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Comparing Google vs Amazon Inhouse
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Date: April 1st, 2015 11:31 PM Author: Hideous center Comparing offers from both. I understand they both pay at around the top of the market (EDIT: So I am going with one of the two, I have an another offer but it is off the table). So it comes down to the intangibles. Any insights on the real office environment? All I got was how awesome everyone thought their particular shop was. What kind of hours to expect from either? And yes, the comp offers are quite good. I understand Amazon is a brutal environment to work in. Advancement seems to be the typical progression as most inhouse places. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2844575&forum_id=2#27599639) |
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Date: April 1st, 2015 11:32 PM Author: Transparent range personal credit line considering your moniker, i would suggest keeping your political opinions to yourself at those shitholes (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2844575&forum_id=2#27599647) |
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Date: April 1st, 2015 11:33 PM Author: Hideous center completely random I assure you. I just googled "UKIP". LOL! (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2844575&forum_id=2#27599660) |
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Date: April 1st, 2015 11:33 PM Author: Transparent range personal credit line really? shit i was gonna root for you but now w/e.
what sort of experience/bg do you have? v5 trannie for 5+ years? |
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Date: April 1st, 2015 11:34 PM Author: Hideous center Biglaw -> Inhouse -> New Inhouse (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2844575&forum_id=2#27599683) |
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Date: April 1st, 2015 11:36 PM Author: Transparent range personal credit line cool cool
tips for a 5+ year biglaw corp bro who sometimes feels inadequate? |
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Date: April 1st, 2015 11:38 PM Author: Hideous center Get out. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2844575&forum_id=2#27599719) |
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Date: April 1st, 2015 11:39 PM Author: Metal Halford Parlour wanna toss some of us some work? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2844575&forum_id=2#27599727) |
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Date: April 1st, 2015 11:46 PM Author: Peach exhilarant pozpig Amazon is very competitive and higher stress than most in-house jobs. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2844575&forum_id=2#27599790) |
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Date: April 1st, 2015 11:50 PM Author: Puce provocative locale yep (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2844575&forum_id=2#27599836) |
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Date: April 1st, 2015 11:55 PM Author: Hideous center Hours? Office environment at both? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2844575&forum_id=2#27599885) |
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Date: April 2nd, 2015 12:03 AM Author: Peach exhilarant pozpig I don't know much about Google. The impression I get from Amazon (which could be outdated, but probably isn't) is that they are generally understaffed and in a perpetual triage mode.
With regard to compensation, my understanding is that their compensation is good when you take stock into account, and if you stick around long enough for stock to vest, but not amazing otherwise. |
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Date: April 2nd, 2015 12:07 AM Author: Hideous center On the compensation front yeh, you are right. The stock also vest over a longer period of time.
Any insights on the hours? |
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Date: June 27th, 2015 10:21 PM Author: gold hell half-breed Numbers? Range? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2844575&forum_id=2#28214089) |
Date: April 1st, 2015 11:39 PM Author: impertinent gaping I would think Amazon would be so vendor oriented which sucks (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2844575&forum_id=2#27599724) |
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Date: April 1st, 2015 11:40 PM Author: Metal Halford Parlour fwiw i have heard comp at G is better than A. G has better qol perks. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2844575&forum_id=2#27599731) |
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Date: April 1st, 2015 11:48 PM Author: chrome swashbuckling rehab volcanic crater i heard the exact opposite. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2844575&forum_id=2#27599809) |
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Date: April 1st, 2015 11:51 PM Author: Metal Halford Parlour i have multiple friends at both at various levels. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2844575&forum_id=2#27599841) |
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Date: April 1st, 2015 11:52 PM Author: chrome swashbuckling rehab volcanic crater fascinating. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2844575&forum_id=2#27599852) |
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Date: April 1st, 2015 11:58 PM Author: glittery copper lettuce so you have like minimum 3 friends at different levels in amazon and another 3 at google? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2844575&forum_id=2#27599911) |
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Date: April 2nd, 2015 12:01 AM Author: chrome swashbuckling rehab volcanic crater he's a dumbass liar - that's the only obvious thing here. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2844575&forum_id=2#27599931) |
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Date: April 1st, 2015 11:56 PM Author: Hideous center Please quantify the non-compensation aspects. Hard to plow through the corporate propaganda. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2844575&forum_id=2#27599903) |
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Date: April 1st, 2015 11:58 PM Author: Metal Halford Parlour assuming A is in seattle right? where is the G job? that might have an impact. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2844575&forum_id=2#27599915) |
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Date: April 1st, 2015 11:59 PM Author: Hideous center Both are WC (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2844575&forum_id=2#27599918) |
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Date: April 2nd, 2015 12:00 AM Author: Metal Halford Parlour COL in seattle is less than bay area, but its not as nice. are you WC? from Seattle? I feel like anyone can move to the bay area and probably be OK but seattle is another animal.
although what the fuck do i know I'm living it up in MFH |
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Date: April 2nd, 2015 12:03 AM Author: Hideous center All of the compensation/COL factors are being weighted. Not from the WC. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2844575&forum_id=2#27599944) |
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Date: June 24th, 2015 10:22 AM Author: Passionate Lake Athletic Conference Church lol at bay area being nicer than seattle. what are the problems you see with the latter (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2844575&forum_id=2#28190364) |
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Date: April 1st, 2015 11:51 PM Author: Puce provocative locale if you have offers in hand from both you should know exactly how much they pay.
I would probably pick google. |
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Date: April 1st, 2015 11:55 PM Author: Hideous center Re-read dooder with my edit. My point was that I don't think anyone was going to pay more and this was about as good as it would get. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2844575&forum_id=2#27599890) |
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Date: April 1st, 2015 11:56 PM Author: Metal Halford Parlour Google giving u mid 200's after bonus plus stock that after 4 years can be like 400k+ on top?
Amazon probs topping high 2s right? |
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Date: April 1st, 2015 11:58 PM Author: Hideous center (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2844575&forum_id=2#27599913) |
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Date: April 2nd, 2015 12:02 AM Author: Puce provocative locale amazon pays you $300K with all the stock after a few years too.
Google pays better and seattle fucking sucks.
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Date: April 2nd, 2015 12:06 AM Author: Hideous center And the hours sir? From an office culture perspective, the folks at Google seemed to be more chill, so there pitch that they had a good office environment rang more true. That said though, the folks at Google are not slackers and they do seem to work hard.
At Amazon they pitched the positive work environment, but I also got the feeling it was very competitive. They also kept emphasizing how frugal the company is, which obviously has practical implications in the workplace. But what I cannot get a clean read on is the hours. |
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Date: April 2nd, 2015 12:08 AM Author: Metal Halford Parlour hours are not very different from biglawl at A.
Can you specify the kind of work? general corp? IP? |
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Date: April 2nd, 2015 12:08 AM Author: Hideous center Corp, which would actually translate to quite a few things at either.
Geez. A involves biglaw hours? And given the staffing issues (which were observable), I am guessing biglaw unpredictability. Google seemed to have a nice cadre of attorneys. |
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Date: April 2nd, 2015 12:11 AM Author: Metal Halford Parlour From a tech perspective this is like the difference between going to Harvard (Google) or MIT (Amazon).
Google really is the most prestigious, but Amazon is a bit more nich-ey and actually sells shit. Do you have any preference in terms of the types of technology you would be tying your life to?
Honestly if it were me, I would pick Google but I'm a nerd and a coder. |
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Date: April 2nd, 2015 12:12 AM Author: Hideous center Not really. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2844575&forum_id=2#27600009) |
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Date: April 2nd, 2015 12:17 AM Author: Metal Halford Parlour also if you go to Google, they are in tight with the NSA and they definitely have the table that links all XO accounts to email addresses.
apparently that's the most important thing ever if you have been reading the board for the past 24 hours. |
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Date: April 2nd, 2015 12:20 AM Author: Hideous center Not worried.
What's interesting is that person I spoke to on the screening at A indicated that he managed his work/life well. I am seeing now it was all flame. |
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Date: April 2nd, 2015 12:21 AM Author: Metal Halford Parlour the people I know who have LEFT A have left because of the work environment. the people I know who have left G have left because they have so much fucking money they feel bad and want to do something "better" with their lives. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2844575&forum_id=2#27600074) |
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Date: April 2nd, 2015 12:23 AM Author: Hideous center "Competitive" plus biglaw hours. Yeh, I left biglaw for a reason. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2844575&forum_id=2#27600088) |
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Date: April 2nd, 2015 12:22 AM Author: Brilliant Histrionic Haunted Graveyard Location google makes software and amazon sells OTHER PEOPLE"S shit (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2844575&forum_id=2#27600079) |
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Date: April 2nd, 2015 12:12 AM Author: fishy fat ankles i've heard G has a ridiculously high turnover rate for inhouse (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2844575&forum_id=2#27600013) |
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Date: April 2nd, 2015 12:19 AM Author: brass know-it-all resort from my dealings with the company, Amazon seems much more corporate and has what feels like a cutthroat environment. the people were definitely more corporate, less startupty/tech personalities.
people at google are cultish. they think "googlers" are an aryan tech race. it's bizarre. the perks are unreal on a day to day basis. laundry done, all your meals, transportation from san fran to mv, etc. the mountain view office is pretty amazing but all those perks are there because they want you to work as much as possible. you'll also get fat working at google with all the free food. they have the "google 15" because there is so much good shit to eat. much more startupy but at that size, LOL, it's corporate as fuck. |
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Date: April 2nd, 2015 12:20 AM Author: Hideous center The perks at Google are literally unbelievable. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2844575&forum_id=2#27600070) |
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Date: April 2nd, 2015 12:23 AM Author: brass know-it-all resort meh, after a month or so it's not that special. every legit tech company in SV has food and perks. when you come from wherever you're coming, i'm assuming biglaw, it's probably unbelievable. you'd trade a normal work life balance for free meals and laundry. Are you really going to bring your dirty clothes to the office? Are you really going to play volleyball? the free food is def nice but you'll get fat. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2844575&forum_id=2#27600089) |
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Date: April 2nd, 2015 12:26 AM Author: Hideous center Apple makes their employees buy their food. And to answer your questions:
Yes. No. I have a high metabolism. |
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Date: April 2nd, 2015 12:28 AM Author: brass know-it-all resort Google will be awesome. You'll 100% love it. I have no doubt, especially if you're coming from biglaw.
Amazon seems very corporate.
I would pick google over amazon without hesitating. |
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Date: April 2nd, 2015 12:31 AM Author: Hideous center I have no problem with a more corporate environment. I do have a problem with a biglaw (culture and hours) environment. I left that shit for a reason. But I don't mind Seattle and it is a bit less expensive, so A was legitimately in the running. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2844575&forum_id=2#27600154) |
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Date: April 2nd, 2015 12:25 AM Author: fishy fat ankles i would guess that the difference between A and G is much less than the difference between Seattle and SF/SV. you really want to live in a cold, rainy, second-tier city? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2844575&forum_id=2#27600106) |
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Date: April 2nd, 2015 12:49 AM Author: sick voyeur (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2844575&forum_id=2#27600295) |
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Date: April 2nd, 2015 1:33 AM Author: Coral University Gay Wizard Google and its not even a question. I'm corp in house at another tech co in the bay area and am opposite Amazon frequently. They seem overworked, insufferable, and are forced to take hard-line positions by crazy management. I know a few happy in-house attorneys at Google. They work hard every once and a while, but not all the time. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2844575&forum_id=2#27600576) |
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Date: April 2nd, 2015 10:18 PM Author: Garnet adventurous nursing home This has been my experience as well. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2844575&forum_id=2#27607072) |
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Date: April 2nd, 2015 11:30 PM Author: sienna bawdyhouse windowlicker Mine too. They seem to have a legal department culture that grew out of beating up shitty little vendors who sell on their site and they bring that relatively dumb mentality to other businesses where it doesn't work and it makes them seem really out of touch. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2844575&forum_id=2#27607795) |
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Date: April 2nd, 2015 1:38 AM Author: crawly juggernaut karate I know absolutely nothing about either company, but I would pick Google unless you like Seattle. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2844575&forum_id=2#27600599) |
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Date: April 2nd, 2015 1:44 AM Author: slap-happy ebony love of her life both are wonderful companies. they compensate heavily with stock, so part of your assessment should include which company has better prospects. don't take the dollar figures they give you now at face value.
btw, congrats. |
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Date: April 2nd, 2015 11:38 PM Author: sienna bawdyhouse windowlicker Google and it's not close. The SF/SV v Seattle issue clinches it, but not bc Seattle is rainy wah wah SoCal bitchmades represent. Your network at google will be infinitely more valuable bc the people who leave will go a million other places that would be worthwhile, partly bc of market density but also bc the software training scales to a lot of different stuff, "software is eating the world" etc. Amazon would have great exit options and will place plenty of people into other cool shit, but not anything like the reach of the google network particularly when you consider the pedigree of people in the business at google v amazon. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2844575&forum_id=2#27607899) |
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Date: June 24th, 2015 11:02 AM Author: Trip pit national security agency enjoy your $1.5m 3 BR teardown fgts (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2844575&forum_id=2#28190565) |
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Date: June 23rd, 2015 12:21 AM Author: Transparent range personal credit line howd it go (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2844575&forum_id=2#28182048) |
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Date: June 24th, 2015 10:07 AM Author: silver stimulating useless brakes sanctuary op decided to continue trolling online forums from his parents basement (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2844575&forum_id=2#28190315) |
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Date: June 24th, 2015 10:30 AM Author: wonderful mother den lol i imagine its literally impossible to get offers at either places let alone both (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2844575&forum_id=2#28190393) |
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Date: June 27th, 2015 10:32 PM Author: gold hell half-breed I know a not-especially-impressive guy at Amazon fwiw. Google is more impressive. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2844575&forum_id=2#28214136) |
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Date: June 27th, 2015 10:44 PM Author: Opaque Well-lubricated Base Liquid Oxygen any openings for a non-IP litigator at google? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2844575&forum_id=2#28214206) |
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Date: June 27th, 2015 10:47 PM Author: Odious Tank Don't you think it's likely that a person who could score an in house job at Google will be more likely to be able to get one at Amazon
Idiot |