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How much are BigLaw refugees making at age 40?
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Date: March 6th, 2015 12:42 PM Author: tantric irradiated associate old irish cottage The average guy flames out of BigLaw after ~4 years, tries to go In-house, smaller firm, or government (taking a paycut) and then works his way up the ladder.
Law students fixate on the 160k+ early on, but how easy it to maintain that trajectory, knowing that you're never going to make partner?
Is it fair to assume you can find a good gig making ~200k by the time you're 40/entering your prime earning years/trying to provide for the family? Is 200 too high a guess?
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Date: March 6th, 2015 12:47 PM Author: Razzmatazz bonkers pit goyim A lot of BIGLAW flame outs never really practice LOL again. So who knows what they are making. They just go into the general workforce.
Other pppl maybe are making 150k to 250k doing GOV law or some non profit shit or inhouse crap or small firm. 200k is not a fucking bad lifestyle once you know wtf u are doing in law. U are just repeating the same shit over |
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Date: March 6th, 2015 12:51 PM Author: tantric irradiated associate old irish cottage Think Fed Gov lawyer payscale caps out at like 160 and that's after years of service?
Kinda sucks that our earning peak might come around 29 lol |
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Date: March 6th, 2015 1:01 PM Author: Razzmatazz bonkers pit goyim who cares idiot, life is not abt making max money (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2823837&forum_id=2#27440858) |
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Date: March 6th, 2015 1:15 PM Author: lavender thriller home there are other ways to make money as a gov lawyer that surpasses 160 (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2823837&forum_id=2#27440959) |
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Date: March 6th, 2015 1:24 PM Author: Razzmatazz bonkers pit goyim where? even shittylawyers for SF are making 180k max plus like 40k in "benefits" which is mostly just over priced health insurance..
i think attorney general only makes 250k if that |
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Date: March 6th, 2015 1:37 PM Author: lavender thriller home there are some counties that pay their lawyers above this. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2823837&forum_id=2#27441130) |
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Date: March 6th, 2015 4:34 PM Author: Razzmatazz bonkers pit goyim where the hell does that? i dont even think MFH does.. I imagine there are probably some lawyers working for a small/med city that is rich and thy overpay their lawyers but for big cities/counties i dont know where wld pay more than SF (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2823837&forum_id=2#27442613) |
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Date: March 6th, 2015 11:08 PM Author: Painfully honest bbw maybe 1 or dos in the whole country, and boomers own those jobs (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2823837&forum_id=2#27444905) |
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Date: March 6th, 2015 12:49 PM Author: Exhilarant Native I'm not 40 for a couple of years, but about $450k this year...probably won't go up much between now and 40. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2823837&forum_id=2#27440797) |
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Date: March 6th, 2015 12:52 PM Author: tantric irradiated associate old irish cottage details? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2823837&forum_id=2#27440812) |
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Date: March 6th, 2015 12:54 PM Author: Exhilarant Native Boutique/mid-size firm partner (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2823837&forum_id=2#27440819) |
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Date: March 6th, 2015 12:56 PM Author: tantric irradiated associate old irish cottage Nicely done. Did you change cities from your biglaw firm? How did you build a client base to generate that kind of change? Have to hustle hard or got lucky? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2823837&forum_id=2#27440832) |
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Date: March 6th, 2015 1:00 PM Author: Exhilarant Native same city.
I don't have a huge client base, originated about $425k last year, from some new clients and some clients that came with me from biglaw.
Mostly just became the second most important lawyer for the firm's biggest most demanding client...involved some pretty hard work to solidify that position, but now it basically guarantees I'm busy 30 hours a week (with no end in sight), and everything else is gravy. |
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Date: March 6th, 2015 1:01 PM Author: Misunderstood bawdyhouse what do you do with all that money (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2823837&forum_id=2#27440855) |
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Date: March 6th, 2015 1:06 PM Author: Exhilarant Native I have two kids and live in the Bay Area....there isn't as much as you might think left over, but what I do keep I save or put towards new RE investments. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2823837&forum_id=2#27440877) |
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Date: March 6th, 2015 1:06 PM Author: Misunderstood bawdyhouse do you own a house/condo (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2823837&forum_id=2#27440880) |
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Date: March 6th, 2015 1:07 PM Author: Exhilarant Native rent, but own other stuff that we don't live in....currently trying to buy the building we live in from our landlord, which is a psychological struggle. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2823837&forum_id=2#27440891) |
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Date: March 6th, 2015 1:08 PM Author: Misunderstood bawdyhouse how much do you pay in rent? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2823837&forum_id=2#27440898) |
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Date: March 6th, 2015 1:12 PM Author: Exhilarant Native $3550. We have rent control, so it can't go up more than 1-2% a year, which is one of our landlord pressure points, as we pretend with the landlord that we will stay forever, and I might just do that to spite him. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2823837&forum_id=2#27440935) |
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Date: March 6th, 2015 1:13 PM Author: Misunderstood bawdyhouse how much do you have in savings? break down between retirement, cash, and investments (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2823837&forum_id=2#27440945) |
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Date: March 6th, 2015 1:16 PM Author: Exhilarant Native Between my wife and me, like $500k in 401ks, $175k in other investment accounts, $50k in cash and about $500k in real estate equity. I have made a couple really dumb investments that I don't want to get into....I'd probably have close to $2mm if I hadn't. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2823837&forum_id=2#27440980) |
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Date: March 6th, 2015 1:17 PM Author: Misunderstood bawdyhouse where is the real estate (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2823837&forum_id=2#27440985) |
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Date: March 6th, 2015 1:18 PM Author: Exhilarant Native Bay Area. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2823837&forum_id=2#27440998) |
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Date: March 6th, 2015 1:22 PM Author: Misunderstood bawdyhouse are they single unit rentals (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2823837&forum_id=2#27441024) |
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Date: March 6th, 2015 1:24 PM Author: Exhilarant Native No, multifamily. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2823837&forum_id=2#27441043) |
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Date: March 6th, 2015 1:38 PM Author: Misunderstood bawdyhouse do you have an apt manager you pay? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2823837&forum_id=2#27441146) |
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Date: March 6th, 2015 1:49 PM Author: Exhilarant Native for one of them, I have a management co that take 5% of rents...for the other, which is much smaller, my wife handles the little that needs to be done. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2823837&forum_id=2#27441218) |
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Date: March 6th, 2015 1:49 PM Author: Misunderstood bawdyhouse how much did you put down on them and are you cash flow positive? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2823837&forum_id=2#27441222) |
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Date: March 6th, 2015 1:52 PM Author: Exhilarant Native I have investors for each, so me personally not that much. One had a road bump and is still a little negative because of vacancy, but not for much longer....the other is solidly positive. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2823837&forum_id=2#27441238) |
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Date: March 6th, 2015 1:04 PM Author: tantric irradiated associate old irish cottage Congrats man. Sounds like the dream. Can you give a practice group (at least generally). Non-lit I'm guessing? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2823837&forum_id=2#27440868) |
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Date: March 6th, 2015 1:07 PM Author: Exhilarant Native Transactional. We have lit partners who do similarly well, but we aren't making any lit partners right now without a portable book. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2823837&forum_id=2#27440884) |
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Date: March 6th, 2015 1:07 PM Author: Misunderstood bawdyhouse how do those lit partners generate $425K of business each year in midlaw (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2823837&forum_id=2#27440889) |
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Date: March 6th, 2015 1:09 PM Author: Exhilarant Native some have their own clients, one had a big case that kept a couple busy, but at this point many of them just feed off the transaction client teet....it is actually a big point of contention in the firm that the lit group doesn't have enough of their own business, and doesn't seem to try that hard to get it. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2823837&forum_id=2#27440904) |
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Date: March 6th, 2015 1:10 PM Author: Misunderstood bawdyhouse how can they have that many clients that generate repeat business of $425k every year in litigation (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2823837&forum_id=2#27440919) |
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Date: March 6th, 2015 1:13 PM Author: Exhilarant Native sure. Tons of litigation groups do a heck of a lot better than that...key is you have to network and do business development and be really good. Problem is that ours don't. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2823837&forum_id=2#27440940) |
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Date: March 6th, 2015 1:17 PM Author: metal tanning salon incel what kind of question is this?
durrr durrr how do companies spend money on litigation???
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Date: March 6th, 2015 1:21 PM Author: Misunderstood bawdyhouse b/c most companies don't generate that kind of repeat litigation business and if they do they farm it out to 10 different firms and none of them are midlaw (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2823837&forum_id=2#27441022) |
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Date: March 6th, 2015 1:23 PM Author: Exhilarant Native actually, I don't think this is correct. The firms that farm work out actually do give it to Midlaw....our rates are like 30% lower than biglaw, and our lawyers are all form biglawyers who can handle 90% of litigation just as competently....most co's are very cost conscious about litigation costs, especially when it isn't "bet the company" stuff that they feel they need to give to the tip top firms. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2823837&forum_id=2#27441039) |
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Date: March 6th, 2015 1:24 PM Author: metal tanning salon incel first of all, the poster wasn't saying that people with $400k books are all generating that off of one client.
second lol wtf you're saying that companies that generate a half million in litigation work every year spread that between ten biglaw firms at $50,000 each? that's retarded. |
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Date: March 6th, 2015 1:32 PM Author: Misunderstood bawdyhouse in house counsel has a list of firms and they rotate them through one case at a time (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2823837&forum_id=2#27441101) |
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Date: March 6th, 2015 1:33 PM Author: metal tanning salon incel you sound like an idiot tbh (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2823837&forum_id=2#27441110) |
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Date: March 6th, 2015 1:30 PM Author: Clear love of her life LOL, so what do you think all these midlaw litigation practices are doing with their time? billing make believe clients? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2823837&forum_id=2#27441095) |
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Date: March 6th, 2015 1:35 PM Author: Misunderstood bawdyhouse the people i know in midlaw with business and doing well get it off a lot of steady one-off referral work not b/c they handle all of starbucks sub $1MM contract disputes. i asking Qs b/c i am curious not b/c im challenging him (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2823837&forum_id=2#27441118) |
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Date: March 6th, 2015 1:19 PM Author: lavender thriller home what type of biglaw? -- market, practice group, reputation of practice group etc.
how much does practice group reputation mean when trying to exit biglaw? |
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Date: March 6th, 2015 1:22 PM Author: Exhilarant Native Bay Area. Transactional. Pretty highly thought of....although I'm not sure it is that difficult to move into mid-law if you are at a top firm, even if the practice area isn't that well known. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2823837&forum_id=2#27441023) |
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Date: March 6th, 2015 1:38 PM Author: lavender thriller home what do you consider top? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2823837&forum_id=2#27441137) |
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Date: March 6th, 2015 1:50 PM Author: Exhilarant Native top 50 firms in the country. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2823837&forum_id=2#27441223) |
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Date: March 6th, 2015 2:08 PM Author: lavender thriller home hmm. well that seems generous but OK (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2823837&forum_id=2#27441373) |
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Date: March 6th, 2015 2:15 PM Author: Exhilarant Native i'm a generous guy. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2823837&forum_id=2#27441461) |
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Date: March 6th, 2015 12:49 PM Author: violent church striped hyena As long as you don't do litigation, 200K is reasonable. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2823837&forum_id=2#27440799) |
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Date: March 6th, 2015 1:29 PM Author: Clear love of her life LOL WHAT? Tons of ex-biglawyers end up at as partners at smaller firms making in excess of $200k, while trannies are essentially doomed to wage slavery as an in-house cog for the rest of their lives. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2823837&forum_id=2#27441085) |
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Date: March 6th, 2015 12:54 PM Author: Misunderstood bawdyhouse Look at a guy like this
http://www.earlysullivan.com/attorneys/michael-jones
PhD Stanford, ug at Ox, has been at like 5 different firms. Probably makes like $150K |
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Date: March 6th, 2015 1:05 PM Author: metal tanning salon incel LULZ that guy seems like a fucking faggot.
going to oxford ug as an american is retarded as fuck and is nowhere near as competitive as HYP. and lol at you giving him props on some bullshit PhD at staford.
could only get into BoalTTT for lol school so obviously he's nothing special in terms of intellectual horsepower. |
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Date: March 6th, 2015 1:09 PM Author: slippery cumskin toilet seat At least he's handsome (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2823837&forum_id=2#27440906) |
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Date: March 6th, 2015 1:14 PM Author: metal tanning salon incel lul wut (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2823837&forum_id=2#27440953) |
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Date: March 6th, 2015 1:15 PM Author: slippery cumskin toilet seat Dashing salt n pepper humanist Anglo Jew litigator (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2823837&forum_id=2#27440964) |
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Date: March 6th, 2015 1:18 PM Author: slippery cumskin toilet seat ;-) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2823837&forum_id=2#27441002) |
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Date: March 6th, 2015 1:57 PM Author: adulterous light brethren FATAL FLAW: He's probably 5'4 (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2823837&forum_id=2#27441279) |
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Date: March 6th, 2015 1:18 PM Author: Misunderstood bawdyhouse he's british (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2823837&forum_id=2#27441004) |
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Date: March 6th, 2015 1:20 PM Author: marvelous effete psychic orchestra pit He's probably British. And the surest sign of his low intellectual horsepower is that he became a lawyer. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2823837&forum_id=2#27441015) |
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Date: March 6th, 2015 1:22 PM Author: talented mint shrine mexican (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2823837&forum_id=2#27441032) |
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Date: March 6th, 2015 1:32 PM Author: flickering hall Eh. It's a self selective process. The UK system weeds out the potential applicants before allowing them to apply to Oxbridge. English lit at Balloil is seriously impressive.
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Date: March 6th, 2015 1:47 PM Author: shivering nudist church building I like how their Phoenix "office" is a Regus office.
http://www.regus.com/office-space/united-states/arizona/phoenix |
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Date: March 6th, 2015 1:54 PM Author: sienna casino NY, too. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2823837&forum_id=2#27441256) |
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Date: March 6th, 2015 1:57 PM Author: adulterous light brethren Law must be hell for someone like that. Obviously has creative interest if he got a PhD in English. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2823837&forum_id=2#27441274) |
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Date: March 6th, 2015 1:33 PM Author: flickering hall Left BIGLAW some years ago. Now at 400+K.
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Date: March 6th, 2015 1:38 PM Author: lavender thriller home doing what praytell?? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2823837&forum_id=2#27441145) |
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Date: March 6th, 2015 1:44 PM Author: talented mint shrine mexican (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2823837&forum_id=2#27441183) |
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Date: March 6th, 2015 1:45 PM Author: sienna casino He makes bank while living in 110-degree hell. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2823837&forum_id=2#27441189) |
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Date: March 6th, 2015 1:45 PM Author: shivering nudist church building Another Phoenician? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2823837&forum_id=2#27441198) |
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Date: March 6th, 2015 1:50 PM Author: flickering hall It's 70 and sunny today. Compare that to the snowmaggedon and ice that is the northeast USA.
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Date: March 6th, 2015 1:51 PM Author: sienna casino Same here. *high five*
No desire to live in NE USA, either. |
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Date: March 6th, 2015 1:50 PM Author: flickering hall Managing director for the MENA region for a midsize multinational. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2823837&forum_id=2#27441230) |
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Date: March 6th, 2015 2:07 PM Author: lavender thriller home oh ok. so you aren't a lawyer.
moving on... |
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Date: March 6th, 2015 2:14 PM Author: flickering hall I was in BIGLAW. I went in house for a corporation and moved up from there. We were talking about what people do post biglaw. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2823837&forum_id=2#27441454) |
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Date: March 6th, 2015 2:08 PM Author: talented mint shrine mexican howd you cop dat (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2823837&forum_id=2#27441381) |
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Date: March 6th, 2015 2:15 PM Author: flickering hall See above. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2823837&forum_id=2#27441457) |
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Date: March 6th, 2015 2:12 PM Author: tan filthy jew didnt u say u are in finance (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2823837&forum_id=2#27441422) |
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Date: March 6th, 2015 2:15 PM Author: flickering hall Nope. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2823837&forum_id=2#27441460) |
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Date: March 6th, 2015 2:42 PM Author: beady-eyed crawly crackhouse crotch no surprise you are such a faggot (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2823837&forum_id=2#27441723) |
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Date: March 6th, 2015 3:45 PM Author: Histrionic honey-headed point For everyone on this board who says they have T14 Unemployed friends: why do so many ex biglaw peeps seem to do so well? this board convinced me not to go to law school. Sometimes I think I should have gone (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2823837&forum_id=2#27442329) |
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Date: March 6th, 2015 4:09 PM Author: Azure Abode Fanboi What year would you've graduated? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2823837&forum_id=2#27442501) |
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Date: March 6th, 2015 4:26 PM Author: Histrionic honey-headed point 2017. I'm still young enough to go (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2823837&forum_id=2#27442568) |
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Date: March 6th, 2015 4:31 PM Author: Azure Abode Fanboi one year is nothing. yet timing is everything. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2823837&forum_id=2#27442598) |
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Date: March 6th, 2015 4:53 PM Author: tripping soggy stag film filthpig if you have a T14 as an option with $$$, its a good choice. thats assuming there's not another downturn (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2823837&forum_id=2#27442715) |
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Date: March 6th, 2015 5:14 PM Author: Histrionic honey-headed point anyone else agree? I had 100k at Cornell (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2823837&forum_id=2#27442864) |
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Date: March 6th, 2015 5:16 PM Author: Misunderstood bawdyhouse how much will u owe (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2823837&forum_id=2#27442881) |
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Date: March 6th, 2015 5:21 PM Author: Histrionic honey-headed point 100k (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2823837&forum_id=2#27442905) |
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Date: March 6th, 2015 5:21 PM Author: Misunderstood bawdyhouse what are your other options (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2823837&forum_id=2#27442907) |
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Date: March 6th, 2015 5:30 PM Author: Histrionic honey-headed point I graduated UG with almost perfect gpa in social sciences and have a grad degree in something similar. I though I should maybe gun for management consulting given the GPA but other than that I would gun for federal government job that really don't exist anymore. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2823837&forum_id=2#27442963) |
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Date: March 6th, 2015 5:32 PM Author: Misunderstood bawdyhouse did u get $ anywhere else besides cornell. can u go to a good state school (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2823837&forum_id=2#27442982) |
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Date: March 6th, 2015 5:51 PM Author: Histrionic honey-headed point Never applied but I could probably go for free, yeah. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2823837&forum_id=2#27443115) |
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Date: March 6th, 2015 7:24 PM Author: tripping soggy stag film filthpig if ure really owing 100k at cornell thats a good deal. drop out if you dont get biglaw after your first year. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2823837&forum_id=2#27443693) |
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Date: March 6th, 2015 9:09 PM Author: Histrionic honey-headed point That's what I thought too bro, but people on this board make biglaw sound like it's the worst thing possible. i took a 50k fellowship instead (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2823837&forum_id=2#27444259) |
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Date: March 7th, 2015 8:23 AM Author: Razzmatazz bonkers pit goyim it is the worst thing possible relatively speaking.. ull be enslaved to it simply to pay off ur fuking 100k plus in student loans and then once u get shit canned ull be emotionally and physically fuked up and never want to practice law again
and lol at his faggot generation now considering 100k at 7% interest NOT THAT BAD.... |
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Date: March 7th, 2015 10:45 AM Author: Histrionic honey-headed point bro, i don't think i could ever make above 100k working in "policy" in DC. for 100k debt and the chance to always make at least 100k for the rest of my life, that's not a bad deal for people like me. people on the board talk all the time about how you can coast for at least a few months in biglaw. a few months = like a third of the loans paid off. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2823837&forum_id=2#27446501) |
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Date: March 8th, 2015 3:11 AM Author: Big-titted Location More BIGLAW bros and frankly more Cornell JD grads than you'd ever imagine would KILL for a 100K a year "policy" job in DC; usually he kind that involve a JD and 40 hours a week and some upward potential (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2823837&forum_id=2#27450898) |
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Date: March 7th, 2015 6:23 PM Author: Indigo area french chef retake lsat obviously (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2823837&forum_id=2#27448752) |
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Date: March 7th, 2015 11:11 PM Author: Histrionic honey-headed point Not sure if I can score better than 171 (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2823837&forum_id=2#27450157) |
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Date: March 6th, 2015 4:28 PM Author: tan filthy jew because they survived biglaw, that's like top 10% already, you can still go (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2823837&forum_id=2#27442577) |
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Date: March 6th, 2015 4:48 PM Author: Histrionic honey-headed point Survived? They left after a few years, like everyone (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2823837&forum_id=2#27442676) |
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Date: March 6th, 2015 7:27 PM Author: Brass Giraffe Boistinker A bunch of people, even from T14s, don't get BIGLAW at all. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2823837&forum_id=2#27443722) |
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Date: March 6th, 2015 4:28 PM Author: Exhilarant Native still don't go. Law is a miserable and incredibly unenjoyable profession, even if you make good money, it is isn't worth working on something so meaningless. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2823837&forum_id=2#27442579) |
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Date: March 6th, 2015 4:30 PM Author: lavender thriller home you a litigation bro? i think transactional can be pretty interesting (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2823837&forum_id=2#27442589) |
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Date: March 6th, 2015 4:32 PM Author: Exhilarant Native transactional. It is never close to as interesting as being on the business side of a transaction. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2823837&forum_id=2#27442601) |
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Date: March 6th, 2015 4:31 PM Author: tripping soggy stag film filthpig what are some examples of meaningful work (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2823837&forum_id=2#27442594) |
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Date: March 6th, 2015 4:34 PM Author: Exhilarant Native making something. providing a service that actually improves lives every time it is used, rather than one that is just a transactional tax where 95% of the documents you produce are never looked at after they are signed. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2823837&forum_id=2#27442609) |
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Date: March 6th, 2015 4:36 PM Author: Misunderstood bawdyhouse what kind of car do you drive (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2823837&forum_id=2#27442617) |
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Date: March 7th, 2015 3:33 AM Author: flatulent hell lol 180 (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2823837&forum_id=2#27445928) |
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Date: March 6th, 2015 4:55 PM Author: Pearl stirring friendly grandma half-breed pretty sure the Cap Mktz BALLER who invented the first driverless car risk factor did meaningful work.
http://www.wsj.com/articles/will-the-driverless-car-upend-insurance-1425428891 |
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Date: March 6th, 2015 4:45 PM Author: Histrionic honey-headed point More misable than working a tedious fedgov job? Always wondering what options you could have had? More shitty than settling for a "lifer" status at the age of 25? more shitty Than having no career options? Shitter than DC? That's debatable. At least when you go to law school and put in a few years in biglaw you more or less have the chance to transition out of law or solo if you have any people skills. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2823837&forum_id=2#27442656) |
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Date: March 6th, 2015 4:51 PM Author: turquoise tank telephone You seem pretty desperate to justify ruining your life. Why? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2823837&forum_id=2#27442692) |
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Date: March 6th, 2015 11:16 PM Author: vigorous stead if you think dc is "shitty" you're just a whiny nigger. it's no better or worse than most cities (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2823837&forum_id=2#27444986) |
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Date: March 8th, 2015 3:13 AM Author: Big-titted Location so basically u have a PMF job and ur MAF that ur not some biglaw $$$ maker, lol dude ur immature as fuck (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2823837&forum_id=2#27450906) |
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Date: March 6th, 2015 5:24 PM Author: diverse gaming laptop 37 here, making 65K in low/mid COL mkt, reasonably happy. BigLaw was probably the worst year of my life. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2823837&forum_id=2#27442921) |
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Date: March 6th, 2015 5:25 PM Author: Navy newt plaza pls explain your career trajectory from 1 year of biglaw to where you are now. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2823837&forum_id=2#27442933) |
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Date: March 6th, 2015 5:34 PM Author: diverse gaming laptop lol @ "career trajectory", if I had been that careful, I wouldn't have left biglaw after a year.
"Regional" BigLaw @110K ----> small business position (vaguely related to law) @70K that I liked decently but knew wasn't right, stayed for 18 months -----> feels-good current career currently @65K, been doing it for about 5 years. |
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Date: March 6th, 2015 5:36 PM Author: Clear love of her life (loser) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2823837&forum_id=2#27443001) |
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Date: March 6th, 2015 5:36 PM Author: diverse gaming laptop really? sad. I have a lot of money in the bank, maybe that changes your mind. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2823837&forum_id=2#27443006) |
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Date: March 6th, 2015 5:41 PM Author: lavender thriller home not from the jobs that you've held (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2823837&forum_id=2#27443034) |
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Date: March 6th, 2015 5:43 PM Author: diverse gaming laptop Yes, I agree. About 20% from job income savings and investment return from that. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2823837&forum_id=2#27443053) |
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Date: March 6th, 2015 5:41 PM Author: Misunderstood bawdyhouse you're a winner to me bro (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2823837&forum_id=2#27443038) |
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Date: March 6th, 2015 5:38 PM Author: Navy newt plaza did you think you were done with law when you left biglaw? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2823837&forum_id=2#27443013) |
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Date: March 6th, 2015 5:40 PM Author: diverse gaming laptop yes, at least directly. in my current job, the jd will be helpful for advancement over the next decade, but i knew i wouldn't be a lawyer. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2823837&forum_id=2#27443030) |
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Date: March 6th, 2015 5:41 PM Author: lavender thriller home lol at advancement. you've been there 5 years and are making 65k. jesus you are nearly 40 and haven't broken six figures |
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Date: March 6th, 2015 5:44 PM Author: diverse gaming laptop Advancement will be to 80-100K in my 40's, most likely, but with very high QOL. I love my work. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2823837&forum_id=2#27443063) |
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Date: March 6th, 2015 5:44 PM Author: talented mint shrine mexican money isnt everything (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2823837&forum_id=2#27443068) |
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Date: March 6th, 2015 6:06 PM Author: lavender thriller home no but not having it is (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2823837&forum_id=2#27443202) |
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Date: March 6th, 2015 5:43 PM Author: talented mint shrine mexican how hard was it to get the non-legal job post law firm? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2823837&forum_id=2#27443056) |
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Date: March 6th, 2015 5:45 PM Author: diverse gaming laptop Not very. I have good credentials (top 10 UG, top 15 law) and I wasn't picky. Looking back, maybe I should have been pickier. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2823837&forum_id=2#27443071) |
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Date: March 6th, 2015 5:48 PM Author: talented mint shrine mexican care to offer any more details? where did you look? how did u explain leaving firm? references? how long unemployed? what would you have done differently? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2823837&forum_id=2#27443093) |
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Date: March 6th, 2015 5:57 PM Author: diverse gaming laptop Sure.
I explained leaving the firm by being very upfront about the lifestyle clash - not interested in working 70+ hour weeks even off-and-on, didn't realize it until I did it for a year.
I had one reference from the firm. He was a nice guy, he knew it wasn't for me pretty quickly.
I was only unemployed for about six weeks. later, I was unemployed for about six months after the post-BigLaw job, but that was largely due to timing - it wasn't very difficult to find employment once I absolutely knew what I wanted to do.
Don't really want to get into the content of the job or the job search immediately post-BigLaw, but it's pretty banal.
What would I have done differently? Not much. BigLaw was toxic for me, that was barely a decision. I should have retooled more aggressively in my new field instead of "doing just enough" to break in, but part of the appeal of my current job is precisely that I don't have to strive... |
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Date: March 6th, 2015 6:06 PM Author: talented mint shrine mexican ty (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2823837&forum_id=2#27443197) |
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Date: March 6th, 2015 5:40 PM Author: talented mint shrine mexican (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2823837&forum_id=2#27443027) |
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Date: March 7th, 2015 11:04 AM Author: Bright Pontificating Whorehouse Tattoo UVA Law did a study of its class of 1990 twenty years after graduation (i.e., mid-career) and I think they found median household income was like $250k. Top 10% was over $1 million.
That's pretty good. |
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Date: March 7th, 2015 11:06 AM Author: Ruby new version Not lawyers right
Like business men now? |
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Date: March 7th, 2015 11:17 AM Author: Histrionic honey-headed point link? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2823837&forum_id=2#27446651) |
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Date: March 7th, 2015 11:20 AM Author: Bright Pontificating Whorehouse Tattoo http://www.law.virginia.edu/html/news/2008_spr/monahan.htm
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Date: March 7th, 2015 4:12 PM Author: turquoise tank telephone Rofl. article was posted 5 months before Lehman Brothers filed for bankruptcy. things have changed a little. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2823837&forum_id=2#27448044) |
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Date: March 7th, 2015 11:25 PM Author: Bright Pontificating Whorehouse Tattoo I wasn't aware that ITE demolished the careers of lawyers with 20 years of experience. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2823837&forum_id=2#27450259) |
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Date: March 8th, 2015 12:21 AM Author: turquoise tank telephone Yes. Because that's precisely what I meant.
Are you stupid? Answer honestly. |
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Date: March 8th, 2015 12:24 AM Author: shivering nudist church building Household?
That's TTT. |
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Date: March 8th, 2015 12:31 AM Author: godawful trip boltzmann yeah, but it's gotta be worse for are generation. those dudes had it arguably the best anyone has ever had it: they made partner back when it was doable to make partner and are now raking it in (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2823837&forum_id=2#27450571) |
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Date: March 8th, 2015 3:15 AM Author: Big-titted Location cr, jfc what idiots o believe this link
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