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Am I a damn fool if I take a clerkship as a 5th year?

It's in a rad city and I'm in a rut at work. I'm a lit assoc...
Frisky Parlor
  02/27/15
you can get a clerkship as a 5th year? i thought they were o...
insecure theatre
  02/27/15
Lots of judges won't even take first years any more. I don'...
Frisky Parlor
  02/27/15
how do you get one? just apply?
insecure theatre
  02/27/15
The SDNY website has every judge's hiring guidelines. I thi...
Frisky Parlor
  02/27/15
I'm taking one as a 4th and may take a CoA as a 5th. You're ...
Sapphire macaca
  02/27/15
Probably can't get back in. It's a v30-50 firm but they don'...
Frisky Parlor
  02/27/15
what's one of the most 180 cites on earth that's still in th...
Turquoise party of the first part parlour
  02/27/15
Name the 10 most 180 cities in the US. From that list, tell...
Frisky Parlor
  02/27/15
To be this jacked about a city I assume it can't be somethin...
Sapphire macaca
  02/27/15
It's none of them. Wild. Maybe the city that I think is he...
Frisky Parlor
  02/27/15
Austin? Tahoe? Miami? San Juan? Seattle? Portland?
Excitant cordovan ceo school
  02/27/15
No. Is there a federal court in Tahoe?
Frisky Parlor
  02/27/15
If there was, I'd be working there. There is one in reno tho...
razzle prole ticket booth
  02/27/15
San Diego?
razzle prole ticket booth
  02/27/15
Denver
Iridescent Whorehouse
  02/27/15
You gotta do 10 so I can remain anonymous
Frisky Parlor
  02/27/15
how was Madison
Lime orchestra pit pisswyrm
  02/28/15
Yea - that's a different scenario than me. But I am at a som...
Sapphire macaca
  02/27/15
How was Austin? Re: your OP, tcr is to clerk in a distric...
blue very tactful meetinghouse community account
  02/27/15
That would be pretty bad ass. I think the judge has connect...
Frisky Parlor
  02/27/15
Why'd they get stealthed?
Appetizing rusted keepsake machete native
  02/27/15
I hear their work was shit and they had tons of warnings. Th...
Frisky Parlor
  02/27/15
Why'd you do it?
Hot station stain
  02/27/15
LSAT and rank of law school?
Red Puppy
  02/27/15
xo TTT for both.
Frisky Parlor
  02/27/15
You'd be a damn fool if you didn't take it
Vigorous garrison
  02/27/15
Show your work.
Frisky Parlor
  02/27/15
Clerkships are 180. You'll actually feel like your work has ...
Vigorous garrison
  02/27/15
I agree that the significant pay cut would be worth it for t...
Frisky Parlor
  02/27/15
if you have big firm experience and you get a decent clerksh...
Vigorous garrison
  02/27/15
...
big selfie point
  02/27/15
When I did this, my life went from 125 to 175 overnight. Th...
overrated haunted graveyard shitlib
  02/27/15
Obvious question - what did you find
Sapphire macaca
  02/27/15
Did u go big fed after?
stirring trust fund
  02/28/15
Still in the cship year, spending lots of time big fed netwo...
overrated haunted graveyard shitlib
  03/01/15
Fifth year is where you have to decide what you want to do w...
Underhanded incel
  02/27/15
This is right. If your goal is to return to your current fi...
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  02/27/15
...
Provocative hospital
  02/27/15
no it's 180. then upgrade to a better firm
Sable lascivious stag film dog poop
  02/27/15
I mean unless he doesn't get another job
Provocative hospital
  02/27/15
...
Provocative hospital
  02/27/15
(five alive!)
aggressive shimmering laser beams public bath
  02/27/15
loved that girl.
confused crawly cruise ship idea he suggested
  02/27/15
Do it, only way to actually learn lit
Federal shrine background story
  02/27/15
Weird advice from you
Underhanded incel
  02/27/15
? ive never berated federal clerkships, just BIGLAW... clerk...
Federal shrine background story
  02/27/15
Shits killing me. I have no doubt that the next year will be...
Frisky Parlor
  02/28/15
Unless you're dead set on making partner at your current fir...
Pontificating Yarmulke Antidepressant Drug
  03/01/15
It's probably too early to make partnership projections. Tha...
Frisky Parlor
  03/02/15


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Date: February 27th, 2015 12:17 AM
Author: Frisky Parlor

It's in a rad city and I'm in a rut at work. I'm a lit associate so I think reading briefs and writing orders will be easy

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2818563&forum_id=2#27398549)



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Date: February 27th, 2015 12:18 AM
Author: insecure theatre

you can get a clerkship as a 5th year? i thought they were only available to 3L's.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2818563&forum_id=2#27398550)



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Date: February 27th, 2015 12:35 AM
Author: Frisky Parlor

Lots of judges won't even take first years any more. I don't think any SDNY judge does. Lots of NDCA and CDCA judges require prior experience.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2818563&forum_id=2#27398634)



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Date: February 27th, 2015 12:41 AM
Author: insecure theatre

how do you get one? just apply?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2818563&forum_id=2#27398657)



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Date: February 27th, 2015 12:42 AM
Author: Frisky Parlor

The SDNY website has every judge's hiring guidelines. I think some are on oscar but specifically say they're not looking for first years. But yes, you just apply.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2818563&forum_id=2#27398668)



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Date: February 27th, 2015 12:20 AM
Author: Sapphire macaca

I'm taking one as a 4th and may take a CoA as a 5th. You're going to get a lot of conflicting reports here. If you can go back to the firm with bonus, it's likely a cant lose. If not, who knows? Going to be dependent on goals, clerkship, etc.

I'm hoping you're not. I never really thought about not doing it though, shit seems to work out. Also, fuck biglaw usually.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2818563&forum_id=2#27398558)



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Date: February 27th, 2015 12:34 AM
Author: Frisky Parlor

Probably can't get back in. It's a v30-50 firm but they don't really appreciate clerkships. I'd also be fucking them pretty bad--they just stealthed some dudes so I'm fucking slammed, and we have a bunch of briefing deadlines coming up.

I did a circuit clerkship as a first year. This is basically a year of chilling in one of the most 180 cities on earth

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2818563&forum_id=2#27398624)



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Date: February 27th, 2015 12:38 AM
Author: Turquoise party of the first part parlour

what's one of the most 180 cites on earth that's still in this country?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2818563&forum_id=2#27398646)



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Date: February 27th, 2015 12:40 AM
Author: Frisky Parlor

Name the 10 most 180 cities in the US. From that list, tell me which you would consider to be among the most 180 on earth. I will tell you if the relevant city is on your list of 10, and maybe the second list if I don't think it outs me.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2818563&forum_id=2#27398653)



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Date: February 27th, 2015 12:56 AM
Author: Sapphire macaca

To be this jacked about a city I assume it can't be something standard like NY/Chi/LA.

NOLA, Nashville, Vegas, San Fran, Hawaii, Virginia islands, fuck I don't know

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2818563&forum_id=2#27398720)



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Date: February 27th, 2015 1:05 AM
Author: Frisky Parlor

It's none of them. Wild. Maybe the city that I think is heaven isn't the city everyone else thinks is heaven.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2818563&forum_id=2#27398730)



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Date: February 27th, 2015 1:17 AM
Author: Excitant cordovan ceo school

Austin? Tahoe? Miami? San Juan? Seattle? Portland?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2818563&forum_id=2#27398765)



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Date: February 27th, 2015 1:20 AM
Author: Frisky Parlor

No. Is there a federal court in Tahoe?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2818563&forum_id=2#27398787)



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Date: February 27th, 2015 9:06 AM
Author: razzle prole ticket booth

If there was, I'd be working there. There is one in reno though which is very close to Tahoe. Maybe 45 minutes away. Sacramento too, that's about an hour 1/2 away.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2818563&forum_id=2#27399495)



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Date: February 27th, 2015 9:05 AM
Author: razzle prole ticket booth

San Diego?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2818563&forum_id=2#27399488)



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Date: February 27th, 2015 10:25 PM
Author: Iridescent Whorehouse

Denver

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2818563&forum_id=2#27403586)



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Date: February 27th, 2015 11:17 PM
Author: Frisky Parlor

You gotta do 10 so I can remain anonymous

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2818563&forum_id=2#27403806)



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Date: February 28th, 2015 11:41 PM
Author: Lime orchestra pit pisswyrm

how was Madison

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2818563&forum_id=2#27409448)



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Date: February 27th, 2015 12:58 AM
Author: Sapphire macaca

Yea - that's a different scenario than me. But I am at a somewhat similarly ranked firm that also doesn't really value clerks. Have to think some big fed or DOJ is out there. If not, maybe another biglaw firm and come in with some retarded seniority or a mid law/boutique that is all about clerks.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2818563&forum_id=2#27398721)



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Date: February 27th, 2015 1:00 AM
Author: blue very tactful meetinghouse community account

How was Austin?

Re: your OP, tcr is to clerk in a district where you want to go AUSA or local boutique/midlaw where your new judge has connections.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2818563&forum_id=2#27398724)



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Date: February 27th, 2015 1:07 AM
Author: Frisky Parlor

That would be pretty bad ass. I think the judge has connections. It's a matter of whether those connections will pay off for me in the long run.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2818563&forum_id=2#27398737)



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Date: February 27th, 2015 10:09 PM
Author: Appetizing rusted keepsake machete native

Why'd they get stealthed?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2818563&forum_id=2#27403496)



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Date: February 27th, 2015 11:19 PM
Author: Frisky Parlor

I hear their work was shit and they had tons of warnings. They were in my group, but my level, so they never really worked for me and I've never seen their work.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2818563&forum_id=2#27403816)



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Date: February 27th, 2015 12:48 AM
Author: Hot station stain

Why'd you do it?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2818563&forum_id=2#27398694)



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Date: February 27th, 2015 12:18 AM
Author: Red Puppy

LSAT and rank of law school?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2818563&forum_id=2#27398551)



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Date: February 27th, 2015 12:37 AM
Author: Frisky Parlor

xo TTT for both.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2818563&forum_id=2#27398639)



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Date: February 27th, 2015 1:05 AM
Author: Vigorous garrison

You'd be a damn fool if you didn't take it

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2818563&forum_id=2#27398731)



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Date: February 27th, 2015 1:07 AM
Author: Frisky Parlor

Show your work.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2818563&forum_id=2#27398738)



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Date: February 27th, 2015 1:08 AM
Author: Vigorous garrison

Clerkships are 180. You'll actually feel like your work has meaning and you are contributing to the betterment of society in a non-flame way.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2818563&forum_id=2#27398742)



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Date: February 27th, 2015 1:09 AM
Author: Frisky Parlor

I agree that the significant pay cut would be worth it for the term of the clerkship. Just worried that I'll be sleeping in my car afterwards.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2818563&forum_id=2#27398746)



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Date: February 27th, 2015 1:10 AM
Author: Vigorous garrison

if you have big firm experience and you get a decent clerkship then I don't think it'd be an issue to fit in somewhere after. Might not be biglaw but you'll be alright.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2818563&forum_id=2#27398747)



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Date: February 27th, 2015 1:14 PM
Author: big selfie point



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2818563&forum_id=2#27400538)



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Date: February 27th, 2015 2:45 AM
Author: overrated haunted graveyard shitlib

When I did this, my life went from 125 to 175 overnight. The only challenge is figuring out what to do afterward. Regardless, a year is a significant chunk of life and you should take rhe job

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2818563&forum_id=2#27399027)



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Date: February 27th, 2015 9:00 AM
Author: Sapphire macaca

Obvious question - what did you find

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2818563&forum_id=2#27399472)



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Date: February 28th, 2015 9:38 AM
Author: stirring trust fund

Did u go big fed after?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2818563&forum_id=2#27405190)



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Date: March 1st, 2015 1:52 AM
Author: overrated haunted graveyard shitlib

Still in the cship year, spending lots of time big fed networking. Can go back to my firm if it doesn't work out.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2818563&forum_id=2#27410106)



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Date: February 27th, 2015 9:08 AM
Author: Underhanded incel

Fifth year is where you have to decide what you want to do with your career. So if you decide you want to pivot it is the right decision. Think about where you really want to be in 10 years.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2818563&forum_id=2#27399501)



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Date: February 27th, 2015 11:27 AM
Author: gay giraffe crackhouse

This is right. If your goal is to return to your current firm and continue on a path to partnership, doing a clerkship is not a great idea. But if you're looking to transition to a much smaller firm, or to government, or academia, it can be a very good idea.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2818563&forum_id=2#27399938)



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Date: February 27th, 2015 11:24 AM
Author: Provocative hospital



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2818563&forum_id=2#27399929)



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Date: February 27th, 2015 11:28 AM
Author: Sable lascivious stag film dog poop

no it's 180. then upgrade to a better firm

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2818563&forum_id=2#27399941)



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Date: February 27th, 2015 11:56 AM
Author: Provocative hospital

I mean unless he doesn't get another job

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2818563&forum_id=2#27400077)



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Date: February 27th, 2015 1:44 PM
Author: Provocative hospital



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2818563&forum_id=2#27400769)



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Date: February 27th, 2015 3:06 PM
Author: aggressive shimmering laser beams public bath

(five alive!)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2818563&forum_id=2#27401394)



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Date: February 27th, 2015 10:10 PM
Author: confused crawly cruise ship idea he suggested

loved that girl.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2818563&forum_id=2#27403500)



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Date: February 27th, 2015 10:11 PM
Author: Federal shrine background story

Do it, only way to actually learn lit

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2818563&forum_id=2#27403504)



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Date: February 27th, 2015 10:28 PM
Author: Underhanded incel

Weird advice from you

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2818563&forum_id=2#27403597)



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Date: February 27th, 2015 10:32 PM
Author: Federal shrine background story

? ive never berated federal clerkships, just BIGLAW... clerkships are pretty 180 ways to learn the law... LS shld teach that shit

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2818563&forum_id=2#27403609)



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Date: February 28th, 2015 11:39 PM
Author: Frisky Parlor

Shits killing me. I have no doubt that the next year will be better if I take the clerkship.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2818563&forum_id=2#27409432)



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Date: March 1st, 2015 5:17 PM
Author: Pontificating Yarmulke Antidepressant Drug

Unless you're dead set on making partner at your current firm and have a viable path, do it.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2818563&forum_id=2#27412672)



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Date: March 2nd, 2015 9:33 AM
Author: Frisky Parlor

It's probably too early to make partnership projections. That said, lots of people ahead of my quit or got fired, so my confidants tell me this should clear the way for me and help me out with partnership

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2818563&forum_id=2#27415650)