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Pensive tp taking on SV tech culture menace once again (link)
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Date: May 4th, 2015 3:26 PM Author: Misunderstood snowy spot http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=9473722 (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2871573&forum_id=2#27820309) |
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Date: May 21st, 2015 1:25 AM Author: Carnelian Multi-colored Public Bath Digit Ratio "It's beginning to dawn on me that it is a form of trolling." (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2871573&forum_id=2#27933544) |
Date: May 4th, 2015 3:28 PM Author: Territorial University http://www.quora.com/Why-is-Michael-O-Church-notorious-at-Google
Michael O. Church, T9 troll 187 upvotes by Piaw Na (Worked at Google), Quora User, Arjun Prakash, (more) Google is a large company. It may be one of the best companies at that size, but it still has many of the big-company issues. I was there for 6 months and in that time, I:
tried to save a failing product. I had widespread engineering support but I did not convince upper management of my position. If I had understood large companies better, I would have known this mission to be impossible, because no one is taken seriously at 3 months old. If that person's obviously right, it just makes the people in power angrier. exposed abuses of process in a way that embarrassed at least one (highly guilty) powerful manager personally.
I am not ashamed of any of this, but if I were to do it over again, I would have done things very differently. Google is, all taken, a pretty great company. I just didn't understand how large human organizations work, at that time, and I really bought into Google's self-perception of being different and open to new ideas, regardless of rank.
I was embarrassingly wrong.
Career advice for Nooglers: Google is doing some fascinating work and it's a great place to be if you get on to the right project. But learn from the mistakes of your predecessors, keep your head down, learn how to play the game before attempting to play it, and wait a few years before you attempt anything that might have a real impact. Also, "eng-misc" rhymes with "just don't".
Written 2 Jan, 2013. 20,607 views. Downvote Comments4+ |
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Date: May 4th, 2015 3:29 PM Author: Pungent salmon home party of the first part Such a fucking self-important faggot. Still bitter (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2871573&forum_id=2#27820333) |
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Date: May 4th, 2015 3:39 PM Author: Territorial University For newbies http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=313634&forum_id=2
Also: anyone have the link to where pensive went apeshit over another poster's being a Rhodes Scholar? |
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Date: May 4th, 2015 3:50 PM Author: Misunderstood snowy spot The annotated notes are impressive and also unnerving. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2871573&forum_id=2#27820520) |
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Date: May 4th, 2015 4:57 PM Author: Excitant orchestra pit genital piercing Holy fuck that predates me by a couple years and I never saw the thread until now.
The bort has been struggling with insane psycho spammers since creation. |
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Date: May 4th, 2015 5:04 PM Author: Misunderstood snowy spot I didn't even notice that the thread was a DECADE old until now. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2871573&forum_id=2#27821010) |
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Date: May 4th, 2015 10:13 PM Author: Thirsty pit turdskin http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Suspected_Wikipedia_sockpuppets_of_Mike_Church (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2871573&forum_id=2#27823328) |
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Date: May 5th, 2015 9:53 AM Author: Excitant orchestra pit genital piercing Lol at his Wikipedia monikers.
Media Kid's Strom Thurmond surprise is a classic, seems like something that korea would have. |
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Date: May 5th, 2015 10:14 AM Author: Misunderstood snowy spot Lol (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2871573&forum_id=2#27826225) |
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Date: September 13th, 2015 5:11 PM Author: galvanic mentally impaired property hairy legs (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2871573&forum_id=2#28747840) |
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Date: May 18th, 2015 10:36 PM Author: Beady-eyed abusive area Most of those accounts don't actually exist. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2871573&forum_id=2#27918080) |
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Date: May 4th, 2015 10:16 PM Author: self-absorbed step-uncle's house he was also convinced that the women of carleton colluded against him to withhold sex and make his life miserable. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2871573&forum_id=2#27823350) |
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Date: May 19th, 2015 1:46 AM Author: hateful mildly autistic stage roast beef didn't UAT (or maybe another carleton poster?) post a bunch of his lulzy carleton bbs messages? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2871573&forum_id=2#27919711) |
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Date: May 5th, 2015 10:02 AM Author: ruby stage friendly grandma most epic pwnage in board history. thanks. i forgot all about it. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2871573&forum_id=2#27826174) |
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Date: May 18th, 2015 10:35 PM Author: Beady-eyed abusive area Car Ramrod (then, Old Tom Joad) also posted as "can't edit me away!" He was a creep who hit on women on the board, and most of the things he claimed to have "backed up" about Pensive were fraudulent or linked to material that he, himself, created.
He was a class of 1999 (or 2000) Carleton poster who, for some reason, had something against Pensive due to drama on some internal message board. Car Ramrod's identity was figured out and he was known for being a creep and a pathological liar. |
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Date: May 19th, 2015 1:38 AM Author: green knife Hi, Pensive! (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2871573&forum_id=2#27919680) |
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Date: September 13th, 2015 9:02 PM Author: Amber histrionic gay wizard cuck (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2871573&forum_id=2#28749250) |
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Date: September 14th, 2015 12:06 PM Author: Amber histrionic gay wizard cuck Holy shit you are unhinged. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2871573&forum_id=2#28752014) |
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Date: May 4th, 2015 10:19 PM Author: passionate sinister persian parlour JFC, this is legendary.
he basically treated IRL Google like it was xoxo. |
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Date: May 4th, 2015 10:22 PM Author: self-absorbed step-uncle's house cr. need to read through the whole link.
"While at Google, Michael spent more time on "misc," the internal listserv known for time-wasting and frivolous debate, than almost anyone else, writing about unproductive topics. He made many enemies and his writing alone ruined his ability to be taken seriously or have another manager want him on his or her team. It was similar to his use of Hacker News, excessive blogging, and now Quora. He simply spent more time involved in politics and internal affairs than working. Again, if you work at Google or know a Googler, a quick search for his name will reveal the entire timestampped history or his writing." |
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Date: May 4th, 2015 10:32 PM Author: passionate sinister persian parlour JFC. this needs more attention on xoxo.
this is fucking EPIC.
it's not an easy feat to make a reputation for yourself in a company the size of Google, much less the entirely of SV. |
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Date: May 4th, 2015 11:28 PM Author: Misunderstood snowy spot Easily a Top 5 Impact Poaster. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2871573&forum_id=2#27824127) |
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Date: September 13th, 2015 7:37 PM Author: Amber histrionic gay wizard cuck (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2871573&forum_id=2#28748665) |
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Date: May 19th, 2015 3:10 AM Author: Haunting Temple Private Investor PENSIVE is a fuckin GOD. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2871573&forum_id=2#27919867) |
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Date: May 4th, 2015 3:29 PM Author: fantasy-prone insane shrine dog poop 180 moniker, OP (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2871573&forum_id=2#27820335) |
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Date: May 4th, 2015 3:35 PM Author: Misunderstood snowy spot Ty (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2871573&forum_id=2#27820392) |
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Date: May 4th, 2015 4:23 PM Author: Misunderstood snowy spot (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2871573&forum_id=2#27820723) |
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Date: May 4th, 2015 4:30 PM Author: vivacious weed whacker LOL....how did pensive get a job at google? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2871573&forum_id=2#27820756) |
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Date: May 4th, 2015 4:51 PM Author: Misunderstood snowy spot Not entirely sure, but there is a good fight between him and a Googler concerning his experience ITT: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=5516714 (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2871573&forum_id=2#27820900) |
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Date: May 4th, 2015 10:24 PM Author: passionate sinister persian parlour he is obviously a high g bro. if you could get into a top 20 PhD program in math, Google will beg you to work for them. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2871573&forum_id=2#27823445) |
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Date: May 4th, 2015 11:30 PM Author: razzle-dazzle maize faggot firefighter school cafeteria not true (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2871573&forum_id=2#27824138) |
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Date: May 4th, 2015 9:54 PM Author: Misunderstood snowy spot (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2871573&forum_id=2#27823158) |
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Date: May 4th, 2015 9:59 PM Author: Slippery pink rehab Is Michael O. Church pensive tp, or is this flame? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2871573&forum_id=2#27823205) |
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Date: May 4th, 2015 10:01 PM Author: lascivious obsidian base goal in life only one man invented ambition, the card game. his name is michael o. church and via his moniker pensive he discussed the game on xoxo. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2871573&forum_id=2#27823222) |
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Date: May 4th, 2015 10:07 PM Author: talented scourge upon the earth Ambition is a WONDERFUL game here is a link to the rules
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1S7lsZKzHuuhoTb2Wj_L3zrhHZh5IEKBDf56ExgErv4o/edit?pli=1
tell your friends! |
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Date: May 4th, 2015 10:11 PM Author: lascivious obsidian base goal in life HI PENSIVE (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2871573&forum_id=2#27823305) |
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Date: May 4th, 2015 11:20 PM Author: Misunderstood snowy spot Honestly, pretty cool that he invented a card game. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2871573&forum_id=2#27824036) |
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Date: May 4th, 2015 11:21 PM Author: passionate sinister persian parlour (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2871573&forum_id=2#27824048) |
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Date: May 5th, 2015 12:58 PM Author: Territorial University it's big in Japan, you know! LJL
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Date: May 4th, 2015 10:17 PM Author: passionate sinister persian parlour lol, is he shadow banned or just down voted on hacker news? his post is grey to me. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2871573&forum_id=2#27823364) |
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Date: May 4th, 2015 11:51 PM Author: Misunderstood snowy spot Think his comments get automatically sent to the bottom of threads due to a feud between him and a mod. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2871573&forum_id=2#27824300) |
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Date: May 4th, 2015 11:31 PM Author: Topaz office why does paul graham have a vendetta against michael o. church?
https://www.quora.com/Hacker-News/Why-does-Paul-Graham-have-a-vendetta-against-Michael-O-Church |
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Date: May 5th, 2015 9:56 AM Author: bateful demanding hissy fit stead tbf, paul graham is a huge faggot (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2871573&forum_id=2#27826149) |
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Date: May 5th, 2015 3:00 PM Author: bonkers parlor Jealousy (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2871573&forum_id=2#27827555) |
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Date: May 4th, 2015 11:31 PM Author: Topaz office privately, do venture capitalists agree with the writings of michael o. church? https://www.quora.com/Privately-do-venture-capitalists-agree-with-the-writings-of-Michael-O-Church (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2871573&forum_id=2#27824152) |
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Date: May 5th, 2015 12:13 AM Author: Misunderstood snowy spot Perhaps my favorite question. Reads like an infomercial. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2871573&forum_id=2#27824435) |
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Date: May 21st, 2015 1:12 AM Author: pearl station (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2871573&forum_id=2#27933445) |
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Date: May 4th, 2015 11:33 PM Author: Topaz office lol why are there like 50 questions about "michael o. church" with the fucking o. is it literally pensive talking to himself |
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Date: May 4th, 2015 11:39 PM Author: Misunderstood snowy spot http://www.quora.com/What-has-Michael-O-Church-produced-in-his-life-besides-a-card-game (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2871573&forum_id=2#27824216) |
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Date: September 13th, 2015 7:40 PM Author: Amber histrionic gay wizard cuck (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2871573&forum_id=2#28748688) |
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Date: May 5th, 2015 9:55 AM Author: bateful demanding hissy fit stead http://www.xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=2871573&mc=37&forum_id=2#27823328 (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2871573&forum_id=2#27826143) |
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Date: May 5th, 2015 12:45 AM Author: zippy slimy old irish cottage lol wtf is this
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Date: May 5th, 2015 12:48 AM Author: Misunderstood snowy spot 180! (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2871573&forum_id=2#27824736) |
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Date: May 5th, 2015 11:26 AM Author: self-absorbed step-uncle's house He might be right about the first part, but definitely not about the second - the posters on AutoAdmit do not represent the upper class, or even serious aspirants to the upper class. They are the upper middle class (or serious aspirants to it). The upper class tends to be fanatically mindful of its reputation and popularity even when it gets the means to maintaining those things hilariously wrong; choosing to be inflammatory and narcissistic because one is confident one will face no repercussions for it is something they never do (and I believe the content of AutoAdmit is deliberate, not an endless parade of mistakes and miscalculations). It is the upper middle class that treats everything as a game and cannot conceive of real consequences.
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Date: May 19th, 2015 2:00 AM Author: contagious canary menage sex offender (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2871573&forum_id=2#27919745) |
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Date: May 5th, 2015 12:59 PM Author: Territorial University Is this the Pensive Rhodes Scholarship meltdown thread?
Date: November 24th, 2005 6:58 PM Author: not
False. Ever hear of Joe Caltech? He's worse with people than most diagnosed autistics, and his personality is defective, and he got [a Rhodes Scholarship].
http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=305275&forum_id=2#4374491 |
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Date: May 5th, 2015 1:00 PM Author: Territorial University Date: November 24th, 2005 7:50 PM Author: not
Never tempt a man with quicker wit.
I never said that the Rhodes was a TTT. Historically, it has been a prestigious scholarship, but there are anecdotal reports of losers receiving them, and proof of at least one: Joe Caltech. PrepMe, of course, is a loser-fucker company designed to help rich loser-fuckers get into top schools at the expense of poorer, more worthy students. Simply put, it's a classist pogrom against the American poor.
"including graduate schools that wouldn't have given you a second glance"
Such as? I won't hold my breath; I know you won't be able to come up with any. To support your point, it is true that I wouldn't have gotten into top engineering departments, only because I didn't take any engineering classes at all during undergrad, but the same goes in reverse. I honestly don't know how to compare math vs. engineering for overall prestige, but I'm pretty sure Joe wouldn't have gotten into a top 25 math department, ever, but especially not now, after the Michael Lohman incident, since surely departments are more worried about "that type" than they were before.
I'm NOT the only one who's got this loser-fucker figured out? Ever hear of 174? He's way more prestigious (as am I) than anyone who has ever defended Joe Caltech.
http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=305275&forum_id=2#4374678 |
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Date: May 5th, 2015 1:08 PM Author: Territorial University Date: November 24th, 2005 9:47 PM Author: not
That's really not true anymore. Maybe it was at one time, but the general consensus among elite circles (compared to lower-middle class XO speculation):
1. You don't need to go to HYP, but you should go somewhere that is good-- an Ivy, top 15 LAC, or a uni with formidable research programs. Princeton is the best of HYP.
2. If you went to a lower-calibre undergrad, you can make up for it through extensive self-study and erudition.
3. The major international fellowships (Rhodes, et al) have declined in selectivity over the past decade or so, though they're still quite respectable.
In any case, I never applied for the RS and I probably won't, because it would interrupt my graduate study. If Joe Caltech got one, though, I'd have a damn good shot at it.
http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=305275&forum_id=2#4375409 |
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Date: May 5th, 2015 1:10 PM Author: Territorial University Date: November 24th, 2005 9:58 PM Author: asdf1234
You would have NO SHOT EVER, so lets clear that up to begin with.
My partner for one of my papers was one of the 32. He had excellent grades (and a much heavier courseload than me) and ridiculous extracurriculars. The Rhodes blurb mentioned like 1/3 of them.
truly prestigious.
Date: November 24th, 2005 10:02 PM Author: not [pensive]
You are wrong, and you can suck my cock, so let's clear that up to begin with.
If Joe Caltech was able to get one, then it wouldn't be difficult for me since I am by all accounts more impressive. If he hadn't gotten one, I would probably suspect that my chances would be relatively low.
That said, it sounds like your friend is pretty damn prestigious. Kudos to him.
http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=305275&forum_id=2#4375490 |
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Date: May 5th, 2015 1:11 PM Author: Territorial University Date: November 24th, 2005 10:12 PM Author: not
You see, it's really not. Yes, the Rhodes Scholarship is neat and a lot of impressive people end up getting them, but it's not the "ultimate arbiter" of anything other than who gets to study in England.
I am already more prestigious than he is, though that's not saying much, and in truth I'm not terribly prestigious.
http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=305275&forum_id=2#4375537 |
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Date: May 5th, 2015 1:21 PM Author: Territorial University GTO chimes in...
Date: November 25th, 2005 1:32 AM Author: Great Teacher Onizuka
I guess pensive's prestige rankings are based primarily on whether the school accepted him.
http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=305275&forum_id=2#4376921 |
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Date: May 5th, 2015 1:30 PM Author: Misunderstood snowy spot Damn that thread is out of control. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2871573&forum_id=2#27827098) |
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Date: May 5th, 2015 1:33 PM Author: Territorial University Fuck yeah. pensive later claimed he "blacked out" ever posting in it. lol (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2871573&forum_id=2#27827118) |
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Date: May 18th, 2015 10:50 PM Author: Beady-eyed abusive area Poster since the CC days.
He was a damaged fucking guy, no question.
I fought him back then but I support his stance on Silicon Valley and most of his work on Quora.
I wouldn't want to be one of his enemies. If he gets his shit together and beats whatever demons are holding him back, he's powerful. If he goes all-out crazy, then he's dangerous because he's crazy. No win. |
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Date: May 19th, 2015 1:51 AM Author: hateful mildly autistic stage roast beef Subject: Hi pensive! (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2871573&forum_id=2#27919722) |
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Date: May 5th, 2015 2:31 PM Author: Territorial University Date: November 25th, 2005 2:38 AM Author: not
A lot of those Rhodes Scholars are damn impressive. Joe Caltech isn't.
Haha. I've gotten you fuckers to flame with me for 300+ posts. Haven't you figured out yet that I only care about the numbers? It glorifies my ego either way. PWN3D.
http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=305275&forum_id=2#4377469 |
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Date: May 21st, 2015 1:06 AM Author: Topaz office lol. pensive is such a diseased person (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2871573&forum_id=2#27933408) |
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Date: May 19th, 2015 1:53 AM Author: hateful mildly autistic stage roast beef his dedication to sockpuppeting is utterly unreal. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2871573&forum_id=2#27919731) |
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Date: May 19th, 2015 3:03 AM Author: Amber histrionic gay wizard cuck http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Suspected_Wikipedia_sockpuppets_of_Mike_Church (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2871573&forum_id=2#27919858) |
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Date: May 21st, 2015 1:15 AM Author: pearl station User:COORS (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2871573&forum_id=2#27933469) |
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Date: May 21st, 2015 1:01 AM Author: mind-boggling casino https://michaelochurch.wordpress.com/2013/07/03/my-name-is-cleared/ (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2871573&forum_id=2#27933382) |
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Date: May 21st, 2015 1:08 AM Author: Topaz office that's a damn fine letter mike wrote himself (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2871573&forum_id=2#27933418) |
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Date: May 21st, 2015 1:10 AM Author: pearl station hi pensive (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2871573&forum_id=2#27933436) |
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Date: May 21st, 2015 1:26 AM Author: vigorous indirect expression piazza Remember he claimed to be more prestigious than Joe Caltech
Never forget |
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Date: May 21st, 2015 1:32 AM Author: Carnelian Multi-colored Public Bath Digit Ratio Is Michael O Church right when he says "Everyone interested in US sociology needs to read Autoadmit/Xoxohth. Revolting but it's how the US upper-class actually think".?
https://www.quora.com/Is-Michael-O-Church-right-when-he-says-Everyone-interested-in-US-sociology-needs-to-read-Autoadmit-Xoxohth-Revolting-but-its-how-the-US-upper-class-actually-think?share=1 |
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Date: September 13th, 2015 9:11 PM Author: racy clown factory reset button https://www.quora.com/What-is-it-like-to-worship-Bryan-Caplan-Peter-Thiel-Aaron-Swartz-and-Michael-O-Church (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2871573&forum_id=2#28749329) |
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Date: September 14th, 2015 12:02 PM Author: Misunderstood snowy spot That has to be one of the more bizarre questions and first responses I've seen on that site. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2871573&forum_id=2#28751993) |