I really hope poasters don't consider earl pinnacle of success
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Date: May 19th, 2015 7:25 PM Author: Mind-boggling masturbator
no not at all. I am shitting on TT a little, because for all his trolling, he basically admits to being half a shitlaw litigator. He is correct that it is profitable to settle every case as quickly as possible, but not because it is always to the clients benefit (though it may be 90% of the time), but because he is incapable of taking a case to trial.
Part of his freedom and ability to save stems from irresponsibility. By his own admission, he cannot and will not front any trial or witness costs. He doesn't have trial experience.
So he is effective at settling shitlaw cases in volume, but he is unable to represent his client properly if for some reason it is in the client's best interest to go to trial.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2884398&forum_id=2#27923667) |
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Date: May 19th, 2015 8:20 PM Author: Vigorous Silver Toilet Seat
this is just not true, u take on the risk that ur WORK will not be compensated for if there is no recovery, but legally u arent assuming the COSTS, my fee agreement which is based off the standard CA Bar contingent fee agreements provides that a client has to repay me for any COSTS i advance even if i LOSE the case, they fire me, or I get court permission to withdraw
this is the irony of ur argument, by advancing costs for a client i am just riskign that they will get RAPED even more, i spent 20k on an expert, that may be my money but legally it is their money, and it either comes out of the settlement or they repay me....
and my contingent fee agreement says the client has sole discetiion to settle, but that under the ethical rules im REQUIRED to seek permission to withdraw as counsel if they reject a reasonable settlement and continue litigation for the sole purpose of harassing the other side.... that is all im required to tell them, u have no obligation to be a kamikaze pilot, if i ever had to go to trial it wld be because i had a truly great case and the other side wldnt pay up, not because some retard client who has no idea abt legal system or value of their case thinks it wld be cool to go to trial, my job as a lawyer is tell them what their case is worth,
have no obligation take every case or even 10% of cases to trial, that is just BS , u live in some nowag fantasy land
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2884398&forum_id=2#27924145)
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Date: May 20th, 2015 11:59 AM Author: Vigorous Silver Toilet Seat
? what are you talking about... i NEVER list how much my demand is in the pleadings.. i just list the damages they are seeking
its only later i make a demand or they ask for a demand or we go to mediation and i make a first offer at mediation
and of course i can ethically seek whatever amount as long as it does not exceeed a damages cap, taht is part of the bargaining process inn order to get to a fair number.. if i made my ACTUAL desired number my first offer then im just fuking my client in the ass cause ill have to settle for a much lower number
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2884398&forum_id=2#27928259) |
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Date: May 19th, 2015 8:42 PM Author: Mind-boggling masturbator
because you are right, I am not a litigator, I misspoke about advancing costs versus eating fees.
You said yourself that:
"Ok I agree with this. You should be ABLE to go to trial on any case you take and the decision should be the clients. For instance today in Shias paradise I almost took a traffic ticket to trial."
TT keeps coming on to say he has no obligation to bankrupt himself or to take every case, or even 10% of cases to trial just cause idiot clients demand it. I am curious whether he would be able to take ONE case to trial, or if he has not bothered with that part of preparation and learning (which I would imagine is important to a solo lawyer) because he has decided ahead of time that it is just not going to happen.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2884398&forum_id=2#27924358) |
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Date: May 19th, 2015 8:49 PM Author: Vigorous Silver Toilet Seat
its not the clients decision to decide whether it is worthwhile to take a case to trial, that is a legal decision for the lawyer based on whether the settlement offer at mediation are appropriate for the client's damages or whether continuing the cast towrards trial is appropriate in order to maximize settlement
ive had one case that settled 1-2 months before trial but it was SPS so the settlement was more than possible damages
again u queer, if i had a 180 case and they wldnt pay i have no prob taking it to trail or arbitration hearing.. i have one right now i wldnt mind doing but most cases are not apprpriate for trial and wld not even survive MSJ possibly
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2884398&forum_id=2#27924434)
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Date: May 20th, 2015 12:02 PM Author: Exciting Twisted International Law Enforcement Agency
here goes
wtf is 'proper' advice?
'legal chances at prevailing at trial' is just a fucking guess even for trial attorneys and you aren't that
'it's not a client's right to refuse to settle'. it's always a client's right to refuse to settle unless it's not because you've made them give away that right to you which i doubt is ethically possible.
'ethical duty to warn' absolutely agree. this is why it is their call to make. if you warn them about all of the pitfalls and they still want a trial, the client should get a trial.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2884398&forum_id=2#27928274) |
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Date: May 19th, 2015 8:37 PM Author: Vigorous Silver Toilet Seat
i tell the truth that 97% plus of cases do not go to trial and that it is very rare and that if they go to trial its very sterssful for the client, expensive, and often counter productive becacuse a jury is unpredictable so you cannot rely on them ruling in ur favor. I tell them that almost all cases settle at mediation and that if we canot settle at mediation then the case cld get dmissed by the judge at MSJ. I also mention its not like Judge Judy or a TV show. Also mention to my clients who have emotional distress damages that they will be subjected to a instrustive pysch exam by some faggot bullshit defense expert witness pysch who can ask them abt all sorts of personal shit in their life
Of course solo Earl wld tell them some lying bogus BS abt how he is a valiant warrior who will take the client's SHIT case to trial and advance 50k in costs because that is what VALIANT WARRIOR TRIAL LAWYERS like hapa faggot earl do and surely the jury will rule in the clients favor and all cases shld be prepared for trial
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2884398&forum_id=2#27924306)
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Date: May 19th, 2015 7:15 PM Author: exhilarant heaven legal warrant
These posters are annoying because they try to be both models of success and yet chill, "welp it is what it is! high col!" nutella-esquers.
Can't be both ways.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2884398&forum_id=2#27923600) |
Date: May 19th, 2015 7:26 PM Author: beta electric bawdyhouse
idk about you guys but i'd be pretty happy making 400k in sunny LA with a loving GF, medical weed, regular ski trips, etc
yeah he works a lot, but i don't know anyone making $400k who works LESS than he does..
true, he fucked up by buying that condo, which has handcuffed him. i would have rather bought a real place with much better value in the hills and dealt with the commute. if he works where i've been assuming he works, the hills wouldn't that far of a commute anyway. 40 minutes in your own car with your own music is much better than being packed like sardines on a MFH subway in the bitter cold.
he also fucked up by having xo and his GF as his only social outlet, i don't know how that doesn't make him go stir crazy. even when i'm dating someone, if i don't get to chill with my friends, i become miserable and lonely.
but those are personal differences anyway, earl is a top 1% outcome for law
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2884398&forum_id=2#27923683) |
Date: May 19th, 2015 7:39 PM Author: Nubile contagious death wish
Anyone who is WGWAG spawn is successful by default - he has already won the genetic lottery.
Aside from his genetics, he is making more than pretty much anyone on XOXO (sorry rsf 9/11 money doesnt count because it is not real income).
Not only is he WGWAG spawn but he himself WGWAGs currently. I mean, not even Genghis motherfucking Khan himself - the most alpha Asian of all time - could keep his empire together after he died, but Earl is ensuring his superior genetic lineage is passed down to the Xth generation.
Lastly, he is the only man on earth to have dunked on Whokebe, although Whokebe has tried - unsuccessfully - to reversebigwilliestyle pwn him by claiming he was the dunker and not the dunkee.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2884398&forum_id=2#27923794) |
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Date: May 19th, 2015 11:14 PM Author: Thriller shimmering marketing idea haunted graveyard
COP
also earl's ex was a hot Japanese American girl, whom he still pines for, definitely the one that got away.
japanese women >>> ***
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2884398&forum_id=2#27925567) |
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Date: May 19th, 2015 8:49 PM Author: Mind-boggling masturbator
biglaw for 2.5 years.
laid off
moved to LA and took the bar.
Got a job in house before I got bar results back (in house did not require CA bar)
Worked in house for a year not making enough money.
Got a midlaw firm job at the end of 2010 doing what I used to do in biglaw, but on a broader scale.
I like it much better than biglaw. I am less of an asshole senior associate than the ones I worked for in NY. I still work a lot but cheap clients are more of an issue than ones that schedule conference calls on Sunday at 7 am.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2884398&forum_id=2#27924429) |
Date: May 19th, 2015 8:53 PM Author: Ivory Tattoo
Earl is successful by any reasonable measure. He doesn't have billions in a startup or some super stud nuerosurgeon but he is a white collar professional making very good money (anything 300K+) and is healthy and fit and unlike aspie losers has some social skills and a long term GF.
LJL at XO shitting on him. The only way we could shit on him is if ALL of us are some YLS/SCOTUS/WLRK partner or USNA/Top Gun or MIT/Billion dollar IPO or Harvard PhD/Stanford Professor or HMS/John Hopkins or Rhodes/State senator on that US senator path
Considering half the board is asking abt how to be a solo or transition into 150K inhouse or get a shitlaw job or how to lose weight or help with suicide/mental addiction , Earl is a SUCCESS story
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2884398&forum_id=2#27924465)
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Date: May 19th, 2015 8:56 PM Author: Cracking Set Athletic Conference
No one does that. But he is very successful.
Wtf do you want from a lawyer?
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2884398&forum_id=2#27924489) |
Date: May 19th, 2015 11:21 PM Author: dark razzle french chef milk
this thread could've been 2 or 3 posts. earl being like "yeah i guess so lol" and the OP being MAF once more, then the thread fades into the poasting aether
but no you faggots decide it needs subthread wasteland upon subthread wasteland
what a terrible thread, wgwag fuk u all
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2884398&forum_id=2#27925646) |
Date: May 20th, 2015 8:58 AM Author: cruel-hearted menage associate
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Not too familiar with earl. How old is he? If mid-30s, $300K is good. Poasters in this board don't seem to understand that careers are 30 years old or more. Earl has 15 more years of working at least. That $300K could go up to $500K over time theoretically.
It's not the pinnacle of success but it is a good outcome. I know non-law people making 200K-300K at 30, they seem happy.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2884398&forum_id=2#27927464) |
Date: May 21st, 2015 10:16 PM Author: chocolate theater multi-billionaire
As far as legal careers go, I think most would consider his career very "winning"
As far as careers go, law is uncreative/unfulfilling striver shit so......
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2884398&forum_id=2#27940264) |
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