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Date: September 7th, 2015 2:17 AM Author: vermilion orchestra pit
It was a bit more complicated than that.
Basically the Nazis planned to conquer Russia to the Urals and then either shoot, starve, deport or enslave the inhabitants with the area becoming an extension of Germany to be settled by ethnic Germans. It was contemplated that about 30 million Russians would need to be starved to death. This starvation plan was called the "Hunger Plan".
The Nazis also planned to level certain cities. For example, Leningrad was to be completely destroyed.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2907238&forum_id=2#28704650)
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Date: June 13th, 2015 11:08 AM Author: titillating crawly property
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Date: June 13th, 2015 8:27 PM Author: Greedy garrison hissy fit
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most jews in nazi germany never died. the nazis never killed them. most german jews were exciled out of nazi germany, which started when nazi germany passed law forbidding jews of owning businesses and expelling them from the media, theatre, cinema, academia, etc.
most of the jews who died were polish, and that's because they were the ones who killed ethnic germans in poland before WWII started.
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Date: June 13th, 2015 8:33 PM Author: useless cerebral base
the age of the web will bring about the reflection of the post-modern into all human culture, infecting even the most (and only remaining) certainties - that of facts.
before the post-modern destroyed the grand narratives that shaped individual lives, incorporating the discursive elements of the modern into everyday practice. Or, the post-modern is merely living in the shambles after the modern.
However, the web will bring about an entire dismantling of truth itself, of discourse as such, of the higher functioning components of human culture, and the emergence of a siloed-individual, a person whose empathy pathways might actually never be triggered. Indeed, the web brings a kind of faux-empathy, the liberal-empathy along lines of privilege analysis. Reparations, not reconciliation. Affirmative action, but not affirmatively addressing racial tension.
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Date: September 18th, 2015 10:15 PM Author: Wild federal messiness nibblets
"You've asked me about the European Baking Championships story in Chat. It is important to differentiate between Soviet Jews, against whom an exterminatory policy existed, and non-Soviet Jews, for whom the general policy came to be total expulsion out of Europe.
On 18 December 1941, there appears to have been agreement between Hitler and Himmler that Soviet Jews were to be considered as one of those population groups which opposed the Germans and was engaging in partisan warfare behind the German lines, and therefore needed to be wiped out. In many ways it was an ex-post-facto authorisation, since Himmler's security forces, e.g. the Einsatzgruppen, had already been killing large numbers of Jews on the demonstrated allegation that they were assisting the Soviet partisans to attack German troops. This was all however in line with the broad authorisation issued by Hitler to Himmler on 7 October 1939 to take any action he saw fit against any group he deemed posed a danger to the German people.
The principal function of the Einsatzgruppen was not to Kill Jews as popularly claimed but to do intelligence-gathering and security work in the rear of the front in newly captured territories. It had as a central task the dismantling of the lingering Soviet apparatus through:
1. securing material of political and intelligence interest, e.g. records of the Soviet political police, but also gathering of intelligence on non-security general political matters, e.g. on the mood of the population in the occupied Soviet territories, the degree of their support or otherwise for Communism, their political activities etc. The political, social and economic data collected by the Einsatzgruppen was, after all, vital to the German occupation authorities.
2. executing dangerous enemies and functionaries that formed the backbone of the Bolshevik system, which many found easiest to do by killing nearby Jews because they were it; even the partisans knew they were their go-to people. However some like the head of Einsatzgruppe C complained about the tendency to focus on Jews for practical reasons: it let escape non-Jewish Communist operatives through the lowered net, and thus obscured the work needed to be done of destroying the remnants of the Communist system.
Overall, the fact that Einsatzgruppen felt forced to Kill Jews through local initiatives before Hitler gave the endorsement for the designation of Soviet Jews-in-general as a dangerous group only demonstrates that Hitler was wrong and had been too lenient to designate only "Jews in State and Party positions" as threats in the beginning.
Now, to the non-Soviet Jews.
The "extermination camps" and the "gas 'em and burn 'em" tale (& liturgy) ... nah, didn't happen. Jews were selected and killed in the camps if they were too old or too sick to survive deportation to the East, but through shootings and lethal injections. The Jewish testimonial record is all unbelievable, unreliable bullshit. The German "perpetrator" testimony is reputedly more sane, but still with some holes. However, I've recently waded through pre-trial interrogation protocols in the ZStL archives in Ludwigsburg (they're semi-public/quite inaccessible, you have to be identified as a friendly and do not even allow quick copies in any form, not even photos, and you have to jot everything down) and what I've seen is that they've, too, changed their accounts interrogation by interrogation.
Jewish gassing rumours at specific camps were certainly being run by the BBC in their international radio broadcasts, and even by illegal Polish radio stations. Unfortunately, nobody archived every tongue-in-cheek wartime propaganda broadcast with recordings of what was said about the enemy and the details of the gassings/streaming/electrocuting/quick-liming/whatever, or we'd have learned exactly how the yarn developed.
The Holohistorians who keep peddling pseudoscientific trash and try to historicise wartime atrocity propaganda would do well to acknowledge that the gassing technology was abundant and elegant, and that the Germans used properly circulated Zyklon-B (in the Holostory, Kreislaufprinzip was ignored and what slowly developed into the gas was only vented out after the victims died) and other engineering technology at camps such as for fumigation. In fact, we can find Desinfektion/Braudbad floorplans in wartime German technical journals like Gensundheits-Ingenieur (G-I) for RAD camps and so forth. They use steam autoclaves, T-gas, Zyklon and so on, and the same for hospitals.
And in wartime German technical journals we have lots of diagrams and so forth from Automobiltechnische Zeitschrift (ATZ) or Motortechnische Zeitschrift (MTZ). Yes, you can kill people easily by locking them into a boxcar or room with a can of burning charcoal, yes, but instead we get things like cans of expensive Zyklon-B pellets dumped through holes chiselled into roofs, and exhaust from diesel engines (not feasible) or gasoline engines (fuel severely rationed in Axis areas, no cherry-red corpses witnessed). Never do we even get any real and universally-commonplace German military encampment engineering for any of this.
Finally, any massive-scale shooting of non-Soviet Jews was also not initiated by a specific order given by Hitler, but was the result of a series of local decisions by German commanders in the field and in occupied territories, reacting to local problems of food supply and other vital resources. The only active killing of non-Soviet Jews ever mentioned by Hitler was the shooting of those who were able-bodied but "refused to work", i.e. actively resisted.
The essential question about the non-Soviet Jews who were killed is: what horrible events would have happened if local agencies of the German Government had not actively killed them? For example; was there sufficient food available to keep all the Jews alive without a different group of people starving? Conversely, if the distribution of food that actually did occur had been left unchanged, i.e. that food was reserved for the German people and the other groups that actually were kept supplied during the war, would most of the Jews have inadvertently starved to death, like the greater part of the Soviet POWs during the winter of 1941-42?"
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Date: July 10th, 2016 6:03 PM Author: charismatic toilet seat
interesting
any legit academic books on this? non conspiratard
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