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Am I a damn fool if I take a clerkship as a 5th year?

It's in a rad city and I'm in a rut at work. I'm a lit assoc...
ruby bat-shit-crazy deer antler kitchen
  02/27/15
you can get a clerkship as a 5th year? i thought they were o...
cruel-hearted charismatic shrine
  02/27/15
Lots of judges won't even take first years any more. I don'...
ruby bat-shit-crazy deer antler kitchen
  02/27/15
how do you get one? just apply?
cruel-hearted charismatic shrine
  02/27/15
The SDNY website has every judge's hiring guidelines. I thi...
ruby bat-shit-crazy deer antler kitchen
  02/27/15
I'm taking one as a 4th and may take a CoA as a 5th. You're ...
iridescent cuck lay
  02/27/15
Probably can't get back in. It's a v30-50 firm but they don'...
ruby bat-shit-crazy deer antler kitchen
  02/27/15
what's one of the most 180 cites on earth that's still in th...
Soggy boiling water legal warrant
  02/27/15
Name the 10 most 180 cities in the US. From that list, tell...
ruby bat-shit-crazy deer antler kitchen
  02/27/15
To be this jacked about a city I assume it can't be somethin...
iridescent cuck lay
  02/27/15
It's none of them. Wild. Maybe the city that I think is he...
ruby bat-shit-crazy deer antler kitchen
  02/27/15
Austin? Tahoe? Miami? San Juan? Seattle? Portland?
flatulent double fault
  02/27/15
No. Is there a federal court in Tahoe?
ruby bat-shit-crazy deer antler kitchen
  02/27/15
If there was, I'd be working there. There is one in reno tho...
startled marvelous psychic
  02/27/15
San Diego?
startled marvelous psychic
  02/27/15
Denver
trip crackhouse
  02/27/15
You gotta do 10 so I can remain anonymous
ruby bat-shit-crazy deer antler kitchen
  02/27/15
how was Madison
Stimulating institution police squad
  02/28/15
Yea - that's a different scenario than me. But I am at a som...
iridescent cuck lay
  02/27/15
How was Austin? Re: your OP, tcr is to clerk in a distric...
bearded school
  02/27/15
That would be pretty bad ass. I think the judge has connect...
ruby bat-shit-crazy deer antler kitchen
  02/27/15
Why'd they get stealthed?
Cyan Temple Really Tough Guy
  02/27/15
I hear their work was shit and they had tons of warnings. Th...
ruby bat-shit-crazy deer antler kitchen
  02/27/15
Why'd you do it?
domesticated vigorous coffee pot
  02/27/15
LSAT and rank of law school?
Green forum mexican
  02/27/15
xo TTT for both.
ruby bat-shit-crazy deer antler kitchen
  02/27/15
You'd be a damn fool if you didn't take it
Comical plaza
  02/27/15
Show your work.
ruby bat-shit-crazy deer antler kitchen
  02/27/15
Clerkships are 180. You'll actually feel like your work has ...
Comical plaza
  02/27/15
I agree that the significant pay cut would be worth it for t...
ruby bat-shit-crazy deer antler kitchen
  02/27/15
if you have big firm experience and you get a decent clerksh...
Comical plaza
  02/27/15
...
Flirting international law enforcement agency reading party
  02/27/15
When I did this, my life went from 125 to 175 overnight. Th...
Silver thriller milk senate
  02/27/15
Obvious question - what did you find
iridescent cuck lay
  02/27/15
Did u go big fed after?
disturbing exciting stage
  02/28/15
Still in the cship year, spending lots of time big fed netwo...
Silver thriller milk senate
  03/01/15
Fifth year is where you have to decide what you want to do w...
Lake Beta Idea He Suggested
  02/27/15
This is right. If your goal is to return to your current fi...
Swashbuckling House
  02/27/15
...
Galvanic Spruce Regret
  02/27/15
no it's 180. then upgrade to a better firm
Vivacious Azure Telephone
  02/27/15
I mean unless he doesn't get another job
Galvanic Spruce Regret
  02/27/15
...
Galvanic Spruce Regret
  02/27/15
(five alive!)
aggressive crystalline circlehead
  02/27/15
loved that girl.
Flesh hideous university scourge upon the earth
  02/27/15
Do it, only way to actually learn lit
glassy native masturbator
  02/27/15
Weird advice from you
Lake Beta Idea He Suggested
  02/27/15
? ive never berated federal clerkships, just BIGLAW... clerk...
glassy native masturbator
  02/27/15
Shits killing me. I have no doubt that the next year will be...
ruby bat-shit-crazy deer antler kitchen
  02/28/15
Unless you're dead set on making partner at your current fir...
Mildly autistic love of her life whorehouse
  03/01/15
It's probably too early to make partnership projections. Tha...
ruby bat-shit-crazy deer antler kitchen
  03/02/15


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Date: February 27th, 2015 12:17 AM
Author: ruby bat-shit-crazy deer antler kitchen

It's in a rad city and I'm in a rut at work. I'm a lit associate so I think reading briefs and writing orders will be easy

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2818563&forum_id=2#27398549)



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Date: February 27th, 2015 12:18 AM
Author: cruel-hearted charismatic shrine

you can get a clerkship as a 5th year? i thought they were only available to 3L's.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2818563&forum_id=2#27398550)



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Date: February 27th, 2015 12:35 AM
Author: ruby bat-shit-crazy deer antler kitchen

Lots of judges won't even take first years any more. I don't think any SDNY judge does. Lots of NDCA and CDCA judges require prior experience.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2818563&forum_id=2#27398634)



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Date: February 27th, 2015 12:41 AM
Author: cruel-hearted charismatic shrine

how do you get one? just apply?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2818563&forum_id=2#27398657)



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Date: February 27th, 2015 12:42 AM
Author: ruby bat-shit-crazy deer antler kitchen

The SDNY website has every judge's hiring guidelines. I think some are on oscar but specifically say they're not looking for first years. But yes, you just apply.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2818563&forum_id=2#27398668)



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Date: February 27th, 2015 12:20 AM
Author: iridescent cuck lay

I'm taking one as a 4th and may take a CoA as a 5th. You're going to get a lot of conflicting reports here. If you can go back to the firm with bonus, it's likely a cant lose. If not, who knows? Going to be dependent on goals, clerkship, etc.

I'm hoping you're not. I never really thought about not doing it though, shit seems to work out. Also, fuck biglaw usually.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2818563&forum_id=2#27398558)



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Date: February 27th, 2015 12:34 AM
Author: ruby bat-shit-crazy deer antler kitchen

Probably can't get back in. It's a v30-50 firm but they don't really appreciate clerkships. I'd also be fucking them pretty bad--they just stealthed some dudes so I'm fucking slammed, and we have a bunch of briefing deadlines coming up.

I did a circuit clerkship as a first year. This is basically a year of chilling in one of the most 180 cities on earth

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2818563&forum_id=2#27398624)



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Date: February 27th, 2015 12:38 AM
Author: Soggy boiling water legal warrant

what's one of the most 180 cites on earth that's still in this country?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2818563&forum_id=2#27398646)



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Date: February 27th, 2015 12:40 AM
Author: ruby bat-shit-crazy deer antler kitchen

Name the 10 most 180 cities in the US. From that list, tell me which you would consider to be among the most 180 on earth. I will tell you if the relevant city is on your list of 10, and maybe the second list if I don't think it outs me.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2818563&forum_id=2#27398653)



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Date: February 27th, 2015 12:56 AM
Author: iridescent cuck lay

To be this jacked about a city I assume it can't be something standard like NY/Chi/LA.

NOLA, Nashville, Vegas, San Fran, Hawaii, Virginia islands, fuck I don't know

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2818563&forum_id=2#27398720)



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Date: February 27th, 2015 1:05 AM
Author: ruby bat-shit-crazy deer antler kitchen

It's none of them. Wild. Maybe the city that I think is heaven isn't the city everyone else thinks is heaven.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2818563&forum_id=2#27398730)



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Date: February 27th, 2015 1:17 AM
Author: flatulent double fault

Austin? Tahoe? Miami? San Juan? Seattle? Portland?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2818563&forum_id=2#27398765)



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Date: February 27th, 2015 1:20 AM
Author: ruby bat-shit-crazy deer antler kitchen

No. Is there a federal court in Tahoe?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2818563&forum_id=2#27398787)



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Date: February 27th, 2015 9:06 AM
Author: startled marvelous psychic

If there was, I'd be working there. There is one in reno though which is very close to Tahoe. Maybe 45 minutes away. Sacramento too, that's about an hour 1/2 away.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2818563&forum_id=2#27399495)



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Date: February 27th, 2015 9:05 AM
Author: startled marvelous psychic

San Diego?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2818563&forum_id=2#27399488)



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Date: February 27th, 2015 10:25 PM
Author: trip crackhouse

Denver

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2818563&forum_id=2#27403586)



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Date: February 27th, 2015 11:17 PM
Author: ruby bat-shit-crazy deer antler kitchen

You gotta do 10 so I can remain anonymous

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2818563&forum_id=2#27403806)



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Date: February 28th, 2015 11:41 PM
Author: Stimulating institution police squad

how was Madison

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2818563&forum_id=2#27409448)



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Date: February 27th, 2015 12:58 AM
Author: iridescent cuck lay

Yea - that's a different scenario than me. But I am at a somewhat similarly ranked firm that also doesn't really value clerks. Have to think some big fed or DOJ is out there. If not, maybe another biglaw firm and come in with some retarded seniority or a mid law/boutique that is all about clerks.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2818563&forum_id=2#27398721)



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Date: February 27th, 2015 1:00 AM
Author: bearded school

How was Austin?

Re: your OP, tcr is to clerk in a district where you want to go AUSA or local boutique/midlaw where your new judge has connections.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2818563&forum_id=2#27398724)



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Date: February 27th, 2015 1:07 AM
Author: ruby bat-shit-crazy deer antler kitchen

That would be pretty bad ass. I think the judge has connections. It's a matter of whether those connections will pay off for me in the long run.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2818563&forum_id=2#27398737)



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Date: February 27th, 2015 10:09 PM
Author: Cyan Temple Really Tough Guy

Why'd they get stealthed?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2818563&forum_id=2#27403496)



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Date: February 27th, 2015 11:19 PM
Author: ruby bat-shit-crazy deer antler kitchen

I hear their work was shit and they had tons of warnings. They were in my group, but my level, so they never really worked for me and I've never seen their work.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2818563&forum_id=2#27403816)



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Date: February 27th, 2015 12:48 AM
Author: domesticated vigorous coffee pot

Why'd you do it?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2818563&forum_id=2#27398694)



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Date: February 27th, 2015 12:18 AM
Author: Green forum mexican

LSAT and rank of law school?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2818563&forum_id=2#27398551)



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Date: February 27th, 2015 12:37 AM
Author: ruby bat-shit-crazy deer antler kitchen

xo TTT for both.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2818563&forum_id=2#27398639)



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Date: February 27th, 2015 1:05 AM
Author: Comical plaza

You'd be a damn fool if you didn't take it

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2818563&forum_id=2#27398731)



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Date: February 27th, 2015 1:07 AM
Author: ruby bat-shit-crazy deer antler kitchen

Show your work.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2818563&forum_id=2#27398738)



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Date: February 27th, 2015 1:08 AM
Author: Comical plaza

Clerkships are 180. You'll actually feel like your work has meaning and you are contributing to the betterment of society in a non-flame way.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2818563&forum_id=2#27398742)



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Date: February 27th, 2015 1:09 AM
Author: ruby bat-shit-crazy deer antler kitchen

I agree that the significant pay cut would be worth it for the term of the clerkship. Just worried that I'll be sleeping in my car afterwards.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2818563&forum_id=2#27398746)



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Date: February 27th, 2015 1:10 AM
Author: Comical plaza

if you have big firm experience and you get a decent clerkship then I don't think it'd be an issue to fit in somewhere after. Might not be biglaw but you'll be alright.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2818563&forum_id=2#27398747)



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Date: February 27th, 2015 1:14 PM
Author: Flirting international law enforcement agency reading party



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2818563&forum_id=2#27400538)



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Date: February 27th, 2015 2:45 AM
Author: Silver thriller milk senate

When I did this, my life went from 125 to 175 overnight. The only challenge is figuring out what to do afterward. Regardless, a year is a significant chunk of life and you should take rhe job

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2818563&forum_id=2#27399027)



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Date: February 27th, 2015 9:00 AM
Author: iridescent cuck lay

Obvious question - what did you find

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2818563&forum_id=2#27399472)



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Date: February 28th, 2015 9:38 AM
Author: disturbing exciting stage

Did u go big fed after?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2818563&forum_id=2#27405190)



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Date: March 1st, 2015 1:52 AM
Author: Silver thriller milk senate

Still in the cship year, spending lots of time big fed networking. Can go back to my firm if it doesn't work out.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2818563&forum_id=2#27410106)



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Date: February 27th, 2015 9:08 AM
Author: Lake Beta Idea He Suggested

Fifth year is where you have to decide what you want to do with your career. So if you decide you want to pivot it is the right decision. Think about where you really want to be in 10 years.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2818563&forum_id=2#27399501)



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Date: February 27th, 2015 11:27 AM
Author: Swashbuckling House

This is right. If your goal is to return to your current firm and continue on a path to partnership, doing a clerkship is not a great idea. But if you're looking to transition to a much smaller firm, or to government, or academia, it can be a very good idea.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2818563&forum_id=2#27399938)



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Date: February 27th, 2015 11:24 AM
Author: Galvanic Spruce Regret



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2818563&forum_id=2#27399929)



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Date: February 27th, 2015 11:28 AM
Author: Vivacious Azure Telephone

no it's 180. then upgrade to a better firm

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2818563&forum_id=2#27399941)



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Date: February 27th, 2015 11:56 AM
Author: Galvanic Spruce Regret

I mean unless he doesn't get another job

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2818563&forum_id=2#27400077)



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Date: February 27th, 2015 1:44 PM
Author: Galvanic Spruce Regret



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2818563&forum_id=2#27400769)



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Date: February 27th, 2015 3:06 PM
Author: aggressive crystalline circlehead

(five alive!)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2818563&forum_id=2#27401394)



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Date: February 27th, 2015 10:10 PM
Author: Flesh hideous university scourge upon the earth

loved that girl.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2818563&forum_id=2#27403500)



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Date: February 27th, 2015 10:11 PM
Author: glassy native masturbator

Do it, only way to actually learn lit

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2818563&forum_id=2#27403504)



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Date: February 27th, 2015 10:28 PM
Author: Lake Beta Idea He Suggested

Weird advice from you

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2818563&forum_id=2#27403597)



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Date: February 27th, 2015 10:32 PM
Author: glassy native masturbator

? ive never berated federal clerkships, just BIGLAW... clerkships are pretty 180 ways to learn the law... LS shld teach that shit

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2818563&forum_id=2#27403609)



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Date: February 28th, 2015 11:39 PM
Author: ruby bat-shit-crazy deer antler kitchen

Shits killing me. I have no doubt that the next year will be better if I take the clerkship.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2818563&forum_id=2#27409432)



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Date: March 1st, 2015 5:17 PM
Author: Mildly autistic love of her life whorehouse

Unless you're dead set on making partner at your current firm and have a viable path, do it.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2818563&forum_id=2#27412672)



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Date: March 2nd, 2015 9:33 AM
Author: ruby bat-shit-crazy deer antler kitchen

It's probably too early to make partnership projections. That said, lots of people ahead of my quit or got fired, so my confidants tell me this should clear the way for me and help me out with partnership

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2818563&forum_id=2#27415650)