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  04/13/15
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  04/14/15
Much lower than that, no?
Pale stirring stage nibblets
  04/13/15
At V50s, yes
Insanely creepy passionate toilet seat
  04/13/15
THIS IS VERY ENCOURAGING NEWS
Exhilarant self-centered abode
  04/13/15
are these stats actually published anywhere?
Poppy Nofapping Orchestra Pit
  04/14/15
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Poppy Nofapping Orchestra Pit
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more like 1 in 20
Lake Step-uncle's House Dog Poop
  04/14/15
could be even worse, if we're talking about making EQUITY pa...
trip brunch love of her life
  04/14/15
much lower than that, and also lots of factors that go into ...
Hot athletic conference
  04/14/15
AT LEAST THERE ARE ALOT OF EXIT OPTIONS
Poppy Nofapping Orchestra Pit
  04/14/15
An arguably bigger problem is that only complete psychos wou...
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  04/14/15
This is credited, but does underscore that the 1 in 20 odds ...
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  04/14/15
Of course. On the one hand someone that's good but doesn't ...
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  04/15/15
i remember when i was a 2L, i was so naive -- as was XO in g...
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  04/14/15
Why would a 1:1 ratio not matter? It's way better for your c...
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i mean that i thought it was show up and bill for 7 yrs and ...
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  04/14/15
Oh yeah, there were a lot of people in LS who seemed to thin...
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does the forthcoming mass retirement of boomers mean those n...
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  04/14/15
Making equity partner is kind of pointless when you think ab...
Slap-happy house persian
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Every practice area at a big firm is limited to a big firm. ...
carmine whorehouse useless brakes
  04/14/15
They likely could have gone the higher end PI/med mal route ...
Slap-happy house persian
  04/15/15
Not likely. Most V30 partners are prestige whores that thum...
carmine whorehouse useless brakes
  04/15/15
Why do they look down on that kind of law practice? A top PI...
Slap-happy house persian
  04/15/15
oh OBVIOUSLY i MEAN, OF COURSE you can run a multinationa...
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  04/15/15
You dumb smelly ape, read what I wrote. They could have ...
Slap-happy house persian
  04/15/15
Do Biglaw firms try to place, tie in, flatter and network th...
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Of course.
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not NEARLY as much as they should imo
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One firm I know of has "alumni" events for people ...
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  04/14/15
would people shun or go to such an event?
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that's so they can take a passive role in contacting former ...
Hot athletic conference
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Interesting point that I never thought of. Why does MBB do t...
underhanded rigor
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good placements and good partings = future buyers of BCG/McK...
Duck-like institution
  04/14/15
No, big firm partners are too shitty as managers to realize ...
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  04/14/15
Top, especially the up or out firms, do a good job of this. ...
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Law Degree for 300k? I like my odds
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Date: April 13th, 2015 9:54 PM
Author: Insanely creepy passionate toilet seat



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Date: April 14th, 2015 9:07 AM
Author: Stimulating crusty reading party property

(Kirkland troll

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Date: April 14th, 2015 4:18 PM
Author: Abnormal Theatre Legend



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Date: April 13th, 2015 9:54 PM
Author: Pale stirring stage nibblets

Much lower than that, no?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2854688&forum_id=2#27685312)



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Date: April 13th, 2015 9:58 PM
Author: Insanely creepy passionate toilet seat

At V50s, yes

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2854688&forum_id=2#27685351)



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Date: April 13th, 2015 9:55 PM
Author: Exhilarant self-centered abode

THIS IS VERY ENCOURAGING NEWS

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2854688&forum_id=2#27685314)



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Date: April 14th, 2015 9:01 AM
Author: Poppy Nofapping Orchestra Pit

are these stats actually published anywhere?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2854688&forum_id=2#27688021)



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Date: April 14th, 2015 4:13 PM
Author: Poppy Nofapping Orchestra Pit



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2854688&forum_id=2#27690538)



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Date: April 14th, 2015 9:06 AM
Author: Lake Step-uncle's House Dog Poop

more like 1 in 20

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2854688&forum_id=2#27688036)



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Date: April 14th, 2015 4:10 PM
Author: trip brunch love of her life

could be even worse, if we're talking about making EQUITY partner at the v50 or v100 firm at which you started your career. just look at the new partner announcements for firms w no non-equity partners and compare the # of homegrown partners with the incoming class sizes. it's gonna be dismal.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2854688&forum_id=2#27690521)



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Date: April 14th, 2015 9:10 AM
Author: Hot athletic conference

much lower than that, and also lots of factors that go into the partnership decision are out of an associate's control

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2854688&forum_id=2#27688045)



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Date: April 14th, 2015 9:13 AM
Author: Poppy Nofapping Orchestra Pit

AT LEAST THERE ARE ALOT OF EXIT OPTIONS

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2854688&forum_id=2#27688052)



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Date: April 14th, 2015 4:09 PM
Author: carmine whorehouse useless brakes

An arguably bigger problem is that only complete psychos would put up with the NYC V30 bullshit long enough to make partner.

Assuming you aren't a complete psycho, you can lateral to a v100nor AMlaw 250 in a regional market where the overall QOL is much better (relatively) and making 'partner' is realistic, but it's just a title and you probably won't even make $200k as junior partner. Years and years of more drudgery to make equity partner, and those odds are low even if you want it

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2854688&forum_id=2#27690505)



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Date: April 14th, 2015 4:14 PM
Author: gay glittery principal's office

This is credited, but does underscore that the 1 in 20 odds at Latham or wherever aren't really the end of the story.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2854688&forum_id=2#27690540)



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Date: April 15th, 2015 1:14 AM
Author: carmine whorehouse useless brakes

Of course. On the one hand someone that's good but doesn't make partner at Cravath isnt forced into be being a librarian at a law school. On the other hand, making 'partner' at a good but not elite firm doesn't mean you've maed it whatsoever.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2854688&forum_id=2#27694237)



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Date: April 14th, 2015 4:12 PM
Author: trip brunch love of her life

i remember when i was a 2L, i was so naive -- as was XO in general -- that i thought shit like a 1:1 ratio actually meant something. xo2015 is surely more advanced than early xo in a lot of ways.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2854688&forum_id=2#27690532)



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Date: April 14th, 2015 4:55 PM
Author: Internet-worthy trump supporter location

Why would a 1:1 ratio not matter? It's way better for your chances than being levered like Cravath.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2854688&forum_id=2#27690788)



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Date: April 14th, 2015 5:01 PM
Author: trip brunch love of her life

i mean that i thought it was show up and bill for 7 yrs and you'll maek it

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2854688&forum_id=2#27690834)



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Date: April 14th, 2015 11:34 PM
Author: Internet-worthy trump supporter location

Oh yeah, there were a lot of people in LS who seemed to think that. I was fortunate enough to have met with a lot of Biglaw people when I was a teenager, all of whom told me I'd never make partner without business of my own.

So it's not really that the notion of "make the firm a lot of money" is wrong. As a senior associate you might be directly responsible for $~1M in revenue. It's just that you've underestimated the revenue requirement--you might need to be directly responsible for, say, $3M to maek it, and the only way to get there is with a $2M book of business.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2854688&forum_id=2#27693607)



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Date: April 14th, 2015 4:13 PM
Author: mind-boggling church building deer antler

does the forthcoming mass retirement of boomers mean those numbers are about to change for the better?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2854688&forum_id=2#27690537)



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Date: April 14th, 2015 4:13 PM
Author: Slap-happy house persian

Making equity partner is kind of pointless when you think about it. If you're good enough to make equity partner at a large firm, you're probably good enough (or were good enough at some point) to start your own firm and clear 7 figures a year.

Obviously, certain practice areas are limited to big firms, but you get my point.



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2854688&forum_id=2#27690539)



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Date: April 14th, 2015 10:59 PM
Author: carmine whorehouse useless brakes

Every practice area at a big firm is limited to a big firm. On manpower alone, you can't do big firm corporate or lit solo. Not to mention the specialists needed for big firm work, or the big firm rep to get those clients even if you somehow could do it solo or with a few random associates

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2854688&forum_id=2#27693344)



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Date: April 15th, 2015 12:05 AM
Author: Slap-happy house persian

They likely could have gone the higher end PI/med mal route and still made millions.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2854688&forum_id=2#27693857)



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Date: April 15th, 2015 1:09 AM
Author: carmine whorehouse useless brakes

Not likely. Most V30 partners are prestige whores that thumb their noses at that shit, regardless of how profitable it may ultimately be. Most V30 m&a guys wouldn't stand a chance. V30 litigators may be even worse as they really thumb their nose at plaintiffs work and would be so red in the face from shame if they fell to that that wouldn't be successful

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2854688&forum_id=2#27694221)



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Date: April 15th, 2015 1:16 AM
Author: Slap-happy house persian

Why do they look down on that kind of law practice? A top PI/Med Mal lawyer can clear high 7 figures a year (or more)....if that's not prestigious, I don't know what is.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2854688&forum_id=2#27694241)



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Date: April 15th, 2015 4:51 AM
Author: Henna Gas Station Alpha

oh OBVIOUSLY

i MEAN, OF COURSE you can run a multinational merger out of a solo "shop" - its like better call saul and shit

you are fucking done here.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2854688&forum_id=2#27694603)



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Date: April 15th, 2015 4:53 AM
Author: Slap-happy house persian

You dumb smelly ape, read what I wrote.

They could have just picked some other practice area that can be done solo and still made millions. No one NEEDS to do M&A.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2854688&forum_id=2#27694604)



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Date: April 14th, 2015 4:19 PM
Author: Duck-like institution

Do Biglaw firms try to place, tie in, flatter and network those they kick out and those who decide to leave in the same way that BCG and McK do in consulting?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2854688&forum_id=2#27690583)



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Date: April 14th, 2015 4:22 PM
Author: gay glittery principal's office

Of course.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2854688&forum_id=2#27690605)



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Date: April 14th, 2015 4:22 PM
Author: Hot athletic conference

not NEARLY as much as they should imo

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2854688&forum_id=2#27690610)



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Date: April 14th, 2015 4:34 PM
Author: gay glittery principal's office

One firm I know of has "alumni" events for people they canned.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2854688&forum_id=2#27690663)



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Date: April 14th, 2015 4:39 PM
Author: Duck-like institution

would people shun or go to such an event?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2854688&forum_id=2#27690681)



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Date: April 14th, 2015 4:40 PM
Author: Hot athletic conference

that's so they can take a passive role in contacting former associates who now have jobs in house.

that's very different from grooming associates to go in house and forging significant relationships from the start

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2854688&forum_id=2#27690688)



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Date: April 14th, 2015 4:41 PM
Author: underhanded rigor

Interesting point that I never thought of. Why does MBB do this? Never really thought about it, but have always noticed it.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2854688&forum_id=2#27690699)



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Date: April 14th, 2015 4:44 PM
Author: Duck-like institution

good placements and good partings = future buyers of BCG/McK services

moreover, the network becomes valuable to the ex-consultant in his further career

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2854688&forum_id=2#27690716)



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Date: April 14th, 2015 11:02 PM
Author: carmine whorehouse useless brakes

No, big firm partners are too shitty as managers to realize this would help them long term, and they're too beat down by biglaw to do it out of decency.

They wait until someone actually jumps Inhouse and then they start kissing ass

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2854688&forum_id=2#27693352)



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Date: April 15th, 2015 1:17 AM
Author: Sinister office personal credit line

Top, especially the up or out firms, do a good job of this. Everyone else does not seem to (at least based on my experience with those in house who trash their former firm and would not send a penny of business).

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2854688&forum_id=2#27694243)



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Date: April 14th, 2015 4:21 PM
Author: diverse roast beef

so what's the EV on that? 1/6 * $20 mm? 30 mm?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2854688&forum_id=2#27690598)



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Date: April 14th, 2015 4:40 PM
Author: carnelian garrison psychic

lol

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2854688&forum_id=2#27690689)



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Date: April 15th, 2015 1:10 AM
Author: slimy yellow electric furnace



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Date: April 15th, 2015 1:57 AM
Author: Arrogant codepig



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Date: April 15th, 2015 1:57 AM
Author: Arrogant codepig

Law Degree for 300k? I like my odds

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2854688&forum_id=2#27694425)



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Date: April 15th, 2015 2:01 AM
Author: slimy yellow electric furnace



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Date: April 15th, 2015 1:19 AM
Author: frum gay wizard church

OH WHAT A PRIZE WINNER

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2854688&forum_id=2#27694248)