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Date: July 17th, 2015 9:01 PM Author: copper pit lettuce
Since you made me laugh heartily, I decided to help you out a little more.
Even in the earliest Christian sources, Islam was treated as a heresy along the lines of Arianism. But heretics have always been counted among believers in the one true God, as opposed to being idolaters. To quote the 7th-Century St John Damascene, who is cult is celebrated in the Lutheran, Orthodox, AND Catholic churches,
""There is also the superstition of the Ishmaelites which to this day prevails and keeps people in error, being a forerunner of the Antichrist. They are descended from Ishmael, who was born to Abraham of Agar, and for this reason they are called both Agarenes and Ishmaelites. They are also called Saracens, which is derived from Sarras kenoi, or destitute of Sara, because of what Agar said to the angel: 'Sara hath sent me away destitute.' These used to be idolaters and worshiped the morning star and Aphrodite, whom in their own language they called Khabár, which means great. And so down to the time of Heraclius they were very great idolaters. From that time to the present a false prophet named Mohammed has appeared in their midst. This man, after having chanced upon the Old and New Testaments and likewise, it seems, having conversed with an Arian monk, devised his own heresy. Then, having insinuated himself into the good graces of the people by a show of seeming piety, he gave out that a certain book had been sent down to him from heaven. He had set down some ridiculous compositions in this book of his and he gave it to them as an object of veneration.""
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2938379&forum_id=2#28354894) |
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Date: July 17th, 2015 8:54 PM Author: copper pit lettuce
LOL bro, that was an indirect hint about one aspect of your schtick that's off, but you weren't even sharp enough to get it. You're clueless, Vishnu/Shlomo.
Maybe Wikipedia is rudimentary enough for you:
"Broadly speaking, Catholic and Orthodox Christians distinguish between initial justification, which in their view occurs at baptism, and permanent justification, accomplished after a lifetime of striving to do God's will."
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2938379&forum_id=2#28354842) |
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