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Date: January 28th, 2015 4:35 PM Author: odious hall chad http://www.americanlawyer.com/top-stories/id=1202716144338/Top-Female-Rainmaker-Leaves-Kirkland-for-Paul-Weiss?mcode=1202615731542&curindex=0
Taurie Zeitzer, a leading M&A lawyer who joined Kirkland & Ellis just over two years ago from Latham & Watkins, is taking her private equity expertise to Paul, Weiss, Rifkind, Wharton & Garrison, The Am Law Daily has confirmed.
According to two sources with knowledge of her hire, Zeitzer had just completed a two-year guarantee at Kirkland that paid her $6 million to $7 million a year. That guarantee had recently been re-upped for another two years.
The Am Law Daily reached out to Zeitzer at Paul Weiss but did not hear back. Paul Weiss confirmed her hire but declined to comment, and Kirkland did not have a comment at press time.
Zeitzer, 42, is among the top women M&A lawyers in New York and her loss comes as a big blow to Kirkland. In the past year, she has handled several big deals for New York-based private equity giant Apollo Global Management—a client she has built a relationship with over the past 15 years and with which Kirkland didn’t have a relationship until Zeitzer’s arrival from Latham in August 2012.
Zeitzer’s work for Apollo at Latham saw her advise the buyout firm on its $1.4 billion acquisition of Belgian chemical firm Taminco in 2011, as well as representing Taminco on its subsequent $1.8 billion sale to Eastman Chemical last fall after she moved to Kirkland. She also counseled Apollo-backed Verso Paper on its $1.4 billion buy of NewPage Holdings a year ago this month.
Zeitzer was lead adviser to Apollo on its ultimately unsuccessful bid for Petsmart in December, according to two sources involved in the matter. Other key Zeitzer clients include Searchlight Capital Partners, BC Partners and the Canadian Pension Plan Investment Board, according to her biography page on Kirkland's website.
Zeitzer was touted as one of Kirkland’s top hires in a May 2013 cover story about the firm by The American Lawyer. The firm’s chairman Jeffrey Hammes has been focused on bringing aboard high-profile laterals like Zeitzer, particularly in premium practices such as private equity. (Kirkland also hired Simpson Thacher & Bartlett M&A partner Andrew Calder last year, for instance, to strengthen its ties to buyout giant KKR.)
Of course, Apollo—an investment fund that recently reported having $164 billion in assets under management that has been particularly active recently in selling and buying companies—is not Kirkland’s only large private equity client. The firm has done deals for Bain Capital Management LLC, Apax Partners LLP, Oaktree Capital Management and Madison Dearborn Partners in recent years. But for the most part, Kirkland has traditionally had a middle-market private equity client base.
In New York, Zeitzer ranks among the elite women dealmakers, a list that includes the likes of Cravath, Swaine & Moore's Faiza Saeed; Gibson, Dunn & Crutcher's Barbara Becker; and Skadden, Arps, Slate, Meagher & Flom's Martha McGarry. All are several years older than Zeitzer, who is one of the only few star women transactional partners at Kirkland. The firm saw another of its female M&A stars in Kimberly Taylor—whose clients included London-based Apax Partners—leave in 2011. (Taylor, now the University of Chicago’s general counsel, was featured in our January 2011 cover story on top women lawyers in the private bar under age 45.)
Zeitzer’s work for Apollo began early in her career, while she was at O’Sullivan Graev & Karabell, a New York boutique known for its private equity transactional work that was eventually absorbed into O’Melveny & Myers in 2002. As a second-year associate, she told legal newswire Law360 in 2013 that she ran the due diligence process on a complex carve-out acquisition in the chemicals sector, beginning what would be a 15-year relationship with Apollo.
Zeitzer worked closely with John Suydam, a former chair of O’Sullivan who went on to head O’Melveny’s M&A group before leaving in 2006 to become Apollo’s chief legal officer. He continued to steer work to Zeitzer after the move. O’Melveny elevated her to partner in 2007, at age 36, but she left seven months later for Latham.
O’Melveny environmental practice head Eric Rothenberg, who has worked with Zeitzer on numerous Apollo deals since she was an associate, calls Zeitzer "a 24-7 player, a senior private equity deal leader with expertise in the chemicals sector" known for her calm but forceful demeanor. Zeitzer's at the point of her career where she's consulted by her clients at the deal consideration phase, he adds—in contrast to most outside counsel, who are generally called once a decision to go forward with a transaction is made. In the deal setting, she's most often the only woman lead adviser in the room, Rothenberg notes.
Zeitzer’s latest move comes nearly four years after Paul Weiss raided O’Melveny for seven corporate and transactional partners, many of whom also continue to do work for Apollo. The firm counts Apollo among its most active and largest clients, advising it on the close of its latest $17.5 billion fund last January, as well as representing it on its $2.5 billion acquisition of McGraw Hill’s education unit in 2012, among others.
Meanwhile, Kirkland is continuing its frantic pace of lateral hires, announcing Monday that Michael Beinus has joined the firm’s Los Angeles office as a partner in its tax practice. Beinus comes aboard from Skadden and has represented various real estate investment trusts and funds, including Starwood Hotel and Resorts Worldwide; Nationwide Health Properties; Apartment Investment and Management Company and REITs affiliated with Deutsche Bank/RREEF, The Blackstone Group, Pimco, Carmel Partners, BlackRock Realty Advisors and Colony Capital, according to his website bio at Skadden. In 2011, The Am Law Daily reported he was part of a Skadden team advising Nationwide Health Properties on its $7.4 billion acquisition by Chicago-based REIT Ventas.
Kirkland also recently brought on Arnold & Porter labor and employment litigation partner Matthew Keiser in Washington, D.C. But the firm did see Stephen Fraidin, a senior M&A partner who joined the firm more than a decade ago from Fried, Frank, Harris, Shriver & Jacobson, recently depart to become vice chairman of Pershing Square Capital Management, the activist hedge fund run by longtime client William Ackman.
Paul Weiss has also seen departures. In December, the firm saw the chair of its media and entertainment group James Schwab leave to become copresident of Vice Media. |
Date: January 28th, 2015 4:41 PM Author: Contagious Old Irish Cottage What's she bringing in revs to justify a payout like that? 14-21 million/year? More? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2794150&forum_id=2#27204553) |
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Date: January 28th, 2015 4:44 PM Author: pearl business firm telephone maybe they thought they could break even on her and get more and more work...so only like $15mm. But you'd think more based on that Dewey partner with the $6m guarantee with $40mm in business each year. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2794150&forum_id=2#27204565) |
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Date: January 28th, 2015 4:48 PM Author: Contagious Old Irish Cottage Weird. Banking, it's usually about 1/3 and maybe if a firm recruits you they'd pay up closer to 50% for a couple years. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2794150&forum_id=2#27204586) |
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Date: January 28th, 2015 4:45 PM Author: galvanic circlehead $35mm at minimum imo (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2794150&forum_id=2#27204571) |
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Date: January 28th, 2015 4:52 PM Author: excitant sick set Really? That seems like a shit deal for her then. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2794150&forum_id=2#27204609) |
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Date: January 28th, 2015 4:55 PM Author: galvanic circlehead a lot of overhead at those firms, and you need to be able to pay for the other partners working on your deals (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2794150&forum_id=2#27204626) |
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Date: January 28th, 2015 5:00 PM Author: Thirsty reading party those M&A deals are huge. That's how law firms make money.
And, at the end of the day, ANYONE could do those deals. This isn't like the 1980s were you needed a law library and a lot of egghead guys who knew the secrets of the law. It's all about your network and whether you can source deals. And she can do that. So yea, you write a check. |
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Date: January 28th, 2015 4:42 PM Author: pearl business firm telephone that is quite a career arc. i don't think anyone at my biglaw firm under 60 has a client like Apollo worth a $7mm annual guaranteed payout.
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Date: January 28th, 2015 4:45 PM Author: galvanic circlehead something lucky must have happened along the way. like, she did a ton of deals for apollo, partner with the relationship had a heart attack, and she took his relationship. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2794150&forum_id=2#27204576) |
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Date: January 28th, 2015 4:48 PM Author: pearl business firm telephone "Zeitzer worked closely with John Suydam, a former chair of O’Sullivan who went on to head O’Melveny’s M&A group before leaving in 2006 to become Apollo’s chief legal officer. He continued to steer work to Zeitzer after the move. O’Melveny elevated her to partner in 2007, at age 36, but she left seven months later for Latham."
maybe she's got dirt on him. but she's obviously ruthless and probably a bit hard to deal with considering she's moved as a partner like 5 times, including 7 months after being made partner. |
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Date: January 28th, 2015 4:50 PM Author: excitant sick set He probably pounded that cunnus back when it was nubile. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2794150&forum_id=2#27204598) |
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Date: January 28th, 2015 4:52 PM Author: Chocolate ticket booth Bonafide gunner if she was copping them informal biglol interviews at 17. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2794150&forum_id=2#27204606) |
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Date: January 28th, 2015 4:52 PM Author: galvanic circlehead Didn't read it, but yeah, that makes complete sense. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2794150&forum_id=2#27204607) |
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Date: January 28th, 2015 5:02 PM Author: Thirsty reading party my guess is these firms didn't want to pay some 40 yr old chick 6 million a year - that probably rubbed the other SPRSTDYAZN partners the wrong way. Her book was completely transportable, though, which is almost unheard of in this day and age, so she could just keep jumping to the highest bidder. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2794150&forum_id=2#27204667) |
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Date: January 28th, 2015 5:05 PM Author: odious hall chad Ruthless and hard to deal with? Everyone on here is ridiculously intimidated by women.
She's getting paid. This article reads like she's gotten a substantial raise every time she's switched. No one would think a guy was "hard to work with" because he was switching jobs over +1MM or more annually |
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Date: January 28th, 2015 5:07 PM Author: galvanic circlehead i'd be very leery of any partner who moved their book that many times in that short of a period. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2794150&forum_id=2#27204684) |
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Date: January 28th, 2015 5:08 PM Author: Thirsty reading party why? that's more a sign of the economics and politics of these firms than anything else. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2794150&forum_id=2#27204688) |
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Date: January 28th, 2015 5:10 PM Author: galvanic circlehead because it's one thing to move once or twice because you aren't getting paid what your book is worth, or because you need a better firm with better support for your deals.
it's another thing be so fickle and constantly jump ship. why would i want to bring in a partner who is gonna leave two years later to go to another firm? |
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Date: January 28th, 2015 5:13 PM Author: Thirsty reading party that is fine when you are talking about some dood who is making 1mm to 1.5mmm to 2mmm
here its probably more like 1.1mm to 3mm to 6mm to 9mm.
No one in her class year at any of these firms makes as much as she does. It's probably a political nightmare for the managing partner to deal with all the feeling hurt azn partners who are getting paid 975k a year at her level. So they push back and other firms are willing to pay a ton more. I don't think she had a choice. |
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Date: January 28th, 2015 5:14 PM Author: Appetizing Mildly Autistic Principal's Office Sound Barrier it's more likely that she's insufferable and causes problems (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2794150&forum_id=2#27204712) |
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Date: January 28th, 2015 5:15 PM Author: odious hall chad Right, and NONE of these firms have found out about it so they keep hiring her, and for substantially more money (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2794150&forum_id=2#27204718) |
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Date: January 28th, 2015 5:18 PM Author: Appetizing Mildly Autistic Principal's Office Sound Barrier firms don't care. they figure it'll be NBD and they'll profit off her. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2794150&forum_id=2#27204728) |
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Date: January 28th, 2015 5:18 PM Author: Thirsty reading party do you work in biglaw? since when does that matter, like at all? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2794150&forum_id=2#27204727) |
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Date: January 28th, 2015 5:20 PM Author: Appetizing Mildly Autistic Principal's Office Sound Barrier firms are more likely to push back when someone is insufferable than when someone is loved and butthurt aznpartners will feel insecure. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2794150&forum_id=2#27204741) |
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Date: January 28th, 2015 5:23 PM Author: Thirsty reading party $$$$$$$$ drives everything. Mgmt committee needs to balance this girl's profitability with pissing off all the butthurt aznpartners. If you make the effort to balance, you can, on balance, do so. The pay hike from Paul Weiss, though probably pushed them over the edge and they couldn't match. Or maybe it was something different, like letting her take 33% of her billables, which they just couldn't do because it would easily open it up for the butthurt azns to be like "you pay me 975k, but 33% would be 1.3mm! i want my 1.3mm!"
having been in biglaw i think this is all much more likely than someone saying "uh, hey, i know we paid you 13mm over the last two years and just reuped your guarantee, but we actually think you are annoying so pls leave." |
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Date: January 28th, 2015 5:25 PM Author: odious hall chad (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2794150&forum_id=2#27204771) |
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Date: January 28th, 2015 5:15 PM Author: galvanic circlehead that's a fair point, but she came in to kirkland making $6-7mm per year, so if she is really growing her book that quickly, i can't imagine the kirkland partners would care about paying her 9 vs 7. something else must be going on. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2794150&forum_id=2#27204720) |
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Date: January 28th, 2015 5:20 PM Author: Thirsty reading party The book might be the same size and Paul Weiss (which has a terrible corporate department but has been desperate to break in for decades) is willing to pay her more. The mgmt committee at kirkland already went to the limit to pay her a ridic 7 mm guarantee (literally unheard of in biglaw) and she comes back and is like "uh paul weiss is willing to pay me 9mm or 33% of my billables or whatever" (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2794150&forum_id=2#27204740) |
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Date: January 28th, 2015 5:23 PM Author: galvanic circlehead I agree with that, but if you're PW, aren't you concerned about hiring a partner making that much guaranteed, with that portable of a book, that she might just bail in another two years? She has a track record of that now. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2794150&forum_id=2#27204755) |
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Date: January 28th, 2015 5:25 PM Author: Thirsty reading party PW is a desperate shitshow. They've tried to grow a corporate practice organically and inorganically and have utterly failed. Literally every loser fired-for-cause corporate associate on the market that I've known has either gone or got an offer from paul weiss.
It would not surprise me at all if they were like "APOLLO WTF WHATEVER SHE WANTS WHATEVER SHE WANTS" |
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Date: January 28th, 2015 5:26 PM Author: galvanic circlehead so they're basically an aging 6 throwing her pussy at every good looking PE associate hoping to find a husband out of her league? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2794150&forum_id=2#27204772) |
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Date: January 28th, 2015 5:28 PM Author: Thirsty reading party this, or maybe they are like cadwalder circa 2003 and think "let's make as much money now before the world explodes and then we'll just clean house."
Sometimes slutting it up is a completely justifiable business practice. |
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Date: January 28th, 2015 5:25 PM Author: odious hall chad That's the whole point. She has to be that good/valuable or this wouldn't keep happening. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2794150&forum_id=2#27204770) |
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Date: January 28th, 2015 5:27 PM Author: galvanic circlehead her book is incredibly valuable, especially since it's 100% portable to PW, but that's a liability once they have her imo. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2794150&forum_id=2#27204776) |
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Date: January 28th, 2015 5:29 PM Author: Thirsty reading party i agree but maybe they think she's priced out. tbf i'm sure everyone else thought that too. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2794150&forum_id=2#27204785) |
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Date: January 28th, 2015 5:40 PM Author: Irate useless brakes there's this from the article:
"Zeitzer’s latest move comes nearly four years after Paul Weiss raided O’Melveny for seven corporate and transactional partners, many of whom also continue to do work for Apollo. The firm counts Apollo among its most active and largest clients, advising it on the close of its latest $17.5 billion fund last January, as well as representing it on its $2.5 billion acquisition of McGraw Hill’s education unit in 2012, among others."
maybe she wanted to be with her old team? that and a pay match or slight pay bump might've been sufficient. or maybe her sugar daddy gc at Apollo advised her to move, since they're already doing a lot of work with PW. |
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Date: January 28th, 2015 5:43 PM Author: Thirsty reading party Possible.
Kirkland sucks ass to work at, I know that much. Even a match might have been good enough to get her to leave. |
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Date: January 28th, 2015 5:47 PM Author: galvanic circlehead we can both agree that kirkland is fucking awful (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2794150&forum_id=2#27204855) |
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Date: January 28th, 2015 5:25 PM Author: Talented spruce garrison PW does not have a terrible corp. department. where have you been for the past 5-7 years? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2794150&forum_id=2#27204761) |
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Date: January 28th, 2015 5:25 PM Author: Thirsty reading party they've been buying a lot of books of business, i will give them that, but their reputation is poor. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2794150&forum_id=2#27204769) |
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Date: January 28th, 2015 5:17 PM Author: odious hall chad CR (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2794150&forum_id=2#27204725) |
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Date: January 29th, 2015 8:56 AM Author: maroon spot What if he told you he got $1 million more each time? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2794150&forum_id=2#27208394) |
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Date: January 28th, 2015 5:07 PM Author: Thirsty reading party ti,oc,tcr (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2794150&forum_id=2#27204685) |
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Date: January 28th, 2015 4:49 PM Author: vibrant selfie property Her mentor left her old firm and now runs appolo legal. She was made partner and has been jumping ships for the last 10 years since she owns the relationship (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2794150&forum_id=2#27204593) |
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Date: January 28th, 2015 4:53 PM Author: Irate useless brakes not that she didn't work hard to get respect and is a good lawyer, but it's crazy how one single relationship can be so valuable. her entire career, now including $7 million guaranteed payouts annually, is based on being tight with this guy. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2794150&forum_id=2#27204613) |
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Date: January 28th, 2015 4:54 PM Author: galvanic circlehead yeah, a lot of it is just luck. there are a lot of good lawyers out there, but one lucky relationship like this and you are set. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2794150&forum_id=2#27204619) |
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Date: January 28th, 2015 4:55 PM Author: pearl business firm telephone imagine the kickbacks possible as a GC of a fund that pays out as much in legal fees as Apollo. And not just yankees tickets. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2794150&forum_id=2#27204625) |
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Date: January 29th, 2015 12:58 AM Author: rebellious charcoal lay cr...if i was gc she'd be paying my mortgage (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2794150&forum_id=2#27207611) |
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Date: January 29th, 2015 12:57 AM Author: Provocative hell partner This / a million more each time (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2794150&forum_id=2#27207603) |
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Date: January 28th, 2015 4:50 PM Author: Contagious Old Irish Cottage Article said a dood from her firm went to Apollo as chief counsel, so he clearly just loved her and honestly probably got his knob shined daily (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2794150&forum_id=2#27204596) |
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Date: January 28th, 2015 4:51 PM Author: Appetizing Mildly Autistic Principal's Office Sound Barrier or, maybe she fucked the right people? had blackmail on the right people? is super machiaveelian? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2794150&forum_id=2#27204604) |
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Date: January 28th, 2015 4:53 PM Author: mind-boggling sanctuary striped hyena Maybe she is good at her job and they like her.
FUCK YOU MISOGYNIST FAGGOTS! |
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Date: January 28th, 2015 4:54 PM Author: Irate useless brakes titcr (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2794150&forum_id=2#27204616) |
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Date: January 28th, 2015 4:56 PM Author: Appetizing Mildly Autistic Principal's Office Sound Barrier (rudolph) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2794150&forum_id=2#27204633) |
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Date: January 28th, 2015 4:57 PM Author: fantasy-prone swashbuckling headpube national security agency this is a woman we are talking about, be realistic (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2794150&forum_id=2#27204638) |
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Date: January 28th, 2015 5:05 PM Author: Thirsty reading party lol Rudolph (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2794150&forum_id=2#27204676) |
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Date: January 28th, 2015 5:08 PM Author: Orchid Den You can count on one hand the number of partners under 45 in NYC who have this level of success. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2794150&forum_id=2#27204689) |
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Date: January 28th, 2015 5:10 PM Author: Aphrodisiac jade idiot Jew. Female.
That is all that is needed to understand this. |
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Date: January 28th, 2015 5:10 PM Author: Appetizing Mildly Autistic Principal's Office Sound Barrier (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2794150&forum_id=2#27204696) |
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Date: January 28th, 2015 5:13 PM Author: sable unhinged hominid puppy no matter how much money this dumb bitch makes it will not replace her dead ovaries (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2794150&forum_id=2#27204710) |
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Date: January 28th, 2015 5:14 PM Author: Aphrodisiac jade idiot Oh man nutella is about to json your ass. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2794150&forum_id=2#27204714) |
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Date: January 28th, 2015 5:20 PM Author: odious hall chad Surrogate BRO (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2794150&forum_id=2#27204746) |
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Date: January 28th, 2015 5:14 PM Author: Talented spruce garrison the poasts ITT are MAF.
OMG she left for more money - what a cunt! |
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Date: January 28th, 2015 5:14 PM Author: iridescent motley base cr
"Oh, pay me $3 million more? No, that's ok, I'll just stay at this firm." |
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Date: January 28th, 2015 5:19 PM Author: odious hall chad "The other Kirkland partners are really nice though." (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2794150&forum_id=2#27204736) |
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Date: January 28th, 2015 5:20 PM Author: odious hall chad (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2794150&forum_id=2#27204739) |
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Date: January 28th, 2015 10:59 PM Author: Splenetic Corner (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2794150&forum_id=2#27206883) |
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Date: January 28th, 2015 11:03 PM Author: rebellious charcoal lay tcr (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2794150&forum_id=2#27206912) |
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Date: January 29th, 2015 1:02 AM Author: Provocative hell partner Not MAF, just shows how important blowing a GC is (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2794150&forum_id=2#27207637) |
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Date: January 29th, 2015 1:04 AM Author: rebellious charcoal lay breaking news -- relationships are all that matter in a service industry! (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2794150&forum_id=2#27207645) |
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Date: January 29th, 2015 1:13 AM Author: Provocative hell partner Agreed. Now that I am inhouse, need to plot a way to get biglaw shrews to blow me for biz (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2794150&forum_id=2#27207700) |
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Date: January 28th, 2015 11:18 PM Author: trip jew Since no one else has said it i'll just point out she might have been a nice piece back in the day (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2794150&forum_id=2#27207030) |
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Date: January 29th, 2015 1:15 AM Author: rose misunderstood box office ONE | BIG | CLIENT (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2794150&forum_id=2#27207714) |
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Date: January 29th, 2015 1:15 AM Author: Peach irradiated theater mother if she won the lottery she wouldnt need to work. winning the lottery wouldve been a better deal for her.
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