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BCG search: Why Going In-house is Often the Worst Decision a Good Attorney Can E
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Date: June 11th, 2015 12:06 PM Author: bearded up-to-no-good lay http://www.bcgsearch.com/article/900045115/Why-Going-In-house-is-Often-the-Worst-Decision-a-Good-Attorney-Can-Ever-Make/
some of these points have truth to them, but this is like ww1 propaganda. |
Date: June 11th, 2015 12:13 PM Author: Trip Bespoke Multi-billionaire Selfie he's over the top but I generally enjoy Barne's writings. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2905421&forum_id=2#28093493) |
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Date: June 11th, 2015 12:28 PM Author: Alcoholic philosopher-king chapel "Going in-house is a CAREER KILLER and something that has destroyed the careers, lives and families of more attorneys than I can count."
There should be a day of remembrance for all our brothers who lost their lives going in-house. Also like his use of FACT to show this is not flame. |
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Date: June 11th, 2015 1:06 PM Author: fluffy bbw holy shit this line is really in the article not flame
RIP In-house bros
POW MIA
Gone but NEVAR 4gotten |
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Date: June 11th, 2015 1:10 PM Author: Motley Set He has an article where he compares being a lawyer to being in a pow camp and concludes being a pow is less stressful. Not flame. But also after I read it I kind of agreed. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2905421&forum_id=2#28093939) |
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Date: June 11th, 2015 1:12 PM Author: fluffy bbw "This is the way the profession has worked for thousands of years—it has not changed and will always be like this"
literally thousands of years of bros going in-house |
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Date: June 11th, 2015 1:14 PM Author: Motley Set You'll like this one http://www.bcgsearch.com/m/article/900044981/Seven-Reasons-Why-Practicing-Law-is-More-Stressful-than-Spending-18-Months-in-a-POW-Camp/ (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2905421&forum_id=2#28093972) |
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Date: June 11th, 2015 1:24 PM Author: fluffy bbw Based solely off writing style, are we sure this guy isn't tommy t? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2905421&forum_id=2#28094048) |
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Date: June 11th, 2015 5:15 PM Author: Thirsty pale quadroon sanctuary LOL (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2905421&forum_id=2#28095581) |
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Date: June 11th, 2015 6:41 PM Author: Khaki histrionic organic girlfriend NOT FLAME (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2905421&forum_id=2#28096171) |
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Date: June 11th, 2015 6:39 PM Author: thriller chocolate queen of the night lol (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2905421&forum_id=2#28096153) |
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Date: June 13th, 2015 12:52 PM Author: Diverse Sweet Tailpipe (38 AD Jew M&A associate going in house with halal cart guild) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2905421&forum_id=2#28109748) |
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Date: February 2nd, 2016 11:41 PM Author: insane ticket booth Pathetic (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2905421&forum_id=2#29741455) |
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Date: June 11th, 2015 1:03 PM Author: chrome razzle goyim generalized bond If you go in house I don't get paid. Just say it. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2905421&forum_id=2#28093894) |
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Date: June 11th, 2015 1:07 PM Author: hateful canary kitchen brethren This. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2905421&forum_id=2#28093919) |
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Date: June 11th, 2015 1:12 PM Author: razzmatazz crotch pit companies never use recruiters to fill in-house positions? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2905421&forum_id=2#28093955) |
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Date: June 11th, 2015 1:14 PM Author: Motley Set Once they go in house they won't switch again. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2905421&forum_id=2#28093978) |
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Date: June 11th, 2015 1:15 PM Author: hateful canary kitchen brethren They do, but it is a different setup that is far less lucrative for recruiters. In biglaw people move around often and firms readily pay large fees. In-house expects people to stick around for large periods of time and rely more on existing relationships, their HR department, plus will work with specific recruiters that agree to reduced fees. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2905421&forum_id=2#28093986) |
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Date: June 11th, 2015 1:22 PM Author: Cerebral Ape yea, the hypocrisy in his criticism of partners fawning over associates going in house for personal gain is a bit apparent in his scare tactics (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2905421&forum_id=2#28094035) |
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Date: February 2nd, 2016 11:04 PM Author: Stubborn Coldplay Fan (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2905421&forum_id=2#29741237) |
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Date: June 11th, 2015 1:08 PM Author: hateful canary kitchen brethren Has this individual ever done anything not blatantly self serving? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2905421&forum_id=2#28093925) |
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Date: June 11th, 2015 1:15 PM Author: Motley Set Idk man sometimes he seems credited as fuck compared to the nyt type stories: everyone makes 160k hooray! But we already know the grim side so he just seems like a hysteric at this point. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2905421&forum_id=2#28093987) |
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Date: June 11th, 2015 1:18 PM Author: hateful canary kitchen brethren Yeah but you're comparing journalists that actually have no clue to someone who at least has a clue but also has a personal agenda. Neither is exactly ideal. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2905421&forum_id=2#28094004) |
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Date: June 11th, 2015 1:21 PM Author: Motley Set Yeah I guess my point is that he is trying to break through a certain type of rose tinted glasses. But in reality he's trying to break people down so they rely on him like a cult leader. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2905421&forum_id=2#28094027) |
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Date: June 11th, 2015 1:17 PM Author: razzmatazz crotch pit even if only half of this is true, this should be required reading for 0Ls (along with the piece on why practicing law is more stressful than being in a POW camp) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2905421&forum_id=2#28094001) |
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Date: June 11th, 2015 2:06 PM Author: Saffron roommate seems long winded (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2905421&forum_id=2#28094264) |
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Date: June 11th, 2015 2:15 PM Author: stirring circlehead BCG search? name infringement much?
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Date: June 11th, 2015 6:10 PM Author: Laughsome center That was my thought too.
I guess I can start my McKinsey Executive Recruiting startup now |
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Date: June 11th, 2015 2:53 PM Author: Lake electric corner Best line is: "If you are interested in politics and playing dishonest games with your time and legal matters, you should go in-house." LOL yeah not billing hours is the surest route to "playing dishonest games with your time and legal matters" and the politics at a law firm are basically imperceptible during the annual tug of war over partner draws. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2905421&forum_id=2#28094555) |
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Date: June 11th, 2015 6:10 PM Author: Laughsome center (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2905421&forum_id=2#28095910) |
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Date: June 11th, 2015 4:05 PM Author: Thirsty pale quadroon sanctuary hopefully people will actually believe this so that everyone on this bort will have less competition for inhouse positions (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2905421&forum_id=2#28095083) |
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Date: June 11th, 2015 6:08 PM Author: chestnut water buffalo This guy's premises are all wrong and his information is about 15 years out of date.
FACT: Almost no one makes equity partner. In-house is the only option for some people, and it certainly beats being a bitch service partner.
FACT: People going in-house to non-GC roles don't have clients. If they did, they could be better served by staying at a firm.
FACT: A majority of companies actually prefer in-house experience over law firm experience.
FACT: In-house still offers a lotto ticket (being GC) without demanding 80 hours of your life every week for years on end.
FACT: It doesn't matter if you become less skilled at niche areas of law. You become more skilled as a generalist, and that's what outside counsel is for.
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Date: June 11th, 2015 6:11 PM Author: Laughsome center (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2905421&forum_id=2#28095917) |
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Date: June 12th, 2015 11:28 AM Author: chartreuse hairraiser travel guidebook Also, depending on the organization, there may be mobility within the company as well. I know a few in-house bros that have rotated between different depts.
In my limited experience, other in-house shops prefer getting someone from a rival to see how their rivals handle matters. Some people have left for 10 years bouncing around rival firms to return back at a higher paygrade and title. |
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Date: June 11th, 2015 6:10 PM Author: Khaki histrionic organic girlfriend This guy is 1000 percent flame. BCG is the worst placement org on the planet. He is sick and tired of dealing with attorneys wanting to go in-house so he started planting this false flag so he can get more maleable laterals, which is where he makes his money.
BCG is well documented flame. Do not work with this company. |
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Date: June 11th, 2015 6:34 PM Author: green drunken haunted graveyard state This is totally correct. I once emailed to inquire about an in house posting and got a call back from someone at the sister firm lateral group within 30 minutes. Just started talking lateral shit to me and couldn't understand I only wanted in house. Knew nothing about the position I asked about and I wonder if it was even a real position. Eventually had to hang up on her I'm now on their email list for the rest of time. Even after unsubscribing like 5 times. Company is shady as fuck |
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Date: June 11th, 2015 6:36 PM Author: Khaki histrionic organic girlfriend Have you seen the thread where everyone realized his voicemails were all flame?
Edit: http://www.xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=2533819&mc=45&forum_id=2 |
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Date: October 6th, 2015 9:00 AM Author: Khaki histrionic organic girlfriend (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2905421&forum_id=2#28909610) |
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Date: June 11th, 2015 6:39 PM Author: Exhilarant Opaque Shrine Shitlib jesus this is frustrating and as a salesperson makes me understand why people hate salespeople (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2905421&forum_id=2#28096155) |
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Date: June 12th, 2015 3:34 PM Author: metal crackhouse lettuce As somebody who went in house a little early (5th year), this article makes me lol. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2905421&forum_id=2#28103833) |
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Date: June 13th, 2015 12:39 PM Author: chartreuse hairraiser travel guidebook The only real downside is that you become lazy. IME, it has been because Business does not want to wait another day bc you need to check for misplaced modifiers or give one fresh review in the am, they just want something that will let them provide services or bill.
When I was in Biglaw, the inhouse attys that returned were a bit sloppy. |
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Date: June 13th, 2015 12:50 PM Author: Khaki histrionic organic girlfriend That is the one downside. Yes, you lose your ability to be a perfectionist big law scrooge. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2905421&forum_id=2#28109741) |
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Date: June 13th, 2015 12:53 PM Author: chartreuse hairraiser travel guidebook Yea, I have become lazier overtime. I sometimes send docs to the counterparty's BigLaw outside counsel. They normally get all the small shit: straight quotes, two spaces instead of one, etc. I know, however, that they are getting praised for being so diligent. My boss or business ppl would be like, "is it important? If not, just go with it and send us PDFs to sign." A much more relaxed environment. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2905421&forum_id=2#28109757) |
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Date: June 13th, 2015 12:50 PM Author: Khaki histrionic organic girlfriend (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2905421&forum_id=2#28109737) |
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Date: June 13th, 2015 12:54 PM Author: Diverse Sweet Tailpipe what a histrionic rant (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2905421&forum_id=2#28109759) |
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