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ITT: Your FICO Score

These days you can get your FICO score, free. Just use Mint,...
mint useless brakes rehab
  02/25/15
how's you're mortgage?
Pea-brained electric furnace milk
  02/25/15
I rent. MFH.
mint useless brakes rehab
  02/25/15
then how is you're score so hi
Pea-brained electric furnace milk
  02/25/15
738. Was 795 before my most recent round of credit card chur...
Scarlet Mood Crackhouse
  02/25/15
Do you churn and burn for points?
mint useless brakes rehab
  02/25/15
Ofs
Scarlet Mood Crackhouse
  02/25/15
576
Razzmatazz Library Feces
  02/25/15
i feel like such a bum
Razzmatazz Library Feces
  02/25/15
How is this even possible?
Electric Khaki House
  02/25/15
decided to stop paying on a couple of credit cards. was 200 ...
Razzmatazz Library Feces
  02/25/15
deadbeat
Electric Khaki House
  02/25/15
bootlicker
Razzmatazz Library Feces
  02/25/15
tastes good man
Electric Khaki House
  02/25/15
...
Razzmatazz Library Feces
  02/25/15
...
Dashing yapping lodge yarmulke
  02/25/15
Nice. Mortgage or student loan payments (in good status)? Ju...
mint useless brakes rehab
  02/25/15
student loans
Dashing yapping lodge yarmulke
  02/25/15
Yea. They up my score as well.
mint useless brakes rehab
  02/25/15
670
umber arousing office liquid oxygen
  02/25/15
799 Fucking 1 nigga shrimp away Credit Karma is the be...
Flickering Glittery Senate
  02/25/15
This is a conversation about FICO, lel breh. Credit Karma d...
Disrespectful tanning salon
  02/25/15
...
violet embarrassed to the bone institution
  02/25/15
735 last time I checked. Fucking parents told me to never ge...
bat-shit-crazy locale
  02/25/15
814. Was sub-700 up until about 3 years ago.
mind-boggling base clown
  02/25/15
785 (and for bro's with discover cards, you can look it up f...
Histrionic Address Pisswyrm
  02/25/15
Doing this with three cards at the moment. 795.
Excitant fishy roast beef voyeur
  02/25/15
835 niggas
Electric Khaki House
  02/25/15
849
talented newt
  02/25/15
812 Transunion.. you MAD whitey?
filthy cream nibblets sweet tailpipe
  02/25/15
maybe someone can explain this. according to CreditKarma, my...
Sick stead
  02/25/15
its all fraud and lies, there are at least three major diff ...
filthy cream nibblets sweet tailpipe
  02/25/15
Discover is giving you the real FICO score that most lenders...
Histrionic Address Pisswyrm
  02/25/15
ty
Sick stead
  02/25/15
Mint actually gives FICO as well. But yea, many give the ...
mint useless brakes rehab
  02/25/15
Same here. CK says 740s, Mint says 799.
snowy bipolar regret
  02/25/15
those of you in the 800's need to get on dat credit card sig...
Sick stead
  02/25/15
at some point u can sign up for almost everything and cant g...
filthy cream nibblets sweet tailpipe
  02/25/15
yeah, at some point. some cards you can churn over and over....
Sick stead
  02/25/15
i feel like i have raped chase in the ass so many times that...
filthy cream nibblets sweet tailpipe
  02/25/15
last time i called Chase reconsideration the guy told me poi...
Sick stead
  02/25/15
What do you say if you have no business? I know there are w...
Bull headed internal respiration
  02/25/15
I think some cards dont care if u actually have a business. ...
filthy cream nibblets sweet tailpipe
  02/25/15
say you buy and sell collectibles on eBay or do legal work o...
Sick stead
  02/25/15
792
violet embarrassed to the bone institution
  02/25/15
747 and I have never missed a bill and have about $100k in c...
Disrespectful tanning salon
  02/25/15
Yep. Paying a loan and being in good status ups your score.
mint useless brakes rehab
  02/25/15
nm my above question then. lol
Pea-brained electric furnace milk
  02/25/15
Yeah I guess. I don't really care though; got a 3.625 mortg...
Disrespectful tanning salon
  02/25/15
Nice rate.
mint useless brakes rehab
  02/25/15
This. FICO is used to both assess risk and identify profita...
violet embarrassed to the bone institution
  02/25/15
bout 750
Galvanic Hunting Ground
  02/25/15
692
slate ratface reading party
  02/25/15
815. u mad deadbeats?
Ruby quadroon field
  02/25/15
No idea, is there anyway to get this without entering all ki...
submissive travel guidebook
  02/25/15
capital one and discover both give me mine for free. they e...
Ruby quadroon field
  02/25/15
Dont have a cap one or discovery card
submissive travel guidebook
  02/25/15
amex used to to it too but idk i haven't had an amex in a wh...
Ruby quadroon field
  02/25/15
Eh, I'm not really that concerned. I'd have to imagine my sc...
submissive travel guidebook
  02/25/15
creditkarma now gives transunion and equifax for free but u ...
filthy cream nibblets sweet tailpipe
  02/25/15
free if you have a Citi card: http://www.mymoneyblog.com/...
Sick stead
  02/25/15
TYTY 830 Key Factor(s) affecting your FICO® Score ...
submissive travel guidebook
  02/25/15
Mine is 770, but LJL at people in this thread taking pride w...
Bull headed internal respiration
  02/25/15
(guy maf he can't cop 800+)
Ruby quadroon field
  02/25/15
A little bit
Bull headed internal respiration
  02/25/15
811
cracking sexy spot
  02/25/15
Mint says 280. But that lenders view me as low risk. Somet...
cheese-eating glassy immigrant
  02/25/15
Mint says 689. Discover 702.
costumed forum gunner
  02/25/15
818 ftw
Mewling sandwich
  02/26/15
782
salmon overrated wrinkle casino
  02/26/15


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Date: February 25th, 2015 7:19 PM
Author: mint useless brakes rehab

These days you can get your FICO score, free. Just use Mint, Discover, etc.

What is your current score?

Mine is currently 805

Note: This thread is about FICO scores. Not the other flame credit scores.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2817651&forum_id=2#27391253)



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Date: February 25th, 2015 7:19 PM
Author: Pea-brained electric furnace milk

how's you're mortgage?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2817651&forum_id=2#27391258)



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Date: February 25th, 2015 7:21 PM
Author: mint useless brakes rehab

I rent. MFH.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2817651&forum_id=2#27391275)



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Date: February 25th, 2015 8:01 PM
Author: Pea-brained electric furnace milk

then how is you're score so hi

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2817651&forum_id=2#27391600)



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Date: February 25th, 2015 7:19 PM
Author: Scarlet Mood Crackhouse

738. Was 795 before my most recent round of credit card churning.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2817651&forum_id=2#27391261)



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Date: February 25th, 2015 7:21 PM
Author: mint useless brakes rehab

Do you churn and burn for points?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2817651&forum_id=2#27391280)



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Date: February 25th, 2015 7:26 PM
Author: Scarlet Mood Crackhouse

Ofs

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2817651&forum_id=2#27391323)



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Date: February 25th, 2015 7:22 PM
Author: Razzmatazz Library Feces

576

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2817651&forum_id=2#27391287)



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Date: February 25th, 2015 7:45 PM
Author: Razzmatazz Library Feces

i feel like such a bum

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2817651&forum_id=2#27391474)



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Date: February 25th, 2015 7:46 PM
Author: Electric Khaki House

How is this even possible?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2817651&forum_id=2#27391482)



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Date: February 25th, 2015 7:49 PM
Author: Razzmatazz Library Feces

decided to stop paying on a couple of credit cards. was 200 something last year. right now i have 3 bad reports

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2817651&forum_id=2#27391512)



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Date: February 25th, 2015 7:50 PM
Author: Electric Khaki House

deadbeat

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2817651&forum_id=2#27391515)



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Date: February 25th, 2015 7:50 PM
Author: Razzmatazz Library Feces

bootlicker

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2817651&forum_id=2#27391520)



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Date: February 25th, 2015 7:51 PM
Author: Electric Khaki House

tastes good man

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2817651&forum_id=2#27391523)



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Date: February 25th, 2015 7:52 PM
Author: Razzmatazz Library Feces



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2817651&forum_id=2#27391541)



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Date: February 25th, 2015 7:24 PM
Author: Dashing yapping lodge yarmulke



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2817651&forum_id=2#27391304)



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Date: February 25th, 2015 7:26 PM
Author: mint useless brakes rehab

Nice. Mortgage or student loan payments (in good status)? Just paid off an auto loan?

Edit: Why'd you delete, bro?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2817651&forum_id=2#27391320)



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Date: February 25th, 2015 7:26 PM
Author: Dashing yapping lodge yarmulke

student loans

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2817651&forum_id=2#27391326)



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Date: February 25th, 2015 7:27 PM
Author: mint useless brakes rehab

Yea. They up my score as well.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2817651&forum_id=2#27391336)



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Date: February 25th, 2015 7:25 PM
Author: umber arousing office liquid oxygen

670

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2817651&forum_id=2#27391310)



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Date: February 25th, 2015 7:27 PM
Author: Flickering Glittery Senate

799

Fucking 1 nigga shrimp away

Credit Karma is the best for this btw

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2817651&forum_id=2#27391335)



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Date: February 25th, 2015 7:48 PM
Author: Disrespectful tanning salon

This is a conversation about FICO, lel breh. Credit Karma doesn't give you FICO so GTFO.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2817651&forum_id=2#27391501)



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Date: February 25th, 2015 7:51 PM
Author: violet embarrassed to the bone institution



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2817651&forum_id=2#27391525)



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Date: February 25th, 2015 7:33 PM
Author: bat-shit-crazy locale

735 last time I checked. Fucking parents told me to never get a CC and I believed them until senior year of college. If I had a longer credit history I'd easily be in the 800+ club.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2817651&forum_id=2#27391385)



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Date: February 25th, 2015 7:37 PM
Author: mind-boggling base clown

814. Was sub-700 up until about 3 years ago.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2817651&forum_id=2#27391426)



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Date: February 25th, 2015 7:40 PM
Author: Histrionic Address Pisswyrm

785 (and for bro's with discover cards, you can look it up for free at their website). Would be higher, but I'm playing the "carry a 0% balance until the last minute, then pay it off" game. Also, I rent and bought my car in cash, so I don't have any installment loans on my credit report, putting me in the weird position that the best way to improve my credit score would be to go into debt. At this range, though, improving credit score is mostly flame; I'm already going to qualify for pretty much everything.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2817651&forum_id=2#27391448)



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Date: February 25th, 2015 7:52 PM
Author: Excitant fishy roast beef voyeur

Doing this with three cards at the moment. 795.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2817651&forum_id=2#27391540)



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Date: February 25th, 2015 7:45 PM
Author: Electric Khaki House

835 niggas

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2817651&forum_id=2#27391471)



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Date: February 25th, 2015 7:46 PM
Author: talented newt

849

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2817651&forum_id=2#27391478)



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Date: February 25th, 2015 7:46 PM
Author: filthy cream nibblets sweet tailpipe

812 Transunion.. you MAD whitey?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2817651&forum_id=2#27391483)



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Date: February 25th, 2015 7:47 PM
Author: Sick stead

maybe someone can explain this. according to CreditKarma, my scores are:

TransUnion: 704

Equifax: 687

according to Barclaycard, my score is 761.

according to Mint, it's 726.

according to Discover, it's 762.

so wtf?

it used to be in the 780's, but it's hovered around 740 to 760 since i've been aggressively churning credit cards. i bought and financed a car at the end of January so that's the most recent hit - their finance department submitted to a ton of lenders and it resulted in a dozen different hard pulls. still kinda pissed about that.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2817651&forum_id=2#27391485)



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Date: February 25th, 2015 7:48 PM
Author: filthy cream nibblets sweet tailpipe

its all fraud and lies, there are at least three major diff companies making scores

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2817651&forum_id=2#27391499)



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Date: February 25th, 2015 7:51 PM
Author: Histrionic Address Pisswyrm

Discover is giving you the real FICO score that most lenders actually use. The other scores are flame that nobody cares about. 762 is high enough that you're doing great and are unlikely to be turned down for anything.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2817651&forum_id=2#27391528)



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Date: February 25th, 2015 7:56 PM
Author: Sick stead

ty

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2817651&forum_id=2#27391566)



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Date: February 25th, 2015 8:00 PM
Author: mint useless brakes rehab

Mint actually gives FICO as well.

But yea, many give the flame score that some of the credit agencies made up. It goes from like 500 - 1000, so peeps get it confused with the real FICO score and think they have a good score when it is actually shit.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2817651&forum_id=2#27391596)



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Date: February 25th, 2015 8:08 PM
Author: snowy bipolar regret

Same here. CK says 740s, Mint says 799.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2817651&forum_id=2#27391651)



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Date: February 25th, 2015 7:47 PM
Author: Sick stead

those of you in the 800's need to get on dat credit card sign up bonus game

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2817651&forum_id=2#27391494)



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Date: February 25th, 2015 7:51 PM
Author: filthy cream nibblets sweet tailpipe

at some point u can sign up for almost everything and cant get bonus again..

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2817651&forum_id=2#27391524)



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Date: February 25th, 2015 7:54 PM
Author: Sick stead

yeah, at some point. some cards you can churn over and over. mostly business cards now.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2817651&forum_id=2#27391556)



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Date: February 25th, 2015 7:59 PM
Author: filthy cream nibblets sweet tailpipe

i feel like i have raped chase in the ass so many times that now they suspect me when i apply but yeah business cards help

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2817651&forum_id=2#27391588)



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Date: February 25th, 2015 8:07 PM
Author: Sick stead

last time i called Chase reconsideration the guy told me point blank when i pushed him "it has nothing to do with your credit. i'm not giving you another card. wait a few months and apply again." this was for the Chase Ink Plus 70K offer a few months ago. tbf at the time i had 6 open accounts with them and had cancelled 2 others within the last six months.

last Amex card i applied for my denial letter i got in the mail had only one reason in the list of reasons they denied, it was "You have too many existing open accounts with American Express." i'm just about out of Amex cards i can get anyway. last one i'm waiting on is a 100k targeted offer for biz platinum.

i have 45K nearly useless Virgin Atlantic miles because i got the BoA card from them because i'm running out of banks. didn't realize how shitty they were until after i got the card. they make Delta miles look like gold.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2817651&forum_id=2#27391632)



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Date: February 25th, 2015 8:59 PM
Author: Bull headed internal respiration

What do you say if you have no business? I know there are ways, but I never pulled the trigger?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2817651&forum_id=2#27392064)



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Date: February 25th, 2015 9:03 PM
Author: filthy cream nibblets sweet tailpipe

I think some cards dont care if u actually have a business. U can just make up a name. It still gets listed under ur SS so dont think they care though my business cards are a bit different in that I can get multiple cards for diff employees but it only counts as one account

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2817651&forum_id=2#27392089)



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Date: February 25th, 2015 9:28 PM
Author: Sick stead

say you buy and sell collectibles on eBay or do legal work on the side or something. enter your social security number for the tax id for the business. it's mostly based on your personal credit.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2817651&forum_id=2#27392219)



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Date: February 25th, 2015 7:52 PM
Author: violet embarrassed to the bone institution

792

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2817651&forum_id=2#27391538)



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Date: February 25th, 2015 7:59 PM
Author: Disrespectful tanning salon

747 and I have never missed a bill and have about $100k in credit. Just bought a house and got a new CC though so expect that it will rebound shortly. Ironically I think it is artificially low because I had no college or law school loans.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2817651&forum_id=2#27391591)



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Date: February 25th, 2015 8:01 PM
Author: mint useless brakes rehab

Yep. Paying a loan and being in good status ups your score.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2817651&forum_id=2#27391599)



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Date: February 25th, 2015 8:01 PM
Author: Pea-brained electric furnace milk

nm my above question then. lol

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2817651&forum_id=2#27391601)



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Date: February 25th, 2015 8:02 PM
Author: Disrespectful tanning salon

Yeah I guess. I don't really care though; got a 3.625 mortgage locked in and plenty of assets. Joke's on them.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2817651&forum_id=2#27391608)



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Date: February 25th, 2015 8:03 PM
Author: mint useless brakes rehab

Nice rate.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2817651&forum_id=2#27391609)



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Date: February 25th, 2015 8:11 PM
Author: violet embarrassed to the bone institution

This. FICO is used to both assess risk and identify profitable customers.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2817651&forum_id=2#27391674)



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Date: February 25th, 2015 8:04 PM
Author: Galvanic Hunting Ground

bout 750

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2817651&forum_id=2#27391611)



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Date: February 25th, 2015 8:52 PM
Author: slate ratface reading party

692

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2817651&forum_id=2#27392004)



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Date: February 25th, 2015 8:57 PM
Author: Ruby quadroon field

815. u mad deadbeats?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2817651&forum_id=2#27392048)



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Date: February 25th, 2015 8:57 PM
Author: submissive travel guidebook

No idea, is there anyway to get this without entering all kinds of personal info on one of these sites?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2817651&forum_id=2#27392050)



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Date: February 25th, 2015 9:02 PM
Author: Ruby quadroon field

capital one and discover both give me mine for free. they even send me a reminder each month to log in and check it. try one of those if you have it.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2817651&forum_id=2#27392082)



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Date: February 25th, 2015 9:04 PM
Author: submissive travel guidebook

Dont have a cap one or discovery card

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2817651&forum_id=2#27392097)



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Date: February 25th, 2015 9:06 PM
Author: Ruby quadroon field

amex used to to it too but idk i haven't had an amex in a while

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2817651&forum_id=2#27392107)



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Date: February 25th, 2015 9:24 PM
Author: submissive travel guidebook

Eh, I'm not really that concerned. I'd have to imagine my score is pretty high.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2817651&forum_id=2#27392197)



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Date: February 25th, 2015 9:08 PM
Author: filthy cream nibblets sweet tailpipe

creditkarma now gives transunion and equifax for free but u have to input some info

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2817651&forum_id=2#27392119)



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Date: February 25th, 2015 9:25 PM
Author: Sick stead

free if you have a Citi card:

http://www.mymoneyblog.com/citi-free-fico-score.html

Barclaycard gives it to you free too:

http://thepointsguy.com/2013/11/barclaycard-cardmembers-get-free-fico-scores-starting-today/

i know you have a US Air card and a Citi AA Exec or Plat, so log in to either of those.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2817651&forum_id=2#27392206)



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Date: February 25th, 2015 9:37 PM
Author: submissive travel guidebook

TYTY

830

Key Factor(s) affecting your FICO® Score

1. Too many inquiries last 12 months

2. Time since most recent account opening is too short

<><><>MILESGAME<><><>

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2817651&forum_id=2#27392286)



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Date: February 25th, 2015 9:01 PM
Author: Bull headed internal respiration

Mine is 770, but LJL at people in this thread taking pride when anything above 740 is totally irrelevant

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2817651&forum_id=2#27392077)



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Date: February 25th, 2015 9:03 PM
Author: Ruby quadroon field

(guy maf he can't cop 800+)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2817651&forum_id=2#27392088)



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Date: February 25th, 2015 9:05 PM
Author: Bull headed internal respiration

A little bit

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2817651&forum_id=2#27392103)



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Date: February 25th, 2015 9:05 PM
Author: cracking sexy spot

811

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2817651&forum_id=2#27392106)



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Date: February 25th, 2015 9:07 PM
Author: cheese-eating glassy immigrant

Mint says 280. But that lenders view me as low risk. Something is flame. Anyways, I know it's about 800 from an actual report a few months ago.

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Date: February 25th, 2015 10:48 PM
Author: costumed forum gunner

Mint says 689. Discover 702.

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Date: February 26th, 2015 11:37 AM
Author: Mewling sandwich

818 ftw

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Date: February 26th, 2015 11:39 AM
Author: salmon overrated wrinkle casino

782

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