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American Millennials are among the world's least skilled

http://fortune.com/2015/03/10/american-millennials-are-among...
Sapphire hospital queen of the night
  03/29/15
guess race
out-of-control racy dopamine
  03/29/15
less about race and more about an attitude of "this tes...
Sapphire hospital queen of the night
  03/29/15
that test is pretty fucking pointless. I tried a few of the ...
fantasy-prone scourge upon the earth
  03/29/15
cr
navy fortuitous meteor
  09/03/15
To be fair, Sure, it's easy to shit on American Millenial...
violent hell psychic
  03/29/15
Under appreciated post
galvanic twisted stead
  09/03/15
nice
learning disabled principal's office
  09/03/15
OSX and iOS devices really do a lot to dumb down people wrt ...
razzle fluffy fat ankles
  03/29/15
lol at os x making ppl dumber than winblows.
dun disgusting site windowlicker
  03/29/15
OSX gui is just as retarded as windows gui. *nix command li...
arousing brunch
  09/03/15
...
Sapphire hospital queen of the night
  03/29/15
holy shit.
Brass home famous landscape painting
  03/29/15
all of these fucking tests' failure to control for race make...
bistre impressive set mad cow disease
  03/29/15
unfortunately, everything in the real world isn't about race
Sapphire hospital queen of the night
  03/29/15
unfortunately, measures of intelligence/skill are
bistre impressive set mad cow disease
  03/29/15
even comparing the 90th percentile the US was still ranked 1...
Cordovan telephone
  03/29/15
titcr. This is a disaster. It's the ios devices that have de...
Laughsome Lilac Lay Half-breed
  09/03/15
We'll just make everything into iOS or android webapps. The...
arousing brunch
  09/03/15
...
bistre impressive set mad cow disease
  03/29/15
LMFAO. take a look at the sameple questions. the first two a...
bistre impressive set mad cow disease
  03/29/15
...
bistre impressive set mad cow disease
  03/29/15
Not very accurate to test only 23 first-world countries and ...
motley fishy area
  03/29/15
these are 3rd grade questions bro... doesn't matter who they...
learning disabled principal's office
  03/29/15
the article said nothing about absolute scores, so yeah it k...
Cordovan telephone
  03/29/15
cr
dun disgusting site windowlicker
  03/29/15
I answered the first 5 on the USA demo. I wouldn't go 3rd g...
Sooty incel
  09/03/15
Would it really make you feel better to know that we are way...
Frum gunner state
  09/03/15
The all-out push to steer every individual with any promise ...
Wonderful Doctorate
  09/03/15
Here's a comment from a GenX bootlicker: I would like to ...
Laughsome Lilac Lay Half-breed
  09/03/15


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Date: March 29th, 2015 6:34 PM
Author: Sapphire hospital queen of the night

http://fortune.com/2015/03/10/american-millennials-are-among-the-worlds-least-skilled/

Surprised? So were the researchers who tested and compared workers in 23 countries.

We hear about the superior tech savvy of people born after 1980 so often that we tend to assume it must be true. But is it?

Researchers at Princeton-based Educational Testing Service (ETS) expected it to be when they administered a test called the Program for the International Assessment of Adult Competencies (PIAAC). Sponsored by the OECD, the test was designed to measure the job skills of adults, aged 16 to 65, in 23 countries.

When the results were analyzed by age group and nationality, ETS got a shock. It turns out, says a new report, that Millennials in the U.S. fall short when it comes to the skills employers want most: literacy (including the ability to follow simple instructions), practical math, and — hold on to your hat — a category called “problem-solving in technology-rich environments.”

Not only do Gen Y Americans lag far behind their overseas peers by every measure, but they even score lower than other age groups of Americans.

Take literacy, for instance. American Millennials scored lower than their counterparts in every country that participated except Spain and Italy. (Japan is No. 1.) In numeracy, meaning the ability to apply basic math to everyday situations, Gen Yers in the U.S. ranked dead last.

Okay, but what about making smart use of technology, where Millennials are said to shine? Again, America scored at the bottom of the heap, in a four-way tie for last place with the Slovak Republic, Ireland, and Poland.

Even the best-educated Millennials stateside couldn’t compete with their counterparts in Japan, Finland, South Korea, Belgium, Sweden, or elsewhere. With a master’s degree, for example, Americans scored higher in numeracy than peers in just three countries: Ireland, Poland, and Spain. Altogether, the top U.S. Gen Yers, in the 90th percentile, “scored lower than their counterparts in 15 countries,” the report notes, “and only scored higher than their peers in Spain.”

“We really thought [U.S.] Millennials would do better than the general adult population, either compared to older coworkers in the U.S. or to the same age group in other countries,” says Madeline Goodman, an ETS researcher who worked on the study. “But they didn’t. In fact, their scores were abysmal.”

What does that mean for U.S. employers hiring people born since 1980? Goodman notes that hiring managers shouldn’t overestimate the practical value of a four-year degree. True, U.S. Millennials with college credentials did score higher on the PIAAC than Americans with only a high school diploma (albeit less well than college grads in most other countries).

“But a degree may not be enough,” Goodman says, to prove that someone is adept with basic English, can do what she calls “workaday math,” or has the ability to use technology in a job. Curious about how the PIAAC measures those skills, or how you’d score yourself? Check out a few sample math questions, or take the whole test ( http://www.oecd.org/site/piaac/educationandskillsonlineassessment.htm )

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2841800&forum_id=2#27577884)



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Date: March 29th, 2015 6:35 PM
Author: out-of-control racy dopamine

guess race

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2841800&forum_id=2#27577889)



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Date: March 29th, 2015 6:37 PM
Author: Sapphire hospital queen of the night

less about race and more about an attitude of "this test is pointless...reminds me of high school"

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2841800&forum_id=2#27577900)



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Date: March 29th, 2015 9:18 PM
Author: fantasy-prone scourge upon the earth

that test is pretty fucking pointless. I tried a few of the sample questions and holy shit, they were mindnumbing. I don't remember those state assessment tests we had to take ever being that bad, even when the material was really low-level.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2841800&forum_id=2#27578975)



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Date: September 3rd, 2015 9:15 AM
Author: navy fortuitous meteor

cr

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2841800&forum_id=2#28679894)



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Date: March 29th, 2015 6:39 PM
Author: violent hell psychic

To be fair,

Sure, it's easy to shit on American Millenials and pretend that they're incompetent--right up until you need someone to issue-spot privilege manifestations and microaggressions. But keep talking shit as they work to make the world a fairer place for your grandchildren, you bigot.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2841800&forum_id=2#27577915)



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Date: September 3rd, 2015 6:14 AM
Author: galvanic twisted stead

Under appreciated post

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2841800&forum_id=2#28679670)



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Date: September 3rd, 2015 9:17 AM
Author: learning disabled principal's office

nice

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2841800&forum_id=2#28679902)



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Date: March 29th, 2015 6:46 PM
Author: razzle fluffy fat ankles

OSX and iOS devices really do a lot to dumb down people wrt technology.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2841800&forum_id=2#27577957)



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Date: March 29th, 2015 9:18 PM
Author: dun disgusting site windowlicker

lol at os x making ppl dumber than winblows.



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2841800&forum_id=2#27578974)



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Date: September 3rd, 2015 8:00 AM
Author: arousing brunch

OSX gui is just as retarded as windows gui. *nix command line > gui faggotry.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2841800&forum_id=2#28679725)



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Date: March 29th, 2015 9:14 PM
Author: Sapphire hospital queen of the night



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2841800&forum_id=2#27578941)



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Date: March 29th, 2015 9:14 PM
Author: Brass home famous landscape painting

holy shit.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2841800&forum_id=2#27578948)



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Date: March 29th, 2015 9:16 PM
Author: bistre impressive set mad cow disease

all of these fucking tests' failure to control for race makes them prima facie pointless.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2841800&forum_id=2#27578957)



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Date: March 29th, 2015 9:18 PM
Author: Sapphire hospital queen of the night

unfortunately, everything in the real world isn't about race

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2841800&forum_id=2#27578972)



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Date: March 29th, 2015 9:19 PM
Author: bistre impressive set mad cow disease

unfortunately, measures of intelligence/skill are

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2841800&forum_id=2#27578983)



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Date: March 29th, 2015 9:26 PM
Author: Cordovan telephone

even comparing the 90th percentile the US was still ranked 15/22

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2841800&forum_id=2#27579020)



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Date: September 3rd, 2015 8:04 AM
Author: Laughsome Lilac Lay Half-breed

titcr. This is a disaster. It's the ios devices that have destroyed the tech savviness of our generation. Apple is dominant in the US but not nearly as influential elsewhere. Thankfully, our immigration from east Asia is rapidly growing.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2841800&forum_id=2#28679729)



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Date: September 3rd, 2015 8:07 AM
Author: arousing brunch

We'll just make everything into iOS or android webapps. There is no reason that work needs to be done in excel or word.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2841800&forum_id=2#28679730)



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Date: March 29th, 2015 9:17 PM
Author: bistre impressive set mad cow disease



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2841800&forum_id=2#27578966)



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Date: March 29th, 2015 9:19 PM
Author: bistre impressive set mad cow disease

LMFAO. take a look at the sameple questions. the first two are level 3/5 difficulty.

http://nces.ed.gov/surveys/piaac/sample_num.asp

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2841800&forum_id=2#27578980)



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Date: March 29th, 2015 9:55 PM
Author: bistre impressive set mad cow disease



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2841800&forum_id=2#27579195)



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Date: March 29th, 2015 9:20 PM
Author: motley fishy area

Not very accurate to test only 23 first-world countries and then say US is worst in the world.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2841800&forum_id=2#27578993)



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Date: March 29th, 2015 9:27 PM
Author: learning disabled principal's office

these are 3rd grade questions bro... doesn't matter who they excluded

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2841800&forum_id=2#27579029)



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Date: March 29th, 2015 9:31 PM
Author: Cordovan telephone

the article said nothing about absolute scores, so yeah it kinda does

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2841800&forum_id=2#27579043)



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Date: March 29th, 2015 9:32 PM
Author: dun disgusting site windowlicker

cr

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2841800&forum_id=2#27579048)



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Date: September 3rd, 2015 9:55 AM
Author: Sooty incel

I answered the first 5 on the USA demo. I wouldn't go 3rd grade, but definitely on a middle school lvl.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2841800&forum_id=2#28680071)



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Date: September 3rd, 2015 7:49 AM
Author: Frum gunner state

Would it really make you feel better to know that we are way ahead of Angola?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2841800&forum_id=2#28679715)



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Date: September 3rd, 2015 9:20 AM
Author: Wonderful Doctorate

The all-out push to steer every individual with any promise whatsoever towards a 4-year college with the concomitant drastic decline in the quality of higher education have been a disaster for America.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2841800&forum_id=2#28679912)



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Date: September 3rd, 2015 10:00 AM
Author: Laughsome Lilac Lay Half-breed

Here's a comment from a GenX bootlicker:

I would like to say that this comes as a surprise to me, but after having spent most of the last twelve or so years working on college campuses, I can only say that this isn't news to those of us who work in higher education. You have a whole generation of people who, like someone else said, think Wikipedia is reliable research source; who think they can write research papers with the same syntax they use in text messages (OMG); who think Abraham Lincoln actually fought vampires, and so on.

This is caused by a variety of things. Sure, the "everyone-gets-a-medal" mentality is a contributor; people like to say it's because the system has been dummied down to accommodate the "less gifted." At the same time, though, there are all the well-to-do people out there who have their kids in the best school systems available to them who raise hell with their kids' instructors when their children come home with subpar grades. I worked at a community college in one of the most affluent communities in the country, and I heard all types of stories about high school teachers and even college instructors who were run out on a rail because they were "too tough."

Then there are the "helicopter parents" who can't/wont/don't give their children the opportunity to mess up and LEARN from their errors. I literally watched parents start to fill out college admissions applications or registration forms for their 18-, 19, or even 20+year-old kids. I would stop them and ask if there was something preventing the child from completing the documents themselves. Some of the parents realized how silly they looked, but not all of them did.

I'm speaking to you as someone born in the mid-1970s. I'm not a baby boomer, and I'm definitely not a millennial. For many years, I've heard people say that these millenials are the smartest group of Americans to come along in quite awhile. I've been very vocal in my disagreement. I think they're probably the dumbest batch ever. They have the ability to manipulate technology that wasn't available when you or I were younger, but if you take that technology away from them, many of them couldn't spell "cat" if you spotted them the "C" and the "T."

So...are we REALLY surprised?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2841800&forum_id=2#28680091)