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Outnumbered bearded indirect expression orchestra pit
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Outnumbered bearded indirect expression orchestra pit
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Why?
offensive dilemma coffee pot
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Outnumbered bearded indirect expression orchestra pit
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What's was your genetic potential?
Hairraiser site double fault
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Outnumbered bearded indirect expression orchestra pit
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Post ur fucking stats
Frum haunted graveyard meetinghouse
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Outnumbered bearded indirect expression orchestra pit
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I hope you're tall otherwise this is not close a genetic pot...
Frum haunted graveyard meetinghouse
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Outnumbered bearded indirect expression orchestra pit
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If you think you've peaked at 170lbs, unless you have a cri...
Frum haunted graveyard meetinghouse
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Outnumbered bearded indirect expression orchestra pit
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Height, weigth, arm size, quad size, chest size, or anything...
Hairraiser site double fault
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Outnumbered bearded indirect expression orchestra pit
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pic of goal physique?
Hairraiser site double fault
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dude he's 170lbs and he thinks he's hit his genetic potentia...
Frum haunted graveyard meetinghouse
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Outnumbered bearded indirect expression orchestra pit
  02/25/15
well good luck
Frum haunted graveyard meetinghouse
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Zyzz
Outnumbered bearded indirect expression orchestra pit
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Outnumbered bearded indirect expression orchestra pit
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Outnumbered bearded indirect expression orchestra pit
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I fucked my liver drinking otherwise I would be
Hairraiser site double fault
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Outnumbered bearded indirect expression orchestra pit
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ROFL I thought you said you were smart???
Frum haunted graveyard meetinghouse
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Outnumbered bearded indirect expression orchestra pit
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Your liver is going to break down chemicals in your blood re...
Frum haunted graveyard meetinghouse
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If Zyzz is your goal physique you're gonna have to cycle tre...
talking citrine temple
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Outnumbered bearded indirect expression orchestra pit
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Trenbolone is a fucking bovine steroid super drug that easil...
talking citrine temple
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Outnumbered bearded indirect expression orchestra pit
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It's a strong anabolic that also increases hematocrit (red b...
talking citrine temple
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How do you know what zyzz was taking? He wasn't really that...
Frum haunted graveyard meetinghouse
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Outnumbered bearded indirect expression orchestra pit
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His cycles are out there. 6'1 205 is big for a guy at 6-8% b...
talking citrine temple
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rofl
Frum haunted graveyard meetinghouse
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Outnumbered bearded indirect expression orchestra pit
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Test and anavar is the classic noob cycle because the side e...
talking citrine temple
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Outnumbered bearded indirect expression orchestra pit
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Nowhere in particular, just gleaned from years of being arou...
talking citrine temple
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Outnumbered bearded indirect expression orchestra pit
  02/25/15
I was referring to other steroids. Not sure about the PCT ph...
talking citrine temple
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Outnumbered bearded indirect expression orchestra pit
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time to put your homosexual bodybuilding obsession aside, ch...
Cerebral Idea He Suggested
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Outnumbered bearded indirect expression orchestra pit
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take up cycling or running, far better for mood and wellbein...
Cerebral Idea He Suggested
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Outnumbered bearded indirect expression orchestra pit
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no yes
Frum haunted graveyard meetinghouse
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Outnumbered bearded indirect expression orchestra pit
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Have you seen flex wheeler lately?
Frum haunted graveyard meetinghouse
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Outnumbered bearded indirect expression orchestra pit
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Jose Canseco? I'm not saying roids can't be done in a lim...
Frum haunted graveyard meetinghouse
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Outnumbered bearded indirect expression orchestra pit
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A quick note on "genetic potential" There's Gen...
offensive dilemma coffee pot
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Maybe 10% is aggressive. I'll say 12-13%
offensive dilemma coffee pot
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I literally cannot go under 12% without my muscles wasting a...
talking citrine temple
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Outnumbered bearded indirect expression orchestra pit
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Outnumbered bearded indirect expression orchestra pit
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(skinny twink)
Frum haunted graveyard meetinghouse
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(5'9 manlet)
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Date: February 25th, 2015 6:34 PM
Author: Outnumbered bearded indirect expression orchestra pit



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Date: February 25th, 2015 6:38 PM
Author: Outnumbered bearded indirect expression orchestra pit



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Date: February 25th, 2015 6:41 PM
Author: offensive dilemma coffee pot

Why?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2817614&forum_id=2#27390978)



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Date: February 25th, 2015 6:47 PM
Author: Outnumbered bearded indirect expression orchestra pit



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Date: February 25th, 2015 7:00 PM
Author: Hairraiser site double fault

What's was your genetic potential?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2817614&forum_id=2#27391099)



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Date: February 25th, 2015 7:04 PM
Author: Outnumbered bearded indirect expression orchestra pit



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2817614&forum_id=2#27391121)



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Date: February 25th, 2015 7:09 PM
Author: Frum haunted graveyard meetinghouse

Post ur fucking stats

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2817614&forum_id=2#27391158)



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Date: February 25th, 2015 7:18 PM
Author: Outnumbered bearded indirect expression orchestra pit



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2817614&forum_id=2#27391243)



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Date: February 25th, 2015 7:21 PM
Author: Frum haunted graveyard meetinghouse

I hope you're tall otherwise this is not close a genetic potential.

Edit: LMAO you're 5'10 170? LOILOL brother are you like 20? You're no where close to your genetic potential. As 5'9 212 I did 365/470/500+.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2817614&forum_id=2#27391278)



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Date: February 25th, 2015 7:24 PM
Author: Outnumbered bearded indirect expression orchestra pit



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2817614&forum_id=2#27391305)



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Date: February 25th, 2015 7:27 PM
Author: Frum haunted graveyard meetinghouse

If you think you've peaked at 170lbs, unless you have a crippling disease or genetic disorder, you're wrong. You could easily put on 30-40 lbs of muscle and your lifts would be off the charts.

EVERYTIME I thought I hit my potential and lost motivation I'd quit for 5-6 months, then come back and blow past my previous peaks. It's mostly mental.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2817614&forum_id=2#27391339)



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Date: February 25th, 2015 7:33 PM
Author: Outnumbered bearded indirect expression orchestra pit



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2817614&forum_id=2#27391384)



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Date: February 25th, 2015 7:12 PM
Author: Hairraiser site double fault

Height, weigth, arm size, quad size, chest size, or anything like that you can tell us. Did you use one of those genetic calculator things?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2817614&forum_id=2#27391179)



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Date: February 25th, 2015 7:17 PM
Author: Outnumbered bearded indirect expression orchestra pit



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2817614&forum_id=2#27391223)



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Date: February 25th, 2015 7:19 PM
Author: Hairraiser site double fault

pic of goal physique?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2817614&forum_id=2#27391259)



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Date: February 25th, 2015 7:24 PM
Author: Frum haunted graveyard meetinghouse

dude he's 170lbs and he thinks he's hit his genetic potential. He's a fucking moron. Don't engage him.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2817614&forum_id=2#27391297)



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Date: February 25th, 2015 7:30 PM
Author: Outnumbered bearded indirect expression orchestra pit



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2817614&forum_id=2#27391365)



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Date: February 25th, 2015 7:33 PM
Author: Frum haunted graveyard meetinghouse

well good luck

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2817614&forum_id=2#27391390)



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Date: February 25th, 2015 7:25 PM
Author: Outnumbered bearded indirect expression orchestra pit

Zyzz

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2817614&forum_id=2#27391308)



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Date: February 25th, 2015 7:26 PM
Author: Outnumbered bearded indirect expression orchestra pit



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2817614&forum_id=2#27391328)



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Date: February 25th, 2015 6:48 PM
Author: Outnumbered bearded indirect expression orchestra pit



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2817614&forum_id=2#27391017)



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Date: February 25th, 2015 7:36 PM
Author: Outnumbered bearded indirect expression orchestra pit



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2817614&forum_id=2#27391418)



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Date: February 25th, 2015 7:41 PM
Author: Hairraiser site double fault

I fucked my liver drinking otherwise I would be

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2817614&forum_id=2#27391451)



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Date: February 25th, 2015 7:49 PM
Author: Outnumbered bearded indirect expression orchestra pit



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2817614&forum_id=2#27391507)



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Date: February 25th, 2015 8:15 PM
Author: Frum haunted graveyard meetinghouse

ROFL I thought you said you were smart???

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2817614&forum_id=2#27391705)



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Date: February 25th, 2015 8:24 PM
Author: Outnumbered bearded indirect expression orchestra pit



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2817614&forum_id=2#27391748)



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Date: February 25th, 2015 8:44 PM
Author: Frum haunted graveyard meetinghouse

Your liver is going to break down chemicals in your blood regardless of how they enter the bloodstream

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2817614&forum_id=2#27391907)



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Date: February 25th, 2015 7:49 PM
Author: talking citrine temple

If Zyzz is your goal physique you're gonna have to cycle tren at some point, which is some pretty serious shit from what I've heard. Other than that it sounds like a good, conservative plan. But yeah to get to Zyzz's level a few test + anavar cycles aren't going to cut it.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2817614&forum_id=2#27391503)



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Date: February 25th, 2015 7:50 PM
Author: Outnumbered bearded indirect expression orchestra pit



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2817614&forum_id=2#27391516)



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Date: February 25th, 2015 7:57 PM
Author: talking citrine temple

Trenbolone is a fucking bovine steroid super drug that easily outperforms any human grade anabolic. Zyzz stacked huge amounts of tren along with 3-4 other steroids almost continuously to achieve his look. The tren probably caused his heart to enlarge too, it's a serious drug. Plus he was taking DNP and clen to cut. Stick with your original plan, but don't expect a physique like Zyzz.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2817614&forum_id=2#27391575)



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Date: February 25th, 2015 8:04 PM
Author: Outnumbered bearded indirect expression orchestra pit



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2817614&forum_id=2#27391610)



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Date: February 25th, 2015 8:09 PM
Author: talking citrine temple

It's a strong anabolic that also increases hematocrit (red blood cells). Endurance athletes like it for this reason, but you better pop aspirin every day cause your blood will definitely thicken.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2817614&forum_id=2#27391661)



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Date: February 25th, 2015 8:18 PM
Author: Frum haunted graveyard meetinghouse

How do you know what zyzz was taking? He wasn't really that big. 6'1 205?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2817614&forum_id=2#27391719)



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Date: February 25th, 2015 8:26 PM
Author: Outnumbered bearded indirect expression orchestra pit



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2817614&forum_id=2#27391760)



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Date: February 25th, 2015 8:32 PM
Author: talking citrine temple

His cycles are out there. 6'1 205 is big for a guy at 6-8% body fat, especially a natural ectomorph like Zyzz (lol http://www.zyzz.com.au/wp-content/uploads/2013/05/zyzz-before-2.jpg )

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2817614&forum_id=2#27391818)



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Date: February 25th, 2015 8:48 PM
Author: Frum haunted graveyard meetinghouse

rofl

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2817614&forum_id=2#27391963)



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Date: February 25th, 2015 7:51 PM
Author: Outnumbered bearded indirect expression orchestra pit



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2817614&forum_id=2#27391526)



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Date: February 25th, 2015 8:05 PM
Author: talking citrine temple

Test and anavar is the classic noob cycle because the side effect profile is relatively tolerable, but it doesn't get you huge like tren. You can probably add 10 lbs of muscle on it. From what I've read you should start with test only to see how you respond, and then later add orals to the stack.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2817614&forum_id=2#27391622)



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Date: February 25th, 2015 8:14 PM
Author: Outnumbered bearded indirect expression orchestra pit



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2817614&forum_id=2#27391693)



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Date: February 25th, 2015 8:27 PM
Author: talking citrine temple

Nowhere in particular, just gleaned from years of being around different scenes where people were using. I should note that I've never actually taken anything myself.

The dosages you see on bodybuilding forums are higher than necessary IMO, unless you truly want to gain huge amounts of mass for a competition or something. You will make gains and get cut on half of what they recommend.

Good luck finding a legitimate doctor that will prescribe anything more than test.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2817614&forum_id=2#27391770)



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Date: February 25th, 2015 8:31 PM
Author: Outnumbered bearded indirect expression orchestra pit



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2817614&forum_id=2#27391810)



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Date: February 25th, 2015 8:44 PM
Author: talking citrine temple

I was referring to other steroids. Not sure about the PCT pharms, but those are aren't controlled substances and should be easy to order online.

Sounds like you've got a solid plan.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2817614&forum_id=2#27391910)



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Date: February 25th, 2015 8:48 PM
Author: Outnumbered bearded indirect expression orchestra pit



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2817614&forum_id=2#27391957)



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Date: February 25th, 2015 8:22 PM
Author: Cerebral Idea He Suggested

time to put your homosexual bodybuilding obsession aside, child, if you're seriously considering steroids. take up a real sport

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2817614&forum_id=2#27391738)



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Date: February 25th, 2015 8:29 PM
Author: Outnumbered bearded indirect expression orchestra pit



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2817614&forum_id=2#27391783)



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Date: February 25th, 2015 8:33 PM
Author: Cerebral Idea He Suggested

take up cycling or running, far better for mood and wellbeing than pumping iron

you need professional (mental) help if you're bodybuilding fixation is so extreme that you're considering steroids

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2817614&forum_id=2#27391828)



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Date: February 25th, 2015 8:47 PM
Author: Outnumbered bearded indirect expression orchestra pit



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2817614&forum_id=2#27391946)



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Date: February 25th, 2015 8:49 PM
Author: Frum haunted graveyard meetinghouse

no

yes

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2817614&forum_id=2#27391967)



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Date: February 25th, 2015 8:53 PM
Author: Outnumbered bearded indirect expression orchestra pit



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Date: February 25th, 2015 9:01 PM
Author: Frum haunted graveyard meetinghouse

Have you seen flex wheeler lately?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2817614&forum_id=2#27392080)



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Date: February 25th, 2015 9:03 PM
Author: Outnumbered bearded indirect expression orchestra pit



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Date: February 25th, 2015 9:04 PM
Author: Frum haunted graveyard meetinghouse

Jose Canseco?

I'm not saying roids can't be done in a limited and relatively safe fashion, I just don't think they are worth the long term potential downside.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2817614&forum_id=2#27392098)



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Date: February 25th, 2015 9:12 PM
Author: Outnumbered bearded indirect expression orchestra pit



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2817614&forum_id=2#27392138)



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Date: February 25th, 2015 8:37 PM
Author: offensive dilemma coffee pot

A quick note on "genetic potential"

There's Genetic potential to get big and strong

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and then there's genetic potential to get bigger and stronger while still keeping bodyfat less than 10%.

IMHO, nothing is worth getting your body fat over 10%.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2817614&forum_id=2#27391861)



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Date: February 25th, 2015 8:45 PM
Author: offensive dilemma coffee pot

Maybe 10% is aggressive. I'll say 12-13%

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2817614&forum_id=2#27391923)



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Date: February 25th, 2015 8:48 PM
Author: talking citrine temple

I literally cannot go under 12% without my muscles wasting and feeling like absolute shit. IME very few (white) people can naturally maintain 8-10% body fat along with good muscle development.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2817614&forum_id=2#27391964)



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Date: February 25th, 2015 8:51 PM
Author: Outnumbered bearded indirect expression orchestra pit



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2817614&forum_id=2#27391986)



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Date: February 25th, 2015 8:49 PM
Author: Outnumbered bearded indirect expression orchestra pit



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2817614&forum_id=2#27391966)



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Date: February 25th, 2015 8:59 PM
Author: Frum haunted graveyard meetinghouse

(skinny twink)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2817614&forum_id=2#27392060)



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Date: February 25th, 2015 9:02 PM
Author: Outnumbered bearded indirect expression orchestra pit

(5'9 manlet)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2817614&forum_id=2#27392083)



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Date: February 26th, 2015 9:52 AM
Author: Outnumbered bearded indirect expression orchestra pit



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2817614&forum_id=2#27394396)