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Date: January 29th, 2015 10:31 AM Author: chest-beating legend striped hyena Wisconsin Gov. Scott Walker, defending proposed budget cuts for higher education, took a swipe at university professors who he said could be “teaching more classes and doing more work.”
“Maybe it’s time for faculty and staff to start thinking about teaching more classes and doing more work and this authority frees up the [University of Wisconsin] administration to make those sorts of requests,” Walker (R) said Wednesday on Iowa radio station WTMJ.
Walker’s comments came as he spoke about his proposed budget, which would cut $300 million over the next two years from the University of Wisconsin system. He added the school would still receive block grants.
Walker said his proposal would hold the university accountable and “puts the ball clearly in their court.”
His proposed budget, Walker said, would free the administration “from shared governance,” which he said “kept the university from directly running things” as it needed to make decisions with faculty.
The Republican said the university’s system will “have to be more effective, more efficient.”
Walker, who does not have a college degree of his own, noted that he has a child at the University of Wisconsin.
“So, of course I have a vested interest in making sure that works well,” he said, and also pointed to his Democratic predecessor, Gov. Jim Doyle, who, he said, had made similar cuts during his first term.
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Date: January 29th, 2015 12:49 PM Author: Maniacal canary coldplay fan i chuckle at this moniker. lol (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2794653&forum_id=2#27209261) |
Date: January 29th, 2015 10:33 AM Author: supple bright sound barrier stage prob more excuse for UW to jack up tuition (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2794653&forum_id=2#27208714) |
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Date: January 29th, 2015 11:00 AM Author: rusted french heaven cr
I don't see how this isn't going to end up pwning students in the end. It's too bad too, because UW had been one of the best values in higher education.
Undergrad resident tuition is $10,410, with nonresidents at $26,660.
http://finaid.wisc.edu/undergraduate-cost.htm
At Michigan, resident tuition is about $14k with nonresident tuition being as high as $45k. Ho lee fuk that nonresident figure is out of control.
http://admissions.umich.edu/costs-aid/costs |
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Date: January 29th, 2015 11:02 AM Author: brass set Just do admit fewer Wisconsin residents and more full-price-paying Chinese. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2794653&forum_id=2#27208779) |
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Date: January 29th, 2015 11:02 AM Author: razzle whorehouse filthpig tbf this solves everything (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2794653&forum_id=2#27208783) |
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Date: January 29th, 2015 11:02 AM Author: razzle whorehouse filthpig 180 (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2794653&forum_id=2#27208781) |
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Date: January 29th, 2015 11:07 AM Author: High-end startling national security agency partner (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2794653&forum_id=2#27208805) |
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Date: January 29th, 2015 11:05 AM Author: saffron candlestick maker The governor doesn't have a fucking bachelor's degree? Is it 1850? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2794653&forum_id=2#27208791) |
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Date: January 29th, 2015 11:06 AM Author: razzle whorehouse filthpig Two of the four presidents on Mount Rushmore never went to college!!!! (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2794653&forum_id=2#27208796) |
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Date: January 29th, 2015 11:08 AM Author: saffron candlestick maker Was that before or after they were elected President? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2794653&forum_id=2#27208816) |
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Date: January 29th, 2015 11:07 AM Author: Burgundy bonkers tattoo rudolph plz proclaim him DUNN HEAR (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2794653&forum_id=2#27208807) |
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Date: January 29th, 2015 11:07 AM Author: Burgundy bonkers tattoo no names like Harry Truman? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2794653&forum_id=2#27208811) |
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Date: January 29th, 2015 11:13 AM Author: saffron candlestick maker Harry Truman was born in the 1800s brother. College was different back then. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2794653&forum_id=2#27208841) |
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Date: January 29th, 2015 11:42 AM Author: Zombie-like violent field gaping Yeah, you learned something. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2794653&forum_id=2#27208950) |
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Date: January 29th, 2015 11:52 AM Author: saffron candlestick maker (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2794653&forum_id=2#27208995) |
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Date: January 29th, 2015 1:03 PM Author: House-broken thriller den (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2794653&forum_id=2#27209332) |
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Date: January 29th, 2015 1:08 PM Author: light milk box office (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2794653&forum_id=2#27209356) |
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Date: January 30th, 2015 1:09 AM Author: High-end startling national security agency partner (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2794653&forum_id=2#27214138) |
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Date: January 29th, 2015 11:09 AM Author: poppy lodge He's going to be the GOP presidential nominee too. Going to be really interesting to see how the degree issue plays out. Many of the left will totally miscalculate how average voters are going to receive the message. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2794653&forum_id=2#27208824) |
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Date: January 29th, 2015 1:12 PM Author: buck-toothed round eye resort Why are you talking about "the left"?
This moron won't get out of the primaries. |
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Date: January 29th, 2015 2:08 PM Author: poppy lodge "He's going to be the GOP presidential nominee too." (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2794653&forum_id=2#27209705) |
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Date: January 29th, 2015 11:09 AM Author: rusted french heaven He dropped out of Marquette after his junior year.
His line has been that he dropped out of school because he had a decent job offer. There are a lot of rumors that there was more to it than that though. |
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Date: January 29th, 2015 11:11 AM Author: poppy lodge "a lot of rumors" = Dems wishful thinking
the guy has endured 3 uber-contentious elections in 4 years and nobody could find this skeleton in his closet. Tens of millions of dollars from the DNC and labor unions went into fighting him and failed. |
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Date: January 29th, 2015 11:12 AM Author: saffron candlestick maker If he got grade kicked out, that shit will leak if he runs for POTUS. OFS. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2794653&forum_id=2#27208840) |
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Date: January 29th, 2015 11:43 AM Author: Zombie-like violent field gaping Yeah, but it would never have been leaked in three elections for Gov, including a nasty recall. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2794653&forum_id=2#27208956) |
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Date: January 29th, 2015 11:45 AM Author: Burgundy bonkers tattoo When Obama runs for POTUS the second time, THEN we'll find the Kenyan birth certificate!!! (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2794653&forum_id=2#27208963) |
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Date: January 29th, 2015 12:06 PM Author: Ivory disturbing indian lodge ROFL (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2794653&forum_id=2#27209055) |
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Date: January 29th, 2015 12:50 PM Author: Seedy Wild Sanctuary (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2794653&forum_id=2#27209269) |
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Date: January 29th, 2015 11:59 AM Author: saffron candlestick maker Bro, the scrutiny is 100x greater if he becomes the GOP POTUS candidate. Don't be stupid. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2794653&forum_id=2#27209025) |
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Date: January 29th, 2015 12:09 PM Author: rusted french heaven I agree with what you're getting at, but that type of character assassination doesn't work as well when the electorate is strongly engaged on the issues.
The voters in Wisconsin wanted to see the public unions gutted. Whether or not Scotty got kicked out of school for shit grades or plagiarism or something twenty years ago is pretty irrelevant. |
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Date: January 29th, 2015 12:17 PM Author: Ivory disturbing indian lodge if it was plagarism or cheating or domestic violence, it would be relevant.
if it was because he sucked as a student or didn't got to class, not relevant.
the only argument that it would be relevant is that he is not "an image of what we want our children to aspire to" - and the concern would be that children would be less likely to aspire to go to college because their president didn't go to college. I don't think that is a valid concern, and if anything we should be sending a message that NOT EVERYONE NEEDS TO GO TO COLLEGE. |
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Date: January 30th, 2015 1:10 AM Author: High-end startling national security agency partner Ljl at libs trying to trot out that line. They're the ones constantly glamorizing weed use and treason and other wacky ahit, who are they to talk about impressionable kids (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2794653&forum_id=2#27214145) |
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Date: January 29th, 2015 11:13 AM Author: Exhilarant Casino LOL at the pathetic elitism of people regarding the college education of somebody who clearly didn't need it to be successful. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2794653&forum_id=2#27208842) |
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Date: January 29th, 2015 11:14 AM Author: poppy lodge This would be the miscalculation I referenced above. In a time of insane college costs and college degrees being utterly worthless for so many people in terms of finding jobs and careers, this "but he has no degree!" insult is going to backfire if the Dems are sloppy in how they use it. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2794653&forum_id=2#27208844) |
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Date: January 29th, 2015 1:13 PM Author: buck-toothed round eye resort Who gives a fuck about the Democrats?
He has no shot of getting out of the primaries. |
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Date: January 29th, 2015 11:47 AM Author: nudist useless brakes I think most people, regardless of how educated they themselves are, would feel that graduating from a college is a prerequisite to serving as the president of the united states.
It's weird to me that often the right argues that people are smarter *because* they have succeeded without college degrees. Successful doesn't equal smart. |
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Date: January 29th, 2015 11:48 AM Author: Burgundy bonkers tattoo And smart doesn't equal successful. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2794653&forum_id=2#27208970) |
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Date: January 29th, 2015 11:49 AM Author: nudist useless brakes True but in terms of president if you can only get one, take smart (GWB anybody?) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2794653&forum_id=2#27208974) |
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Date: January 29th, 2015 11:51 AM Author: Burgundy bonkers tattoo (Jimmy Carter anybody?) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2794653&forum_id=2#27208989) |
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Date: January 29th, 2015 11:53 AM Author: nudist useless brakes Not trying to get into this, but have to say that the amount of money Bush spent on tax cuts and military is unprecedented. Obama was a gift for every GOP legislator because it allowed this to be swept aside and conservatives literally just don't talk about it. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2794653&forum_id=2#27208997) |
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Date: January 29th, 2015 11:57 AM Author: chest-beating legend striped hyena i feel like the non-breit bart population talks about this plenty when, e.g., explaining why we have a calamitous national debt (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2794653&forum_id=2#27209013) |
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Date: January 29th, 2015 11:57 AM Author: Burgundy bonkers tattoo lolno, JFK's tax cuts as % of federal budget were larger than all three GWB tax cuts combined. http://taxfoundation.org/article/comparing-kennedy-reagan-and-bush-tax-cuts and LOL@ "zomg Bush spent money on military!!!" We had two wars Congress started, bitch. |
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Date: January 29th, 2015 11:58 AM Author: chest-beating legend striped hyena but JFK had a progressive middle class tax cut and GWB had a progressive trickle down tax cut that had 0 multiplier effect (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2794653&forum_id=2#27209020) |
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Date: January 29th, 2015 12:03 PM Author: chest-beating legend striped hyena *regressive (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2794653&forum_id=2#27209045) |
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Date: January 29th, 2015 12:03 PM Author: nudist useless brakes Maybe, the article notes how difficult it is to compare these. Nevertheless, taking 8.1% out of a budget that's 55.2% domestic spending (Bush) has a much more deleterious economic effect than taking 8.80% out of a budget that's 42.1% defense and only 36.3% domestic spending(JFK)
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Date: January 29th, 2015 12:01 PM Author: Ivory disturbing indian lodge This. Fiscal conservatism died a long time ago. Even Reagan spent a shitton of money. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2794653&forum_id=2#27209032) |
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Date: January 29th, 2015 12:05 PM Author: Zombie-like violent field gaping Agreed (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2794653&forum_id=2#27209050) |
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Date: January 29th, 2015 12:04 PM Author: Zombie-like violent field gaping LOLOLOLOL
"The money Bush spent on tax cuts"
LIBS ARE FUCKING INSANE |
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Date: January 29th, 2015 12:06 PM Author: Ivory disturbing indian lodge it's true bro. You can support tax cuts but to not view them as an expense is silly.
We need to raise taxes and cut spending. This has been true for at least 15 years, arguably more like 30 years. Bush lowered taxes and dramatically raised spending.
Obama wants to raise taxes and dramatically raise spending more. I don't agree with how he wants to raise taxes exactly, of course. |
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Date: January 29th, 2015 12:08 PM Author: chest-beating legend striped hyena ITS CALLED BALANCE (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2794653&forum_id=2#27209058) |
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Date: January 29th, 2015 12:08 PM Author: Zombie-like violent field gaping (Gorbachev) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2794653&forum_id=2#27209061) |
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Date: January 29th, 2015 12:08 PM Author: nudist useless brakes Let me simplify the economics for you. When it isn't a revenue neutral tax cut, the government still spent the money, they're just going to get it from someone else, later. So yes, tax cuts without a corresponding decrease in spending is still "spending" the money.
As an aside, in the new congress GOP has introduced I believe 10-20 bills to require balancing of the federal budget. They have not ever even presented a balanced budget, as far as I know. |
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Date: January 29th, 2015 12:11 PM Author: Ivory disturbing indian lodge sometimes you need to burn your ships before you make yourself eat your indentured servants bro. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2794653&forum_id=2#27209071) |
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Date: January 29th, 2015 12:13 PM Author: Zombie-like violent field gaping I agree that spending is in effect, taxation, and taxation is just who pays when. But the mindset to say a tax cut is an expense to the govt is wrong. From that mindset, anything less than total income and asset confiscation is a govt expense. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2794653&forum_id=2#27209076) |
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Date: January 29th, 2015 12:44 PM Author: Bat-shit-crazy brunch stain libs have been pushing tax cuts and tax breaks as "revenue expenditures" for years. and they have a cute little song and dance they do to justify it. anyone with a brain knows this is pure fucking libspeak, meant to shame taxpayers about keeping their own fucking money. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2794653&forum_id=2#27209233) |
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Date: January 29th, 2015 12:47 PM Author: chest-beating legend striped hyena well i think its just to force people to recognize that govt is about choices and you cant have your cake and eat it too...u love your social security and medicare and roads and police and military and flight controllers and food regulators and border patrol but you hate paying taxes? *willy wonka resting his chin on his fist* tell me more (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2794653&forum_id=2#27209247) |
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Date: January 29th, 2015 12:49 PM Author: Bat-shit-crazy brunch stain i understand that but it begs the question and assumes that spending the money is not a choice. it's more about branding and not-so-subtle persuasion than a discussion about choices. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2794653&forum_id=2#27209263) |
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Date: January 29th, 2015 12:52 PM Author: chest-beating legend striped hyena agreed. i think the "pro-govt" party is smart (and responsible) for trying to cast the decision this way. of course conservatives can cry tax and spend but using the budgetary angle to drive home why tax cuts arent always possible or a good idea (though i think every lib also agrees that in many instances they are a great idea, see e.g., 2009 stimulus) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2794653&forum_id=2#27209284) |
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Date: January 29th, 2015 12:55 PM Author: Seedy Wild Sanctuary (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2794653&forum_id=2#27209298) |
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Date: January 29th, 2015 2:02 PM Author: nudist useless brakes No, but you're right that I should have qualified it as "deficit spending" rather than just spending. The tax cut, when spending remains higher, turns funded spending into deficit spending. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2794653&forum_id=2#27209668) |
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Date: January 29th, 2015 2:04 PM Author: Zombie-like violent field gaping Only if you are to the left of the peak on the laffer curve. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2794653&forum_id=2#27209683) |
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Date: January 29th, 2015 2:08 PM Author: nudist useless brakes Annnnnd that should do it here.
Laffer was interviewed recently about the KS budget deficit, and basically said, hmmm that's weird, all my research indicates the tax cuts should be working, let's look at a different low tax state. |
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Date: January 29th, 2015 2:51 PM Author: Zombie-like violent field gaping Eh, there are a lot more variables than tax rates. All things equal, lower taxes increases just about every positive measure of QOL and it's really not debatable. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2794653&forum_id=2#27210011) |
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Date: January 29th, 2015 12:00 PM Author: Zombie-like violent field gaping GWB has at least a 120 IQ (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2794653&forum_id=2#27209029) |
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Date: January 29th, 2015 1:06 PM Author: House-broken thriller den but he has a southern accent (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2794653&forum_id=2#27209342) |
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Date: January 29th, 2015 11:50 AM Author: Ivory disturbing indian lodge i also used to think that having some legislative experience was a requirement, but then Obama won.
These days it is more about narrative than your qualifications. Libs can't have it both ways on this. Picking getting a BA at a left-leaning academic institution as a prerequisite is just being disingenuous. It might have made sense in the 1980s but we've moved beyond that now. |
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Date: January 29th, 2015 11:54 AM Author: chest-beating legend striped hyena lolololol BHO had 11 years of legislative experience before becoming prez (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2794653&forum_id=2#27209002) |
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Date: January 29th, 2015 11:59 AM Author: Ivory disturbing indian lodge and no one can remember anything he accomplished during his prestigious career in the Illinois state senate. What they can remember is that he spent most of the time running for president.
And that's OK, because no one elected him for his experience or because they thought he would be a good political manager or Washington playmaker like Lyndon Johnson (which he has shown that he isn't). They elected him because he represented crazy left-wing shitlib values (MORE MONEY FOR DEM PROGRAMS!! LET'S TALK ABOUT RACE ALL THE TIME!!).
Walker is like the right wing crazy version of that. I wouldn't vote for him, but to call him out for not getting a BA at an appropriate liberally influenced college is LOL. Focus on his views instead. |
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Date: January 29th, 2015 12:01 PM Author: chest-beating legend striped hyena agreed with most of those points. except his 7 years in Il legislator was decorated:
Obama gained bipartisan support for legislation that reformed ethics and health care laws.[52] He sponsored a law that increased tax credits for low-income workers, negotiated welfare reform, and promoted increased subsidies for childcare. n 2001, as co-chairman of the bipartisan Joint Committee on Administrative Rules, Obama supported Republican Governor Ryan's payday loan regulations and predatory mortgage lending regulations aimed at averting home foreclosures.
In January 2003, Obama became chairman of the Illinois Senate's Health and Human Services Committee when Democrats, after a decade in the minority, regained a majority.[57] He sponsored and led unanimous, bipartisan passage of legislation to monitor racial profiling by requiring police to record the race of drivers they detained, and legislation making Illinois the first state to mandate videotaping of homicide interrogations.[53][58] During his 2004 general election campaign for U.S. Senate, police representatives credited Obama for his active engagement with police organizations in enacting death penalty reforms |
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Date: January 29th, 2015 12:03 PM Author: Ivory disturbing indian lodge are you flaming me bro? He passed some unanimous legislation? That's his resume after 7 years?
Oh, and was this while Michelle was randomly getting highly paid hospital jobs for which no one can remember what she was doing?
http://www.factcheck.org/2009/05/michelle-obamas-salary/ |
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Date: January 29th, 2015 12:06 PM Author: chest-beating legend striped hyena haha well hes a state legislature...not the green lantern... i think you underestimate drastically how easy it is to get things done. most state legislatures coast through votes on whether to make the state potato red bliss and then go home and fuck their interns...
and yea im sure most URM HLS grads have trouble finding high paid work in chicago |
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Date: January 29th, 2015 12:10 PM Author: Ivory disturbing indian lodge I'm not going to sit here and debate you, Jerry. I'm not going to sit here and debate. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2794653&forum_id=2#27209068) |
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Date: January 29th, 2015 12:17 PM Author: chest-beating legend striped hyena (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2794653&forum_id=2#27209086) |
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Date: January 29th, 2015 1:07 PM Author: light milk box office i'd rather have a successful president than a smart one, for one (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2794653&forum_id=2#27209354) |
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Date: January 29th, 2015 11:49 AM Author: supple bright sound barrier stage will Walker's hairline survive a POTUS campaign (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2794653&forum_id=2#27208976) |
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Date: January 29th, 2015 11:52 AM Author: nudist useless brakes http://www.theonion.com/articles/bobby-jindal-not-sure-he-willing-to-put-family-thr,37864/ (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2794653&forum_id=2#27208992) |
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Date: January 29th, 2015 12:04 PM Author: Ivory disturbing indian lodge 180 (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2794653&forum_id=2#27209048) |
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Date: January 29th, 2015 12:41 PM Author: light milk box office "who doesn't have a degree of his own" lol jfc libs |
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Date: January 30th, 2015 1:06 AM Author: Glittery Meetinghouse It's not 300 million of cuts to UW-Madison. It's cuts to UW-Madison but also the other random UW schools. They'll be fine.
Wisconsin used to be a great deal, much better deal than Michigan, but it'll jack up tuition and bring in more Chinese. |
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Date: January 30th, 2015 8:40 AM Author: bistre jew really tough guy These schools should just charge chinks like $50K (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2794653&forum_id=2#27214666) |