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Forbes: What It Costs To Live Well

http://www.forbes.com/static_html/lifestyle/charts.shtml
indecent lavender resort
  03/20/15
LOL at fucking New York City
motley parlor
  03/20/15
The one that should stick out is Boston, as in, why would an...
bearded black set trump supporter
  03/20/15
tbf any NYC metric is including the whole city (if not metro...
talented milky psychic property
  03/20/15
Wha? This is for living well and is projecting a $3.9M home...
bearded black set trump supporter
  03/20/15
dem beans
Frisky market
  03/20/15
Boston suburbs >>> NYC suburbs
Bistre pistol stead
  03/25/15
we are in violent disagreement here
bearded black set trump supporter
  03/25/15
By the way, does that graphic load really slowly, line by li...
indecent lavender resort
  03/20/15
They're just building DAT EXCITEMENT brother!
bearded black set trump supporter
  03/20/15
That's how Xo works.
Very Tactful Maniacal Dingle Berry
  03/20/15
I suspect that's old. Seattle is way down there.
indecent lavender resort
  03/20/15
Yeah LOL at Seattle being cheaper than Houston.
Wonderful fiercely-loyal hissy fit
  03/20/15
Finally, this is exactly what I've been saying and everyone ...
Aphrodisiac public bath potus
  03/20/15
"B-b-but I HAVE to live in the BERESFORD!", TMF li...
bearded black set trump supporter
  03/20/15
If you want to live that lifestyle then even $500k isn't cut...
Aphrodisiac public bath potus
  03/20/15
some of those "expenses" are ridiculous. it includ...
floppy home
  03/20/15
a) I would adjust some of those in several directions. Goo...
Aphrodisiac public bath potus
  03/20/15
nah you need vacation money, but not a HOME. most people don...
floppy home
  03/20/15
I'm not really quibbling with this (and you just described w...
Aphrodisiac public bath potus
  03/20/15
time shares are ridiculous, but for $55k/year, you could rea...
Slap-happy flirting theater antidepressant drug
  03/20/15
damn didn't know houston was seattle level expensive
floppy home
  03/20/15
It isn't.
Mind-boggling dull ticket booth clown
  03/20/15
how are they defining living well?
walnut therapy ape
  03/20/15
The explain it here: http://www.forbes.com/2005/06/17/lif...
indecent lavender resort
  03/20/15
LOL @ needing a 4mm Apt AND a 2mm vacation home for NYC to b...
comical rose party of the first part stage
  03/20/15
LOL @ spending $400K to live in fucking Boston
bisexual theatre persian
  03/20/15
Index for cost of living EXTREMELY well. http://www.forbe...
indecent lavender resort
  03/20/15
DBG MAF that Forbes uses a clay court in their example.
bearded black set trump supporter
  03/20/15
...
godawful spruce weed whacker
  03/20/15
180
Pearl vengeful cuckoldry
  03/24/15
you're just throwing away money if you're spending $20K per ...
bisexual theatre persian
  03/20/15
Bro, if you can't afford to live well, that's ok.
indecent lavender resort
  03/20/15
isn't the whole point of having a $4M house that you don't h...
bisexual theatre persian
  03/20/15
no, thats the point of having a 786k house.
Harsh lay indirect expression
  03/20/15
lol titcr. Although I'd replace house with "50-year-old...
Transparent tripping chapel international law enforcement agency
  03/20/15
Hahahahaha. Hold on, let me catch my breath. Hahahahah...
henna charismatic french chef
  03/21/15
these numbers are post-tax. jesus.
bisexual theatre persian
  03/20/15
Well this is retarded. The cost of your (necessary) vaca...
fighting church
  03/20/15
"The cost of your (necessary) vacation home apparently ...
indecent lavender resort
  03/20/15
and PHX is 1.4 and 800k, which is weird since the vacation h...
fear-inspiring ivory crackhouse black woman
  03/20/15
That makes sense if the nearby vacation areas have different...
indecent lavender resort
  03/20/15
tbf i didn't actually look at that many, I just saw that the...
fighting church
  03/20/15
they explained that the vacation home was treated like a wee...
underhanded depressive
  03/20/15
I knew that when Birmingham, AL came out to $231k that I was...
Silver Spectacular Pit Telephone
  03/20/15
gas boomers now /thread
Mind-boggling dull ticket booth clown
  03/20/15
...
Insecure poppy rigpig area
  03/21/15
You can live in NYC if just WANT it bad enough
Topaz stage
  03/25/15
"Our family has two very upscale cars; a sporty BMW 325...
Fuchsia contagious dilemma famous landscape painting
  03/20/15
UNDERRATED
Topaz stage
  03/25/15
...
Bistre pistol stead
  03/25/15
wait, charleston wv is at 236k? i've driven through there a...
chartreuse fragrant box office private investor
  03/24/15
Man, how to waste money. You can live exactly as well for so...
Soul-stirring bat-shit-crazy state
  03/25/15
The people at that income level aren't spending their one tw...
bearded black set trump supporter
  03/25/15
Sooooo everyone gets that these Forbes/CNN Money articles ar...
Topaz stage
  03/25/15
Where the hell did they get $26k for private school in NYC? ...
Bistre pistol stead
  03/25/15
agreed
bearded black set trump supporter
  03/25/15
Why isn't SF included in the list?
Bistre pistol stead
  03/25/15


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Date: March 20th, 2015 3:00 PM
Author: indecent lavender resort

http://www.forbes.com/static_html/lifestyle/charts.shtml

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2834967&forum_id=2#27525840)



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Date: March 20th, 2015 3:02 PM
Author: motley parlor

LOL at fucking New York City

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2834967&forum_id=2#27525859)



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Date: March 20th, 2015 3:04 PM
Author: bearded black set trump supporter

The one that should stick out is Boston, as in, why would anyone choose Boston over NYC given the comparison in cities and costs?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2834967&forum_id=2#27525868)



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Date: March 20th, 2015 3:07 PM
Author: talented milky psychic property

tbf any NYC metric is including the whole city (if not metro). the core of boston/cambridge is expensive but still not nearly as expensive as MFH

also, I believe they would chose it if their jerb is there

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2834967&forum_id=2#27525883)



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Date: March 20th, 2015 3:08 PM
Author: bearded black set trump supporter

Wha? This is for living well and is projecting a $3.9M home in NYC. I'm pretty sure they mean MFH or top neighborhoods in Brooklyn here.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2834967&forum_id=2#27525894)



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Date: March 20th, 2015 9:11 PM
Author: Frisky market

dem beans

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2834967&forum_id=2#27528016)



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Date: March 25th, 2015 11:12 AM
Author: Bistre pistol stead

Boston suburbs >>> NYC suburbs

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2834967&forum_id=2#27551997)



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Date: March 25th, 2015 11:15 AM
Author: bearded black set trump supporter

we are in violent disagreement here

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2834967&forum_id=2#27552015)



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Date: March 20th, 2015 3:05 PM
Author: indecent lavender resort

By the way, does that graphic load really slowly, line by line for anyone else?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2834967&forum_id=2#27525877)



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Date: March 20th, 2015 3:06 PM
Author: bearded black set trump supporter

They're just building DAT EXCITEMENT brother!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2834967&forum_id=2#27525880)



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Date: March 20th, 2015 3:07 PM
Author: Very Tactful Maniacal Dingle Berry

That's how Xo works.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2834967&forum_id=2#27525885)



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Date: March 20th, 2015 3:07 PM
Author: indecent lavender resort

I suspect that's old.

Seattle is way down there.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2834967&forum_id=2#27525886)



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Date: March 20th, 2015 3:35 PM
Author: Wonderful fiercely-loyal hissy fit

Yeah LOL at Seattle being cheaper than Houston.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2834967&forum_id=2#27526103)



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Date: March 20th, 2015 3:07 PM
Author: Aphrodisiac public bath potus

Finally, this is exactly what I've been saying and everyone acted like I was being ridiculous. Living well requires like $500k/year in NYC and even $240k in a place like Birmingham, AL. All these "oh, you only need $50k/year to live well" posts are flame.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2834967&forum_id=2#27525891)



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Date: March 20th, 2015 3:09 PM
Author: bearded black set trump supporter

"B-b-but I HAVE to live in the BERESFORD!", TMF lisped.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2834967&forum_id=2#27525905)



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Date: March 20th, 2015 3:12 PM
Author: Aphrodisiac public bath potus

If you want to live that lifestyle then even $500k isn't cutting it. That is a 7 figure plus salary.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2834967&forum_id=2#27525923)



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Date: March 20th, 2015 3:12 PM
Author: floppy home

some of those "expenses" are ridiculous. it includes 105k/yr for a vacation home for MFH. i don't think you need a vacation home to "live well"

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2834967&forum_id=2#27525921)



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Date: March 20th, 2015 3:15 PM
Author: Aphrodisiac public bath potus

a) I would adjust some of those in several directions. Good private schools also cost more than $26k/year, and college will cost more than $30k/year. And they're allotting only $5k/year for savings. And I wouldn't pay a 30 year mortgage if I could avoid it. Not sure how they factor in stuff like maintenance.

b) If you live in MFH, something like a vacation home (or similar money to spend renting vacation homes) is a necessity. Otherwise, the urban environment becomes stifling.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2834967&forum_id=2#27525946)



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Date: March 20th, 2015 3:16 PM
Author: floppy home

nah you need vacation money, but not a HOME. most people don't have time for that anyway, they get 2-3 weeks off a year. better to travel somewhere new

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2834967&forum_id=2#27525957)



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Date: March 20th, 2015 3:19 PM
Author: Aphrodisiac public bath potus

I'm not really quibbling with this (and you just described why I wouldn't buy one), but you generally want to be able to rent a nice place in something like the Hamptons for the summer and that will come out to quite a bit.

By the way, they're just describing post-tax expenses. So to earn that you need an almost million dollar salary.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2834967&forum_id=2#27525979)



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Date: March 20th, 2015 3:30 PM
Author: Slap-happy flirting theater antidepressant drug

time shares are ridiculous, but for $55k/year, you could really live a sizable portion of the year in sweet places

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2834967&forum_id=2#27526056)



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Date: March 20th, 2015 3:11 PM
Author: floppy home

damn didn't know houston was seattle level expensive

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2834967&forum_id=2#27525915)



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Date: March 20th, 2015 3:19 PM
Author: Mind-boggling dull ticket booth clown

It isn't.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2834967&forum_id=2#27525977)



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Date: March 20th, 2015 3:13 PM
Author: walnut therapy ape

how are they defining living well?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2834967&forum_id=2#27525927)



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Date: March 20th, 2015 3:22 PM
Author: indecent lavender resort

The explain it here:

http://www.forbes.com/2005/06/17/lifestyle-realestate-livingwell-cx_sc_0617home.html

http://www.forbes.com/2005/06/24/realestate-livingwell-south-cx_sc_0624home.html

http://www.forbes.com/2005/07/01/realestate-livingwell-midwest-cx_sc_0701home.html

http://www.forbes.com/2005/07/07/realestate-livingwell-west-cx_sc_0708home_ls.html



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2834967&forum_id=2#27526004)



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Date: March 20th, 2015 3:14 PM
Author: comical rose party of the first part stage

LOL @ needing a 4mm Apt AND a 2mm vacation home for NYC to be "living well." You can find great apartments for way less $.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2834967&forum_id=2#27525943)



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Date: March 20th, 2015 3:18 PM
Author: bisexual theatre persian

LOL @ spending $400K to live in fucking Boston

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2834967&forum_id=2#27525970)



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Date: March 20th, 2015 3:18 PM
Author: indecent lavender resort

Index for cost of living EXTREMELY well.

http://www.forbes.com/sites/scottdecarlo/2013/09/18/cost-of-living-extremely-well-index-the-price-of-the-good-life/



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2834967&forum_id=2#27525974)



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Date: March 20th, 2015 3:20 PM
Author: bearded black set trump supporter

DBG MAF that Forbes uses a clay court in their example.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2834967&forum_id=2#27525988)



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Date: March 20th, 2015 10:48 PM
Author: godawful spruce weed whacker



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2834967&forum_id=2#27528741)



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Date: March 24th, 2015 5:23 PM
Author: Pearl vengeful cuckoldry

180

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2834967&forum_id=2#27548232)



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Date: March 20th, 2015 3:20 PM
Author: bisexual theatre persian

you're just throwing away money if you're spending $20K per year on cars

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2834967&forum_id=2#27525986)



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Date: March 20th, 2015 3:24 PM
Author: indecent lavender resort

Bro, if you can't afford to live well, that's ok.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2834967&forum_id=2#27526016)



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Date: March 20th, 2015 3:24 PM
Author: bisexual theatre persian

isn't the whole point of having a $4M house that you don't have to pay $20K per year for private school?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2834967&forum_id=2#27526013)



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Date: March 20th, 2015 3:27 PM
Author: Harsh lay indirect expression

no, thats the point of having a 786k house.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2834967&forum_id=2#27526036)



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Date: March 20th, 2015 4:09 PM
Author: Transparent tripping chapel international law enforcement agency

lol titcr. Although I'd replace house with "50-year-old shitbox."

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2834967&forum_id=2#27526344)



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Date: March 21st, 2015 12:17 AM
Author: henna charismatic french chef

Hahahahaha.

Hold on, let me catch my breath.

Hahahahaha.

The whole point of a $4M house is that you do pay $25-50K for private schools.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2834967&forum_id=2#27529143)



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Date: March 20th, 2015 3:25 PM
Author: bisexual theatre persian

these numbers are post-tax. jesus.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2834967&forum_id=2#27526022)



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Date: March 20th, 2015 3:28 PM
Author: fighting church

Well this is retarded.

The cost of your (necessary) vacation home apparently scales linearly with the cost of your actual home. You need a 4MM apt to live well and despite being in NYC your car costs don't go down.

Pretty tight little analysis they got going there.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2834967&forum_id=2#27526046)



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Date: March 20th, 2015 3:54 PM
Author: indecent lavender resort

"The cost of your (necessary) vacation home apparently scales linearly with the cost of your actual home."

Why do you think that?

City - House - Vacation

Anchorage - $775k - $400k

Atlanta - $1.4 million - $1.6 million

Minneapolis - $1.2 million - $775k

Salt Lake - $775k - $800k

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2834967&forum_id=2#27526263)



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Date: March 20th, 2015 4:01 PM
Author: fear-inspiring ivory crackhouse black woman

and PHX is 1.4 and 800k, which is weird since the vacation home is half the ATL cost despite the primaries being similarly priced

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2834967&forum_id=2#27526302)



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Date: March 20th, 2015 4:07 PM
Author: indecent lavender resort

That makes sense if the nearby vacation areas have different property values.



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2834967&forum_id=2#27526333)



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Date: March 20th, 2015 4:17 PM
Author: fighting church

tbf i didn't actually look at that many, I just saw that there were huge differences in the price of vacation houses that made no sense.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2834967&forum_id=2#27526412)



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Date: March 20th, 2015 11:06 PM
Author: underhanded depressive

they explained that the vacation home was treated like a weekend getaway spot. so it makes sense that the primary and secondary residence prices correlate.

maybe that seems like a silly assumption but the whole thing is a silly exercise, more for entertainment value than anything else.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2834967&forum_id=2#27528832)



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Date: March 20th, 2015 3:56 PM
Author: Silver Spectacular Pit Telephone

I knew that when Birmingham, AL came out to $231k that I was FUCKED

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2834967&forum_id=2#27526278)



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Date: March 20th, 2015 3:57 PM
Author: Mind-boggling dull ticket booth clown

gas boomers now

/thread

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2834967&forum_id=2#27526281)



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Date: March 21st, 2015 12:28 AM
Author: Insecure poppy rigpig area



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2834967&forum_id=2#27529170)



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Date: March 25th, 2015 10:58 AM
Author: Topaz stage

You can live in NYC if just WANT it bad enough

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2834967&forum_id=2#27551919)



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Date: March 20th, 2015 10:45 PM
Author: Fuchsia contagious dilemma famous landscape painting

"Our family has two very upscale cars; a sporty BMW 325i sedan and a capacious Lexus RX 330"

lol...

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2834967&forum_id=2#27528725)



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Date: March 25th, 2015 10:56 AM
Author: Topaz stage

UNDERRATED

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2834967&forum_id=2#27551913)



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Date: March 25th, 2015 11:21 AM
Author: Bistre pistol stead



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2834967&forum_id=2#27552038)



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Date: March 24th, 2015 5:42 PM
Author: chartreuse fragrant box office private investor

wait, charleston wv is at 236k? i've driven through there and got the impression i'd live like the sultan of brunei on 75k.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2834967&forum_id=2#27548311)



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Date: March 25th, 2015 5:40 AM
Author: Soul-stirring bat-shit-crazy state

Man, how to waste money. You can live exactly as well for so much less.

25% of your expenses on a vacation home?! Spending every vacation in the same shitbox in Fort Lauderdale has to be one of the most depressing things ever. My parents spend $0 on vacation and have a much better time of it - they rent their house out for $6k/month to cover costs and explore different cities around the world, often staying with friends in nice houses for free.

At that house price, just go to top public school.

Spending $30,000 every single year so your 7 children can go to Sarah Lawrence? Good call.

Of course it's really all about the housing, since that's 75% of the budget (probably not advised by most personal finance gurus).

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2834967&forum_id=2#27551289)



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Date: March 25th, 2015 9:17 AM
Author: bearded black set trump supporter

The people at that income level aren't spending their one two-week vacation every year at a Ft. Lauderdale condo. They will use that as a weekend getaway. To give a NYC example, it will be a house in the hamptons that they use during he summer, a home in VT for skiing every weekend in the winter, or a place in florida where they will spend a lot of the winter. Those people still usually take a nice real vacation or two in addition.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2834967&forum_id=2#27551531)



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Date: March 25th, 2015 10:57 AM
Author: Topaz stage

Sooooo everyone gets that these Forbes/CNN Money articles are always entirely bullshit right?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2834967&forum_id=2#27551917)



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Date: March 25th, 2015 11:15 AM
Author: Bistre pistol stead

Where the hell did they get $26k for private school in NYC? Try $45k for 1 kid. Living well = 3 kids, so $135k.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2834967&forum_id=2#27552016)



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Date: March 25th, 2015 11:15 AM
Author: bearded black set trump supporter

agreed

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2834967&forum_id=2#27552018)



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Date: March 25th, 2015 11:19 AM
Author: Bistre pistol stead

Why isn't SF included in the list?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2834967&forum_id=2#27552032)