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Am I a damn fool if I take a clerkship as a 5th year?
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Date: February 27th, 2015 12:17 AM Author: Topaz Adventurous Dingle Berry It's in a rad city and I'm in a rut at work. I'm a lit associate so I think reading briefs and writing orders will be easy (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2818563&forum_id=2#27398549) |
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Date: February 27th, 2015 12:18 AM Author: hilarious flatulent range patrolman you can get a clerkship as a 5th year? i thought they were only available to 3L's. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2818563&forum_id=2#27398550) |
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Date: February 27th, 2015 12:35 AM Author: Topaz Adventurous Dingle Berry Lots of judges won't even take first years any more. I don't think any SDNY judge does. Lots of NDCA and CDCA judges require prior experience. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2818563&forum_id=2#27398634) |
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Date: February 27th, 2015 12:41 AM Author: hilarious flatulent range patrolman how do you get one? just apply? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2818563&forum_id=2#27398657) |
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Date: February 27th, 2015 12:42 AM Author: Topaz Adventurous Dingle Berry The SDNY website has every judge's hiring guidelines. I think some are on oscar but specifically say they're not looking for first years. But yes, you just apply. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2818563&forum_id=2#27398668) |
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Date: February 27th, 2015 12:20 AM Author: Glittery Useless Step-uncle's House Cumskin I'm taking one as a 4th and may take a CoA as a 5th. You're going to get a lot of conflicting reports here. If you can go back to the firm with bonus, it's likely a cant lose. If not, who knows? Going to be dependent on goals, clerkship, etc.
I'm hoping you're not. I never really thought about not doing it though, shit seems to work out. Also, fuck biglaw usually. |
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Date: February 27th, 2015 12:34 AM Author: Topaz Adventurous Dingle Berry Probably can't get back in. It's a v30-50 firm but they don't really appreciate clerkships. I'd also be fucking them pretty bad--they just stealthed some dudes so I'm fucking slammed, and we have a bunch of briefing deadlines coming up.
I did a circuit clerkship as a first year. This is basically a year of chilling in one of the most 180 cities on earth |
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Date: February 27th, 2015 12:38 AM Author: Underhanded Gunner what's one of the most 180 cites on earth that's still in this country? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2818563&forum_id=2#27398646) |
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Date: February 27th, 2015 12:40 AM Author: Topaz Adventurous Dingle Berry Name the 10 most 180 cities in the US. From that list, tell me which you would consider to be among the most 180 on earth. I will tell you if the relevant city is on your list of 10, and maybe the second list if I don't think it outs me. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2818563&forum_id=2#27398653) |
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Date: February 27th, 2015 12:56 AM Author: Glittery Useless Step-uncle's House Cumskin To be this jacked about a city I assume it can't be something standard like NY/Chi/LA.
NOLA, Nashville, Vegas, San Fran, Hawaii, Virginia islands, fuck I don't know |
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Date: February 27th, 2015 1:05 AM Author: Topaz Adventurous Dingle Berry It's none of them. Wild. Maybe the city that I think is heaven isn't the city everyone else thinks is heaven. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2818563&forum_id=2#27398730) |
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Date: February 27th, 2015 1:17 AM Author: razzmatazz cyan whorehouse regret Austin? Tahoe? Miami? San Juan? Seattle? Portland? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2818563&forum_id=2#27398765) |
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Date: February 27th, 2015 1:20 AM Author: Topaz Adventurous Dingle Berry No. Is there a federal court in Tahoe? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2818563&forum_id=2#27398787) |
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Date: February 27th, 2015 9:06 AM Author: Bateful drunken market ceo If there was, I'd be working there. There is one in reno though which is very close to Tahoe. Maybe 45 minutes away. Sacramento too, that's about an hour 1/2 away. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2818563&forum_id=2#27399495) |
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Date: February 27th, 2015 9:05 AM Author: Bateful drunken market ceo San Diego? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2818563&forum_id=2#27399488) |
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Date: February 27th, 2015 10:25 PM Author: vibrant church building Denver (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2818563&forum_id=2#27403586) |
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Date: February 27th, 2015 11:17 PM Author: Topaz Adventurous Dingle Berry You gotta do 10 so I can remain anonymous (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2818563&forum_id=2#27403806) |
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Date: February 28th, 2015 11:41 PM Author: Passionate juggernaut how was Madison (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2818563&forum_id=2#27409448) |
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Date: February 27th, 2015 12:58 AM Author: Glittery Useless Step-uncle's House Cumskin Yea - that's a different scenario than me. But I am at a somewhat similarly ranked firm that also doesn't really value clerks. Have to think some big fed or DOJ is out there. If not, maybe another biglaw firm and come in with some retarded seniority or a mid law/boutique that is all about clerks. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2818563&forum_id=2#27398721) |
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Date: February 27th, 2015 1:00 AM Author: lascivious ticket booth How was Austin?
Re: your OP, tcr is to clerk in a district where you want to go AUSA or local boutique/midlaw where your new judge has connections. |
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Date: February 27th, 2015 1:07 AM Author: Topaz Adventurous Dingle Berry That would be pretty bad ass. I think the judge has connections. It's a matter of whether those connections will pay off for me in the long run. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2818563&forum_id=2#27398737) |
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Date: February 27th, 2015 10:09 PM Author: Aphrodisiac fat ankles theatre Why'd they get stealthed? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2818563&forum_id=2#27403496) |
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Date: February 27th, 2015 11:19 PM Author: Topaz Adventurous Dingle Berry I hear their work was shit and they had tons of warnings. They were in my group, but my level, so they never really worked for me and I've never seen their work. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2818563&forum_id=2#27403816) |
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Date: February 27th, 2015 12:48 AM Author: supple embarrassed to the bone goyim station Why'd you do it? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2818563&forum_id=2#27398694) |
Date: February 27th, 2015 12:18 AM Author: azure garrison trump supporter LSAT and rank of law school? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2818563&forum_id=2#27398551) |
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Date: February 27th, 2015 12:37 AM Author: Topaz Adventurous Dingle Berry xo TTT for both. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2818563&forum_id=2#27398639) |
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Date: February 27th, 2015 1:05 AM Author: gold roommate sex offender You'd be a damn fool if you didn't take it (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2818563&forum_id=2#27398731) |
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Date: February 27th, 2015 1:07 AM Author: Topaz Adventurous Dingle Berry Show your work. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2818563&forum_id=2#27398738) |
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Date: February 27th, 2015 1:08 AM Author: gold roommate sex offender Clerkships are 180. You'll actually feel like your work has meaning and you are contributing to the betterment of society in a non-flame way. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2818563&forum_id=2#27398742) |
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Date: February 27th, 2015 1:09 AM Author: Topaz Adventurous Dingle Berry I agree that the significant pay cut would be worth it for the term of the clerkship. Just worried that I'll be sleeping in my car afterwards. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2818563&forum_id=2#27398746) |
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Date: February 27th, 2015 1:10 AM Author: gold roommate sex offender if you have big firm experience and you get a decent clerkship then I don't think it'd be an issue to fit in somewhere after. Might not be biglaw but you'll be alright. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2818563&forum_id=2#27398747) |
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Date: February 27th, 2015 1:14 PM Author: saffron menage prole (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2818563&forum_id=2#27400538) |
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Date: February 27th, 2015 2:45 AM Author: citrine dog poop When I did this, my life went from 125 to 175 overnight. The only challenge is figuring out what to do afterward. Regardless, a year is a significant chunk of life and you should take rhe job (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2818563&forum_id=2#27399027) |
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Date: February 27th, 2015 9:00 AM Author: Glittery Useless Step-uncle's House Cumskin Obvious question - what did you find (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2818563&forum_id=2#27399472) |
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Date: February 28th, 2015 9:38 AM Author: Alcoholic floppy death wish business firm Did u go big fed after? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2818563&forum_id=2#27405190) |
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Date: March 1st, 2015 1:52 AM Author: citrine dog poop Still in the cship year, spending lots of time big fed networking. Can go back to my firm if it doesn't work out. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2818563&forum_id=2#27410106) |
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Date: February 27th, 2015 9:08 AM Author: sable locus Fifth year is where you have to decide what you want to do with your career. So if you decide you want to pivot it is the right decision. Think about where you really want to be in 10 years. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2818563&forum_id=2#27399501) |
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Date: February 27th, 2015 11:27 AM Author: Vengeful drab giraffe house This is right. If your goal is to return to your current firm and continue on a path to partnership, doing a clerkship is not a great idea. But if you're looking to transition to a much smaller firm, or to government, or academia, it can be a very good idea. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2818563&forum_id=2#27399938) |
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Date: February 27th, 2015 11:24 AM Author: Judgmental Lay Foreskin (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2818563&forum_id=2#27399929) |
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Date: February 27th, 2015 11:28 AM Author: Hyperventilating Principal's Office no it's 180. then upgrade to a better firm (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2818563&forum_id=2#27399941) |
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Date: February 27th, 2015 11:56 AM Author: Judgmental Lay Foreskin I mean unless he doesn't get another job (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2818563&forum_id=2#27400077) |
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Date: February 27th, 2015 1:44 PM Author: Judgmental Lay Foreskin (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2818563&forum_id=2#27400769) |
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Date: February 27th, 2015 3:06 PM Author: Talking hall mental disorder (five alive!) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2818563&forum_id=2#27401394) |
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Date: February 27th, 2015 10:10 PM Author: duck-like state loved that girl. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2818563&forum_id=2#27403500) |
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Date: February 27th, 2015 10:11 PM Author: concupiscible lake yarmulke circlehead Do it, only way to actually learn lit (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2818563&forum_id=2#27403504) |
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Date: February 27th, 2015 10:28 PM Author: sable locus Weird advice from you (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2818563&forum_id=2#27403597) |
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Date: February 27th, 2015 10:32 PM Author: concupiscible lake yarmulke circlehead ? ive never berated federal clerkships, just BIGLAW... clerkships are pretty 180 ways to learn the law... LS shld teach that shit (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2818563&forum_id=2#27403609) |
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Date: February 28th, 2015 11:39 PM Author: Topaz Adventurous Dingle Berry Shits killing me. I have no doubt that the next year will be better if I take the clerkship. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2818563&forum_id=2#27409432) |
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Date: March 1st, 2015 5:17 PM Author: Blue self-absorbed meetinghouse becky Unless you're dead set on making partner at your current firm and have a viable path, do it. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2818563&forum_id=2#27412672) |
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Date: March 2nd, 2015 9:33 AM Author: Topaz Adventurous Dingle Berry It's probably too early to make partnership projections. That said, lots of people ahead of my quit or got fired, so my confidants tell me this should clear the way for me and help me out with partnership (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2818563&forum_id=2#27415650) |