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Date: May 4th, 2015 3:28 PM Author: plum depressive
http://www.quora.com/Why-is-Michael-O-Church-notorious-at-Google
Michael O. Church, T9 troll
187 upvotes by Piaw Na (Worked at Google), Quora User, Arjun Prakash, (more)
Google is a large company. It may be one of the best companies at that size, but it still has many of the big-company issues. I was there for 6 months and in that time, I:
tried to save a failing product. I had widespread engineering support but I did not convince upper management of my position. If I had understood large companies better, I would have known this mission to be impossible, because no one is taken seriously at 3 months old. If that person's obviously right, it just makes the people in power angrier.
exposed abuses of process in a way that embarrassed at least one (highly guilty) powerful manager personally.
I am not ashamed of any of this, but if I were to do it over again, I would have done things very differently. Google is, all taken, a pretty great company. I just didn't understand how large human organizations work, at that time, and I really bought into Google's self-perception of being different and open to new ideas, regardless of rank.
I was embarrassingly wrong.
Career advice for Nooglers: Google is doing some fascinating work and it's a great place to be if you get on to the right project. But learn from the mistakes of your predecessors, keep your head down, learn how to play the game before attempting to play it, and wait a few years before you attempt anything that might have a real impact. Also, "eng-misc" rhymes with "just don't".
Written 2 Jan, 2013. 20,607 views.
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Date: May 4th, 2015 10:32 PM Author: kink-friendly passionate cruise ship deer antler
JFC. this needs more attention on xoxo.
this is fucking EPIC.
it's not an easy feat to make a reputation for yourself in a company the size of Google, much less the entirely of SV.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2871573&forum_id=2#27823524) |
Date: May 5th, 2015 12:59 PM Author: plum depressive
Is this the Pensive Rhodes Scholarship meltdown thread?
Date: November 24th, 2005 6:58 PM
Author: not
False. Ever hear of Joe Caltech? He's worse with people than most diagnosed autistics, and his personality is defective, and he got [a Rhodes Scholarship].
http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=305275&forum_id=2#4374491
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Date: May 5th, 2015 1:00 PM Author: plum depressive
Date: November 24th, 2005 7:50 PM
Author: not
Never tempt a man with quicker wit.
I never said that the Rhodes was a TTT. Historically, it has been a prestigious scholarship, but there are anecdotal reports of losers receiving them, and proof of at least one: Joe Caltech. PrepMe, of course, is a loser-fucker company designed to help rich loser-fuckers get into top schools at the expense of poorer, more worthy students. Simply put, it's a classist pogrom against the American poor.
"including graduate schools that wouldn't have given you a second glance"
Such as? I won't hold my breath; I know you won't be able to come up with any. To support your point, it is true that I wouldn't have gotten into top engineering departments, only because I didn't take any engineering classes at all during undergrad, but the same goes in reverse. I honestly don't know how to compare math vs. engineering for overall prestige, but I'm pretty sure Joe wouldn't have gotten into a top 25 math department, ever, but especially not now, after the Michael Lohman incident, since surely departments are more worried about "that type" than they were before.
I'm NOT the only one who's got this loser-fucker figured out? Ever hear of 174? He's way more prestigious (as am I) than anyone who has ever defended Joe Caltech.
http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=305275&forum_id=2#4374678
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Date: May 5th, 2015 1:08 PM Author: plum depressive
Date: November 24th, 2005 9:47 PM
Author: not
That's really not true anymore. Maybe it was at one time, but the general consensus among elite circles (compared to lower-middle class XO speculation):
1. You don't need to go to HYP, but you should go somewhere that is good-- an Ivy, top 15 LAC, or a uni with formidable research programs. Princeton is the best of HYP.
2. If you went to a lower-calibre undergrad, you can make up for it through extensive self-study and erudition.
3. The major international fellowships (Rhodes, et al) have declined in selectivity over the past decade or so, though they're still quite respectable.
In any case, I never applied for the RS and I probably won't, because it would interrupt my graduate study. If Joe Caltech got one, though, I'd have a damn good shot at it.
http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=305275&forum_id=2#4375409
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Date: May 5th, 2015 1:10 PM Author: plum depressive
Date: November 24th, 2005 9:58 PM
Author: asdf1234
You would have NO SHOT EVER, so lets clear that up to begin with.
My partner for one of my papers was one of the 32. He had excellent grades (and a much heavier courseload than me) and ridiculous extracurriculars. The Rhodes blurb mentioned like 1/3 of them.
truly prestigious.
Date: November 24th, 2005 10:02 PM
Author: not [pensive]
You are wrong, and you can suck my cock, so let's clear that up to begin with.
If Joe Caltech was able to get one, then it wouldn't be difficult for me since I am by all accounts more impressive. If he hadn't gotten one, I would probably suspect that my chances would be relatively low.
That said, it sounds like your friend is pretty damn prestigious. Kudos to him.
http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=305275&forum_id=2#4375490
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Date: May 5th, 2015 1:11 PM Author: plum depressive
Date: November 24th, 2005 10:12 PM
Author: not
You see, it's really not. Yes, the Rhodes Scholarship is neat and a lot of impressive people end up getting them, but it's not the "ultimate arbiter" of anything other than who gets to study in England.
I am already more prestigious than he is, though that's not saying much, and in truth I'm not terribly prestigious.
http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=305275&forum_id=2#4375537
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Date: May 5th, 2015 1:21 PM Author: plum depressive
GTO chimes in...
Date: November 25th, 2005 1:32 AM
Author: Great Teacher Onizuka
I guess pensive's prestige rankings are based primarily on whether the school accepted him.
http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=305275&forum_id=2#4376921
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Date: May 18th, 2015 10:50 PM Author: histrionic confused yarmulke
Poster since the CC days.
He was a damaged fucking guy, no question.
I fought him back then but I support his stance on Silicon Valley and most of his work on Quora.
I wouldn't want to be one of his enemies. If he gets his shit together and beats whatever demons are holding him back, he's powerful. If he goes all-out crazy, then he's dangerous because he's crazy. No win.
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Date: May 5th, 2015 2:31 PM Author: plum depressive
Date: November 25th, 2005 2:38 AM
Author: not
A lot of those Rhodes Scholars are damn impressive. Joe Caltech isn't.
Haha. I've gotten you fuckers to flame with me for 300+ posts. Haven't you figured out yet that I only care about the numbers? It glorifies my ego either way. PWN3D.
http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=305275&forum_id=2#4377469
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Date: May 21st, 2015 1:26 AM Author: Underhanded lodge hairy legs
Remember he claimed to be more prestigious than Joe Caltech
Never forget
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