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How big is POTUS 2016?

When was the last election with this high of stakes? I t...
drunken ceo
  07/15/15
(Chris Christie)
brass trip center friendly grandma
  07/15/15
(Ted Cruz)
drunken ceo
  07/15/15
Huge because a two-term president will probably appoint 3 or...
Slap-happy harsh shitlib property
  07/15/15
Potus of what?
vibrant nubile mental disorder hospital
  07/15/15
good point, *poTTTus (that should make it obvious I'm talkin...
drunken ceo
  07/15/15
2012?
mildly autistic concupiscible lodge
  07/15/15
Romney and Obama were basically identical
drunken ceo
  07/15/15
(actual retarded person)
coral splenetic potus rehab
  07/15/15
That's why I thought the GOP hysterics over Obama were so fu...
drunken ceo
  07/15/15
Are you kidding? Romney may be a centrist but he believes i...
coral splenetic potus rehab
  07/15/15
lol this is awesome, I didn't know there were any real tea p...
drunken ceo
  07/15/15
really? because his solution for healthcare in massachusett...
yellow boyish business firm cumskin
  07/15/15
It used to be that states rights vs. large fed govt was a va...
Passionate crystalline university
  07/15/15
As are Jeb and Hillary
soul-stirring cruel-hearted church building travel guidebook
  07/15/15
last white president if we don't deport all mexicans (legal ...
Charismatic khaki piazza
  07/15/15
...
Vengeful electric furnace
  07/15/15
If the GOP doesn't win, they will be discredited and forced ...
shaky supple parlour
  07/15/15
Every election people say its the most important election of...
hateful primrose abode digit ratio
  07/15/15
Undoubtedly there's a tendency to think that. But some el...
drunken ceo
  07/15/15
i'm guessing you're a millennial who probably wasn't paying ...
hateful primrose abode digit ratio
  07/15/15
I agree that 2004 was bigger than the Obama ones but I still...
drunken ceo
  07/15/15
2000 didn't seem big in 2000. the economy was GOAT and bush...
Adventurous juggernaut stage
  07/15/15
cr. 2004 was the goat POTUS of recent elections. 2008 was pr...
Flesh Karate
  07/15/15
I think 08 was pretty big even though it was almost certain ...
shaky supple parlour
  07/15/15
Big because of first black president, but otherwise not. The...
drunken ceo
  07/15/15
this is correct. it is the same every time. every time.
green library double fault
  07/15/15
Bruthe Thpringthteen endorsed Kerry in 04, his first ever po...
bright offensive masturbator sound barrier
  07/15/15
Not that important. Any Hillary presidency will be thorou...
Effete thriller boiling water lettuce
  07/15/15
As you imply, the Senate will most likely go Dem in 2016
Aggressive main people point
  07/15/15
she's gotta be pushing 175 lol
Odious narrow-minded indirect expression
  07/15/15
Hillary is going to win in a landslide with 95% of the minor...
Passionate crystalline university
  07/15/15
4 scotus justices will be at least 80 years old when clinton...
yellow boyish business firm cumskin
  07/15/15
...
exhilarant public bath gaping
  04/22/17
?
crusty buff community account crotch
  04/22/17
other than the scotus implications this is NO different than...
Medicated geriatric trust fund lay
  07/15/15


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Date: July 15th, 2015 9:19 AM
Author: drunken ceo

When was the last election with this high of stakes?

I think clearly the two parties haven't been this far apart recently, if ever.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2935902&forum_id=2#28333892)



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Date: July 15th, 2015 9:20 AM
Author: brass trip center friendly grandma

(Chris Christie)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2935902&forum_id=2#28333896)



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Date: July 15th, 2015 9:24 AM
Author: drunken ceo

(Ted Cruz)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2935902&forum_id=2#28333912)



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Date: July 15th, 2015 2:16 PM
Author: Slap-happy harsh shitlib property

Huge because a two-term president will probably appoint 3 or 4 Justices.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2935902&forum_id=2#28335694)



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Date: July 15th, 2015 9:25 AM
Author: vibrant nubile mental disorder hospital

Potus of what?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2935902&forum_id=2#28333917)



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Date: July 15th, 2015 9:26 AM
Author: drunken ceo

good point, *poTTTus (that should make it obvious I'm talking about the U.S.)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2935902&forum_id=2#28333921)



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Date: July 15th, 2015 10:06 AM
Author: mildly autistic concupiscible lodge

2012?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2935902&forum_id=2#28334111)



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Date: July 15th, 2015 10:15 AM
Author: drunken ceo

Romney and Obama were basically identical

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2935902&forum_id=2#28334143)



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Date: July 15th, 2015 10:30 AM
Author: coral splenetic potus rehab

(actual retarded person)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2935902&forum_id=2#28334229)



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Date: July 15th, 2015 10:33 AM
Author: drunken ceo

That's why I thought the GOP hysterics over Obama were so funny.

Obama and Romney are both pragmatic centrists. Romney just happens to also be a huge tool.

Did you read the Bartlett article classifying Obama as a conservative? Obviously Bruce has an agenda but I still think the points in it are fairly straightforward.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2935902&forum_id=2#28334248)



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Date: July 15th, 2015 10:47 AM
Author: coral splenetic potus rehab

Are you kidding? Romney may be a centrist but he believes in markets and capitalism and low taxes. For instance, his solution to health care would be more privatization, relaxed regulation, etc. He's also deeply religious and would likely have relied on religious morality in his presidency.

Obama despises markets and capitalism and believes in centralized, planned authority, high taxes, and maximal government control. He is also non-religious.

They are very, very different people, and political leaders.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2935902&forum_id=2#28334310)



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Date: July 15th, 2015 11:21 AM
Author: drunken ceo

lol this is awesome, I didn't know there were any real tea partiers on here

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2935902&forum_id=2#28334431)



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Date: July 15th, 2015 2:11 PM
Author: yellow boyish business firm cumskin

really? because his solution for healthcare in massachusetts was obamacare.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2935902&forum_id=2#28335654)



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Date: July 15th, 2015 2:13 PM
Author: Passionate crystalline university

It used to be that states rights vs. large fed govt was a valid argument to have. I do understand that these days it is all about end goals.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2935902&forum_id=2#28335665)



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Date: July 15th, 2015 2:06 PM
Author: soul-stirring cruel-hearted church building travel guidebook

As are Jeb and Hillary

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2935902&forum_id=2#28335603)



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Date: July 15th, 2015 10:12 AM
Author: Charismatic khaki piazza

last white president if we don't deport all mexicans (legal and illegal) and build an electric fence. so, pretty big.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2935902&forum_id=2#28334129)



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Date: July 15th, 2015 10:54 AM
Author: Vengeful electric furnace



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2935902&forum_id=2#28334329)



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Date: July 15th, 2015 10:16 AM
Author: shaky supple parlour

If the GOP doesn't win, they will be discredited and forced to give up most its base's cherished principles. Democrats will be emboldened and shift left economically and up the efforts on their social change agenda.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2935902&forum_id=2#28334149)



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Date: July 15th, 2015 10:20 AM
Author: hateful primrose abode digit ratio

Every election people say its the most important election of our lifetime. this one will be no different. that doesn't mean it is, but it does feel like that to everyone when they're in the moment

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2935902&forum_id=2#28334179)



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Date: July 15th, 2015 10:26 AM
Author: drunken ceo

Undoubtedly there's a tendency to think that.

But some elections still have to be objectively more important. This one seems bigger than at least than 04 08 and 12.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2935902&forum_id=2#28334211)



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Date: July 15th, 2015 10:32 AM
Author: hateful primrose abode digit ratio

i'm guessing you're a millennial who probably wasn't paying that much attention back in '04 (not your fault - you were just too young to care back then). objectively, 2004 was the biggest of all those. bush had just narrowly won without a majority of popular vote, country was more closely divided than ever (including now), terrorists had just attacked NYC and Washington, we'd gotten into two wars in iraq and afghanistan, the economy was struggling, everyone knew JPS was about to retire so the winner of the election would get an important SOCUTS pick. there was just way more happening back then. today, economy is much better, the country as a whole tends to favor dems more than republicans, Al Queda is largely defeated, ISIS isn't the same level of threat to US interests, and there's no impending SCOTUS pick besides Ginsburg's seat, and she will retire before Obama leaves office.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2935902&forum_id=2#28334243)



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Date: July 15th, 2015 10:34 AM
Author: drunken ceo

I agree that 2004 was bigger than the Obama ones but I still think 2000 was bigger than 2004 and probably the last big election. SCOTUS is a good point but most of the damage bush did was already underway by 2004, in my mind.

No comment on the millenial designation.



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2935902&forum_id=2#28334258)



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Date: July 15th, 2015 10:48 AM
Author: Adventurous juggernaut stage

2000 didn't seem big in 2000. the economy was GOAT and bush v. gore were basically creaming over what to do with the budget surplus. the terrorist threat was unrecognized. people didn't give a fuck, didn't see much of a difference between the two candidates.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2935902&forum_id=2#28334311)



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Date: July 15th, 2015 11:01 AM
Author: Flesh Karate

cr. 2004 was the goat POTUS of recent elections. 2008 was prob bigger than 2012 too

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2935902&forum_id=2#28334351)



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Date: July 15th, 2015 10:33 AM
Author: shaky supple parlour

I think 08 was pretty big even though it was almost certain that Dems would win.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2935902&forum_id=2#28334249)



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Date: July 15th, 2015 10:35 AM
Author: drunken ceo

Big because of first black president, but otherwise not. The main thing I can think of would be if McCain wouldn't have actually done a stimulus (but I'm skeptical of that)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2935902&forum_id=2#28334263)



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Date: July 15th, 2015 2:22 PM
Author: green library double fault

this is correct. it is the same every time.

every time.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2935902&forum_id=2#28335737)



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Date: July 15th, 2015 10:28 AM
Author: bright offensive masturbator sound barrier

Bruthe Thpringthteen endorsed Kerry in 04, his first ever political endorsement, because it was "the most important election in our lifetimes, maybe everrrr"

Having said that, this is likely the last time GOPers will actually believe they could win, but won't. They will survive as a party for a few more POTUS elections, shrivelled and inching towards 25%, and then there will be a hard reallignment as the Dem coalition fractures into two parties: complete shitlibs and new-normals.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2935902&forum_id=2#28334220)



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Date: July 15th, 2015 10:44 AM
Author: Effete thriller boiling water lettuce

Not that important.

Any Hillary presidency will be thoroughly owned by Republicans controlling at least the House the entire time, and the Senate at least from 2018 onwards.

It's a bit bigger of a deal for Republicans to win, but even then, there doesn't seem to be anything particularly high stakes about this election. Obama's biggest accomplishment (Obamacare) is more or less firmly entrenched at this point and there aren't any nationwide pressure points that raise the stakes in the election. 2016 will be more 1992-2000 than 2004-2012.

Playing the long game it might be better for Republicans to lose in 2016. With a strong midterm (inevitable) they're looking at double digit Senate gains with a strong chance of winning in 2020 due to fatigue after 12 years of Democratic rule.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2935902&forum_id=2#28334303)



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Date: July 15th, 2015 1:48 PM
Author: Aggressive main people point

As you imply, the Senate will most likely go Dem in 2016

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2935902&forum_id=2#28335455)



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Date: July 15th, 2015 2:04 PM
Author: Odious narrow-minded indirect expression

she's gotta be pushing 175 lol

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2935902&forum_id=2#28335590)



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Date: July 15th, 2015 2:10 PM
Author: Passionate crystalline university

Hillary is going to win in a landslide with 95% of the minority vote, so whether or not you think it is a "big" election, it won't be interesting at all.

The media is starting to shit themselves over the thought that no one is going to care enough to watch 24/7 news coverage.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2935902&forum_id=2#28335637)



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Date: July 15th, 2015 2:12 PM
Author: yellow boyish business firm cumskin

4 scotus justices will be at least 80 years old when clinton's inaugurated in 2017

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2935902&forum_id=2#28335662)



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Date: April 22nd, 2017 1:02 AM
Author: exhilarant public bath gaping



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2935902&forum_id=2#33132266)



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Date: April 22nd, 2017 6:42 AM
Author: crusty buff community account crotch

?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2935902&forum_id=2#33132828)



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Date: July 15th, 2015 2:23 PM
Author: Medicated geriatric trust fund lay

other than the scotus implications this is NO different than any other election

In hindsight 2000 was the most important because neocon's retarded middle east policy set us back huge

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2935902&forum_id=2#28335754)