from an economic perspective, if I was going to go back to school, an MBA --> consulting would make more sense (except for the debt piece) because I'd have way more options. |
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Date: January 28th, 2015 12:33 PM Author: smoky market Captain Morgan is synonymous with college for me. 2 buddies and I would routinely finish a handle ourselves in the dorm at night before wandering around campus finding parties and chilling with friends. I would get black out and make out with ugly chicks. The next day id wake up hungover and meet my also hungover buddies in the cafeteria for a giant plate of bacon eggs and toast and we would shoot the shit.
Best four years of my life. Now I'm clinically depressed because i sit in an office 10 hours a day typing away like a trained monkey, while social interaction consists of listening to coworkers babble about reality tv or how hard it is to stay up past 10 pm.
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Date: January 28th, 2015 12:53 PM Author: Swollen Scarlet Meetinghouse what do you do? BIGLAW? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2793602&forum_id=2#27203291) |
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Date: January 28th, 2015 12:55 PM Author: smoky market Yes and I've come to realize all desk jobs suck anyway. This is the fucking grand prize for following the rules and doing well in school? LJL. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2793602&forum_id=2#27203305) |
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Date: January 28th, 2015 1:41 PM Author: brindle embarrassed to the bone property this (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2793602&forum_id=2#27203541) |
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Date: January 28th, 2015 12:52 PM Author: know-it-all bronze orchestra pit mood harro: what kind of jerb do you have where u make 6 figs with a history degree (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2793602&forum_id=2#27203285) |
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Date: January 28th, 2015 12:53 PM Author: Swollen Scarlet Meetinghouse He does Tech sales. Your degree doesn't matter for sales, bro. You just gotta be able to sell shit (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2793602&forum_id=2#27203293) |
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Date: January 28th, 2015 1:01 PM Author: curious spruce telephone candlestick maker you have to be able to sell shit in the right way.
for enterprise sales, the idea of the guffawing, back-slapping, beer-crushing frat boy is a bit misguided. the best salespeople i know are nerds who know how to talk to people. |
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Date: January 28th, 2015 1:03 PM Author: Swollen Scarlet Meetinghouse Most nerds are not good at sales, bro (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2793602&forum_id=2#27203341) |
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Date: January 28th, 2015 1:22 PM Author: curious spruce telephone candlestick maker I didn't say they were. Most people are not good at sales. It takes balls to take control of a meeting with a buyer and make them pay a premium for something. The people I know who are the best at this happen to be kind of nerdy. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2793602&forum_id=2#27203441) |
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Date: January 28th, 2015 1:24 PM Author: Swollen Scarlet Meetinghouse LOL, no. Top sales bros are not nerdy. They just know how to talk well, relate well to others and convince people to buy shit. The best sales people are the ones who were popular in high school and had the most friends because they were charismatic and had very likeable personalities (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2793602&forum_id=2#27203450) |
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Date: January 28th, 2015 1:28 PM Author: curious spruce telephone candlestick maker Depends on what you're selling. Top re brokers are probably not nerdy. If we're talking about selling enterprise software to other big tech companies--well, um, yeah, the best people are either hot girls or smart, aggressive nerdy business guys (very different from aspie developer types).
Broing out and building rapport doesn't close big deals with F500 companies. It's not the same as fucking timeshare sales. |
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Date: January 28th, 2015 5:56 PM Author: Sexy locus enterprise sales is 1000x more seedy than selling cars (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2793602&forum_id=2#27204914) |
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Date: January 28th, 2015 7:41 PM Author: curious spruce telephone candlestick maker depends on your perspective.
the counterparty is an employee of some faceless corporation who doesn't actually care, rather than an actual person, so you get much less pushback on price + you're not directly hurting anyone, so it's much easier to deal with psychologically.
but yeah, there's a lot of bullshitting involved. |
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Date: January 28th, 2015 6:07 PM Author: Maize sound barrier rigor do hot girls really do that well even with F500 accounts? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2793602&forum_id=2#27204986) |
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Date: January 28th, 2015 7:42 PM Author: curious spruce telephone candlestick maker They undeniably have a slight advantage, except when they're selling to other women. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2793602&forum_id=2#27205418) |
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Date: January 28th, 2015 7:05 PM Author: Cerebral sinister halford i was literally wasted in college too
edit: misread the op. i stand by my statement |
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Date: January 31st, 2015 11:20 PM Author: racy turdskin piazza (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2793602&forum_id=2#27225120) |