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Am I a damn fool if I take a clerkship as a 5th year?

It's in a rad city and I'm in a rut at work. I'm a lit assoc...
Big-titted Milk
  02/27/15
you can get a clerkship as a 5th year? i thought they were o...
Wild Point Round Eye
  02/27/15
Lots of judges won't even take first years any more. I don'...
Big-titted Milk
  02/27/15
how do you get one? just apply?
Wild Point Round Eye
  02/27/15
The SDNY website has every judge's hiring guidelines. I thi...
Big-titted Milk
  02/27/15
I'm taking one as a 4th and may take a CoA as a 5th. You're ...
Talking Heady Useless Brakes
  02/27/15
Probably can't get back in. It's a v30-50 firm but they don'...
Big-titted Milk
  02/27/15
what's one of the most 180 cites on earth that's still in th...
Stubborn turdskin site
  02/27/15
Name the 10 most 180 cities in the US. From that list, tell...
Big-titted Milk
  02/27/15
To be this jacked about a city I assume it can't be somethin...
Talking Heady Useless Brakes
  02/27/15
It's none of them. Wild. Maybe the city that I think is he...
Big-titted Milk
  02/27/15
Austin? Tahoe? Miami? San Juan? Seattle? Portland?
vermilion electric furnace
  02/27/15
No. Is there a federal court in Tahoe?
Big-titted Milk
  02/27/15
If there was, I'd be working there. There is one in reno tho...
Razzle-dazzle magenta garrison coffee pot
  02/27/15
San Diego?
Razzle-dazzle magenta garrison coffee pot
  02/27/15
Denver
Overrated theatre pocket flask
  02/27/15
You gotta do 10 so I can remain anonymous
Big-titted Milk
  02/27/15
how was Madison
sickened sapphire theater black woman
  02/28/15
Yea - that's a different scenario than me. But I am at a som...
Talking Heady Useless Brakes
  02/27/15
How was Austin? Re: your OP, tcr is to clerk in a distric...
Red cuck
  02/27/15
That would be pretty bad ass. I think the judge has connect...
Big-titted Milk
  02/27/15
Why'd they get stealthed?
wine sweet tailpipe main people
  02/27/15
I hear their work was shit and they had tons of warnings. Th...
Big-titted Milk
  02/27/15
Why'd you do it?
odious dead locus
  02/27/15
LSAT and rank of law school?
Apoplectic legend hospital
  02/27/15
xo TTT for both.
Big-titted Milk
  02/27/15
You'd be a damn fool if you didn't take it
contagious school
  02/27/15
Show your work.
Big-titted Milk
  02/27/15
Clerkships are 180. You'll actually feel like your work has ...
contagious school
  02/27/15
I agree that the significant pay cut would be worth it for t...
Big-titted Milk
  02/27/15
if you have big firm experience and you get a decent clerksh...
contagious school
  02/27/15
...
Aromatic Psychic
  02/27/15
When I did this, my life went from 125 to 175 overnight. Th...
vengeful awkward gas station lettuce
  02/27/15
Obvious question - what did you find
Talking Heady Useless Brakes
  02/27/15
Did u go big fed after?
exciting filthy pit
  02/28/15
Still in the cship year, spending lots of time big fed netwo...
vengeful awkward gas station lettuce
  03/01/15
Fifth year is where you have to decide what you want to do w...
jet-lagged coiffed knife
  02/27/15
This is right. If your goal is to return to your current fi...
Vivacious nofapping sound barrier box office
  02/27/15
...
Lake becky
  02/27/15
no it's 180. then upgrade to a better firm
sick lascivious institution
  02/27/15
I mean unless he doesn't get another job
Lake becky
  02/27/15
...
Lake becky
  02/27/15
(five alive!)
exhilarant internet-worthy background story
  02/27/15
loved that girl.
Bipolar pea-brained dilemma
  02/27/15
Do it, only way to actually learn lit
Erotic immigrant
  02/27/15
Weird advice from you
jet-lagged coiffed knife
  02/27/15
? ive never berated federal clerkships, just BIGLAW... clerk...
Erotic immigrant
  02/27/15
Shits killing me. I have no doubt that the next year will be...
Big-titted Milk
  02/28/15
Unless you're dead set on making partner at your current fir...
purple voyeur
  03/01/15
It's probably too early to make partnership projections. Tha...
Big-titted Milk
  03/02/15


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Date: February 27th, 2015 12:17 AM
Author: Big-titted Milk

It's in a rad city and I'm in a rut at work. I'm a lit associate so I think reading briefs and writing orders will be easy

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2818563&forum_id=2#27398549)



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Date: February 27th, 2015 12:18 AM
Author: Wild Point Round Eye

you can get a clerkship as a 5th year? i thought they were only available to 3L's.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2818563&forum_id=2#27398550)



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Date: February 27th, 2015 12:35 AM
Author: Big-titted Milk

Lots of judges won't even take first years any more. I don't think any SDNY judge does. Lots of NDCA and CDCA judges require prior experience.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2818563&forum_id=2#27398634)



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Date: February 27th, 2015 12:41 AM
Author: Wild Point Round Eye

how do you get one? just apply?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2818563&forum_id=2#27398657)



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Date: February 27th, 2015 12:42 AM
Author: Big-titted Milk

The SDNY website has every judge's hiring guidelines. I think some are on oscar but specifically say they're not looking for first years. But yes, you just apply.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2818563&forum_id=2#27398668)



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Date: February 27th, 2015 12:20 AM
Author: Talking Heady Useless Brakes

I'm taking one as a 4th and may take a CoA as a 5th. You're going to get a lot of conflicting reports here. If you can go back to the firm with bonus, it's likely a cant lose. If not, who knows? Going to be dependent on goals, clerkship, etc.

I'm hoping you're not. I never really thought about not doing it though, shit seems to work out. Also, fuck biglaw usually.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2818563&forum_id=2#27398558)



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Date: February 27th, 2015 12:34 AM
Author: Big-titted Milk

Probably can't get back in. It's a v30-50 firm but they don't really appreciate clerkships. I'd also be fucking them pretty bad--they just stealthed some dudes so I'm fucking slammed, and we have a bunch of briefing deadlines coming up.

I did a circuit clerkship as a first year. This is basically a year of chilling in one of the most 180 cities on earth

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2818563&forum_id=2#27398624)



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Date: February 27th, 2015 12:38 AM
Author: Stubborn turdskin site

what's one of the most 180 cites on earth that's still in this country?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2818563&forum_id=2#27398646)



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Date: February 27th, 2015 12:40 AM
Author: Big-titted Milk

Name the 10 most 180 cities in the US. From that list, tell me which you would consider to be among the most 180 on earth. I will tell you if the relevant city is on your list of 10, and maybe the second list if I don't think it outs me.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2818563&forum_id=2#27398653)



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Date: February 27th, 2015 12:56 AM
Author: Talking Heady Useless Brakes

To be this jacked about a city I assume it can't be something standard like NY/Chi/LA.

NOLA, Nashville, Vegas, San Fran, Hawaii, Virginia islands, fuck I don't know

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2818563&forum_id=2#27398720)



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Date: February 27th, 2015 1:05 AM
Author: Big-titted Milk

It's none of them. Wild. Maybe the city that I think is heaven isn't the city everyone else thinks is heaven.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2818563&forum_id=2#27398730)



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Date: February 27th, 2015 1:17 AM
Author: vermilion electric furnace

Austin? Tahoe? Miami? San Juan? Seattle? Portland?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2818563&forum_id=2#27398765)



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Date: February 27th, 2015 1:20 AM
Author: Big-titted Milk

No. Is there a federal court in Tahoe?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2818563&forum_id=2#27398787)



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Date: February 27th, 2015 9:06 AM
Author: Razzle-dazzle magenta garrison coffee pot

If there was, I'd be working there. There is one in reno though which is very close to Tahoe. Maybe 45 minutes away. Sacramento too, that's about an hour 1/2 away.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2818563&forum_id=2#27399495)



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Date: February 27th, 2015 9:05 AM
Author: Razzle-dazzle magenta garrison coffee pot

San Diego?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2818563&forum_id=2#27399488)



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Date: February 27th, 2015 10:25 PM
Author: Overrated theatre pocket flask

Denver

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2818563&forum_id=2#27403586)



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Date: February 27th, 2015 11:17 PM
Author: Big-titted Milk

You gotta do 10 so I can remain anonymous

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2818563&forum_id=2#27403806)



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Date: February 28th, 2015 11:41 PM
Author: sickened sapphire theater black woman

how was Madison

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2818563&forum_id=2#27409448)



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Date: February 27th, 2015 12:58 AM
Author: Talking Heady Useless Brakes

Yea - that's a different scenario than me. But I am at a somewhat similarly ranked firm that also doesn't really value clerks. Have to think some big fed or DOJ is out there. If not, maybe another biglaw firm and come in with some retarded seniority or a mid law/boutique that is all about clerks.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2818563&forum_id=2#27398721)



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Date: February 27th, 2015 1:00 AM
Author: Red cuck

How was Austin?

Re: your OP, tcr is to clerk in a district where you want to go AUSA or local boutique/midlaw where your new judge has connections.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2818563&forum_id=2#27398724)



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Date: February 27th, 2015 1:07 AM
Author: Big-titted Milk

That would be pretty bad ass. I think the judge has connections. It's a matter of whether those connections will pay off for me in the long run.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2818563&forum_id=2#27398737)



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Date: February 27th, 2015 10:09 PM
Author: wine sweet tailpipe main people

Why'd they get stealthed?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2818563&forum_id=2#27403496)



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Date: February 27th, 2015 11:19 PM
Author: Big-titted Milk

I hear their work was shit and they had tons of warnings. They were in my group, but my level, so they never really worked for me and I've never seen their work.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2818563&forum_id=2#27403816)



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Date: February 27th, 2015 12:48 AM
Author: odious dead locus

Why'd you do it?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2818563&forum_id=2#27398694)



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Date: February 27th, 2015 12:18 AM
Author: Apoplectic legend hospital

LSAT and rank of law school?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2818563&forum_id=2#27398551)



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Date: February 27th, 2015 12:37 AM
Author: Big-titted Milk

xo TTT for both.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2818563&forum_id=2#27398639)



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Date: February 27th, 2015 1:05 AM
Author: contagious school

You'd be a damn fool if you didn't take it

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2818563&forum_id=2#27398731)



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Date: February 27th, 2015 1:07 AM
Author: Big-titted Milk

Show your work.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2818563&forum_id=2#27398738)



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Date: February 27th, 2015 1:08 AM
Author: contagious school

Clerkships are 180. You'll actually feel like your work has meaning and you are contributing to the betterment of society in a non-flame way.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2818563&forum_id=2#27398742)



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Date: February 27th, 2015 1:09 AM
Author: Big-titted Milk

I agree that the significant pay cut would be worth it for the term of the clerkship. Just worried that I'll be sleeping in my car afterwards.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2818563&forum_id=2#27398746)



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Date: February 27th, 2015 1:10 AM
Author: contagious school

if you have big firm experience and you get a decent clerkship then I don't think it'd be an issue to fit in somewhere after. Might not be biglaw but you'll be alright.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2818563&forum_id=2#27398747)



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Date: February 27th, 2015 1:14 PM
Author: Aromatic Psychic



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2818563&forum_id=2#27400538)



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Date: February 27th, 2015 2:45 AM
Author: vengeful awkward gas station lettuce

When I did this, my life went from 125 to 175 overnight. The only challenge is figuring out what to do afterward. Regardless, a year is a significant chunk of life and you should take rhe job

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2818563&forum_id=2#27399027)



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Date: February 27th, 2015 9:00 AM
Author: Talking Heady Useless Brakes

Obvious question - what did you find

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2818563&forum_id=2#27399472)



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Date: February 28th, 2015 9:38 AM
Author: exciting filthy pit

Did u go big fed after?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2818563&forum_id=2#27405190)



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Date: March 1st, 2015 1:52 AM
Author: vengeful awkward gas station lettuce

Still in the cship year, spending lots of time big fed networking. Can go back to my firm if it doesn't work out.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2818563&forum_id=2#27410106)



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Date: February 27th, 2015 9:08 AM
Author: jet-lagged coiffed knife

Fifth year is where you have to decide what you want to do with your career. So if you decide you want to pivot it is the right decision. Think about where you really want to be in 10 years.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2818563&forum_id=2#27399501)



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Date: February 27th, 2015 11:27 AM
Author: Vivacious nofapping sound barrier box office

This is right. If your goal is to return to your current firm and continue on a path to partnership, doing a clerkship is not a great idea. But if you're looking to transition to a much smaller firm, or to government, or academia, it can be a very good idea.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2818563&forum_id=2#27399938)



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Date: February 27th, 2015 11:24 AM
Author: Lake becky



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2818563&forum_id=2#27399929)



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Date: February 27th, 2015 11:28 AM
Author: sick lascivious institution

no it's 180. then upgrade to a better firm

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2818563&forum_id=2#27399941)



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Date: February 27th, 2015 11:56 AM
Author: Lake becky

I mean unless he doesn't get another job

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2818563&forum_id=2#27400077)



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Date: February 27th, 2015 1:44 PM
Author: Lake becky



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2818563&forum_id=2#27400769)



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Date: February 27th, 2015 3:06 PM
Author: exhilarant internet-worthy background story

(five alive!)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2818563&forum_id=2#27401394)



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Date: February 27th, 2015 10:10 PM
Author: Bipolar pea-brained dilemma

loved that girl.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2818563&forum_id=2#27403500)



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Date: February 27th, 2015 10:11 PM
Author: Erotic immigrant

Do it, only way to actually learn lit

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2818563&forum_id=2#27403504)



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Date: February 27th, 2015 10:28 PM
Author: jet-lagged coiffed knife

Weird advice from you

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2818563&forum_id=2#27403597)



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Date: February 27th, 2015 10:32 PM
Author: Erotic immigrant

? ive never berated federal clerkships, just BIGLAW... clerkships are pretty 180 ways to learn the law... LS shld teach that shit

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2818563&forum_id=2#27403609)



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Date: February 28th, 2015 11:39 PM
Author: Big-titted Milk

Shits killing me. I have no doubt that the next year will be better if I take the clerkship.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2818563&forum_id=2#27409432)



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Date: March 1st, 2015 5:17 PM
Author: purple voyeur

Unless you're dead set on making partner at your current firm and have a viable path, do it.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2818563&forum_id=2#27412672)



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Date: March 2nd, 2015 9:33 AM
Author: Big-titted Milk

It's probably too early to make partnership projections. That said, lots of people ahead of my quit or got fired, so my confidants tell me this should clear the way for me and help me out with partnership

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2818563&forum_id=2#27415650)