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Date: July 20th, 2015 10:24 PM Author: onyx domesticated forum
My Posting Career is a Something Awful spinoff forum for racist ex-goons who consider themselves too intellectual for Stormfront or VNN. Popular discussion topics include making fun of liberals, boasting about their weightlifting routines, and whining about how niggers, Jews and faggots are ruining everything.
In other words, it’s a typical white nationalist Internet circlejerk. Because MPC considers itself the sophisticated alternative to run-of-the-mill Hitler fetishism, though, the gap between their self-perception and reality is a reliable source of lulz.
https://encyclopediadramatica.se/My_Posting_Career
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Date: May 18th, 2016 3:03 AM Author: drunken internet-worthy parlor
this whole comment, I think, is worthy of reposting here:
Something that has been underway really for the last ten years - and has picked up in earnest since social media in the form of twitter and Facebook truly consolidated and became dominant - is that pop culture/mainstream culture picked up by osmosis some things from twenty and thirty years ago and the like that, in their ''heyday'' if we can even call it that, were artifacts of actual subcultures. I think Jim Goad has written some about this. To explain what I am talking about:
The ''Dark Enlightenment'' and assorted other hokey bullshit (''PUA Game'', ''mens rights'', ''race realism'') is what happens when people who until the advent of social media - and/or alternatively meme factory sites/forums that appeal to nerds like 4Chan - were basically exclusively plugged into television and mainstream print media and news and entertainment sources as their conduits for information and/or recreation. At some point, these demographics - lower middle class guys who work at ShitTech in Muncie Indiana, goofy bored college kids who waste their dads' money fucking off online during class, random proles who never really spent time online until high speed internet became cheap and basically universally available, etc. - came across stuff like A. Wyatt Mann cartoons, ANSWER ME magazine rape issue scans, Boyd Rice screeds he'd read aloud with comical earnestness on Wally George, obscure 1970s futurist stuff on eugenics, and they decided it was some kind of cool and ironic brand new thing they could incorporate into their online role-playing persona. Because to these people, the internet is one part television you can talk to, one part World of Warcraft type game where during the workday you pretend to be a character and suggest and claim all kinds of (in their minds) outlandish things.
I saw this happen in real time. In 1997 you'd get on the internet because you were part of a subculture that mainstream/System loyal type people didn't like. Maybe you were a bodybuilder who used anabolic steroids and your only source of info on drugs and drug interactions was morons at your local gym. Maybe you were a WN who was a Klanner or patched member of Metzger's W.A.R. and you wanted to try (in vain) to take your nascent gang or ''movement'' national by connecting with other WNs across the country. Maybe you were into weird sex stuff and were keen to womanizing beyond the age when its semi-normal. Maybe you were devoutly religious and had a hard time finding people who'd be interested in discussing esoteric theologies with you. This was the ''shell'' or skeleton if you will of internet boards pre-social media and pre-internet usage boom - and its dusty bones remained and were discovered by the new type of internet user (i.e. John and Jane Q. Public).
So what happened when the new users discovered old bones? They decided to incorporate it into their roleplay. Thus, forums like ''My Posting Career'' and ''AutoAdmit'' emerged - forums where guys pretend to be bodybuilders who do tons of cocaine who hate niggers and follow Russian Orthodoxy and pine for the re-emergence of '"Fascism''. Or blogs like the one maintained by ''Roissy'' where frustrated individuals pretend to be these compulsive womanizers who are banging rich girls in the ass as part of some corny revenge fantasy couched in the language of issues of 1970s Penthouse Letters.
Of course, when people who actually are Fascists or National Socialists or historical revisionists, or people who are staunch religious zealots, or oddball drug users, sex deviants, or people who truly, sincerely due to their beliefs, class, station in life, circumstance what have you show up in these social media environs or blogs, the regulars recoil in horror because - as already stated - to them its just a role playing game.
Engage one of these guys who runs a '"Dark Enlightenment'' blog in correspondence about the Holocaust myth, about racialism, about Islam and theology, about the naturally ordained differences between the sexes or any of their purported hobby horses and you'll notice that he acts about as at ease as a Mormon missionary would if you took him to a brothel. Its never supposed to become ''real'' you see - its a way to blow off steam at whatever ShitJob these guys hold as a cathartic release after being dressed down and embarressed by the schoolmarm HR lady or the EEOC rep who just lectured the workplace staff on Sexual Harrassment.
Of course, MSM types come across this kind of thing and feign contempt, pity, and outrage but that's part of the whole social dynamic of life under ZOG - people pretend to believe ''outrageous'' things, moralists pretend to be outraged. The former play the part of naughty boys who sneak porno mags in their Trapper Keeper, the latter play the part of the disciplinarian dean. Its all very contrived and lame.
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Date: May 18th, 2016 3:10 AM Author: Crusty fiercely-loyal ladyboy
Sure, there may be something to that -- but more importantly who is this author who is familiar with both Autoadmit and "My Posting Career"?
Anyone intimately familiar with "My Posting Career" should be immediately dismissed.
Again, this goes to the effect of the "meta hall of mirrors" -- one of the smarter posters on "MPC" was self-conscious and reflexive enough to turn on himself: "No!" go fuck yourself instead.
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Date: May 18th, 2016 3:40 AM Author: Magenta center useless brakes
seems even more autistic than xo.
also olderfags so likely their iqs have calcified. sad!
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Date: May 18th, 2016 3:59 AM Author: Concupiscible Indirect Expression Community Account
Reading the screeds from these people is pretty sad. As a matter of armchair psychology (which is their pastime), I would guess the main source of frustration in their lives is a status lower than they think they deserve. Contrast this to the people they hate in the media, who have an audience of thousands for their shitlib propaganda.
Another thing is that even though some of them are pretty good writers, Brian Uecker/Pleasureman's screeds about anything fancy are usually pretty shallow. His big "idea" is that the source of all our problems is that we live in communities of too large a SCALE, which even if true means very little. What sort of person thinks our world can devolve into independent fiefdoms of 300 people. What the fuck is the point of this nonsense?
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Date: May 18th, 2016 6:50 AM Author: Balding electric furnace factory reset button
MPC poster here. No offense, but most of this is wrong, which I'm only bringing up because it looks like you wrongly believe that you know a lot about MPC.
"SCALE" is supposed to capture two ideas: collapse due to crowding alone despite resource sufficiency, like in Calhoun's famous "rat paradise" experiment, and the necessity of increasing complexity for growth, like in Tainter's "Collapse of Complex Societies."
Calhoun's experiment showed that rat society broke down when rats were socially overwhelmed and young rats couldn't find roles for themselves; Calhoun coined the term "behavioral sink" to capture their neurotic, compulsive and dysfunctional behavior. Tainter argues that social scale and social complexity (the package of advances technologies, institutions and infrastructure enabling growth) have a tragic relationship in which everything that we call "development" requires leveraging complexity, eventually to such an extent that any decrease in complexity means social collapse.
SCALE also has stuff to say about, for instance, sex relations (more interesting stuff than xo, honestly—xo kind of gets stuck at the stage of observing that hypergamy and shrews exist, but gets reasonable pushback on both those points from fempoasters and usually can't answer them very well.) Xo laments that 16-year-old virgins aren't lining up to be their future wives, but modern urban life stresses women in particular, subjecting them to the need to escalate sexually to attempt to secure a partner (e.g., Sam Hyde chokefucking the box) and creating high "trade in" risk (that xo, as a site full of alpha studs, applauds.) That doesn't make the eat-pray-love shrew any easier to take, but xo performative misogyny aside, there are lots of nice women out there whose incentives force them into quasi-shrew behavior that they may not particularly enjoy.
Even if there's no easy answer to the problem of SCALE, we should probably be aware of it. Recognizing it doesn't mean that you have to (or want to) return to village life -- it could mean, for instance, aiming for managed, sustainable population decline. Still, it's pretty strange for xo of all places to shit on SCALE, considering our memes include Uncle Ted, global capitalism and future wife.
Anyway, not to pick a fight with you in particular, but your post is representative of how xo sees MPC, and that's too bad. MPC gets the occasional bitter butthurt poorfag or LARPing Nazi, but they usually get banned in short order.
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Date: May 18th, 2016 7:06 PM Author: Balding electric furnace factory reset button
The right is intellectually inert. Shitlibs aren't completely wrong to say that conservatives are not very bright. Even conservatives with decent IQs usually shrink from theory as a means of engaging with the world. This is probably an issue with the conservative temperament and psychological profile more than anything else. In concrete terms, Mormons are great at producing doctors and businessmen, but the world is still waiting for their sociologists and novelists.
Xo doesn't have many shitlibs but it doesn't have many intellectually stultified shitcons either. Its conservative wing is a grab bag of beetle-browed fucklaw racists, Clinton Democrats disgusted by SJW, obsessive libertarian retards like CGM and george20, and guys who just like to say "nigger" a lot. That kind of stuff is great for about 5 minutes when you're shaking off shitlibbery for the first time, but there's no future in it and it gets old fast. On the other hand, no one here is temperamentally suited for union with a conformist Mormon hivemind. There's a certain directionlessness here that comes out of the inability to be either a shitlib or a normal shitcon and the apparent lack of other options.
MPC differs from most of the rest of the alt-right by attempting to engage constructively with sociology and to criticize global capitalism from the non-populist right. I don't think it's very similar to broscience, which is mostly notable for magical thinking and snake oil.
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