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Mayer Brown didn't make any "mistakes" in the JP Morgan UCC Release

People don't seem to get that. I do this type of work and i...
light community account mexican
  08/01/15
i agree that the level of fuck up on STB's part is much grea...
amethyst parlor
  08/01/15
Of course they made a mistake, but they have no fault or lia...
arousing dun azn cuckoldry
  08/01/15
If they did that on purpose that would be highly unethical. ...
fragrant shrine macaca
  08/01/15
Explain
crusty site
  08/01/15
why would a lender ever let a fucking borrower prepare a rel...
talented boiling water temple
  08/01/15
that also. And if the lender did, they should review every ...
light community account mexican
  08/01/15
Sponsor counsel draft releases all the time.
pale 180 sex offender
  08/01/15
Not at my bank it doesnt.
Umber crotch
  08/01/15
Again we are talking about real banks here.
pale 180 sex offender
  08/01/15
lmao
slate corner milk
  07/07/17
isn't borrower now in breach by virtue of having terminated ...
Vivacious friendly grandma
  08/01/15
sure. but as you note, it doesn't matter.
light community account mexican
  08/01/15
right but the point is borrower's counsel caused that breach...
Vivacious friendly grandma
  08/01/15
I'm an attorney at a bank. There is a lien release group at ...
Umber crotch
  08/01/15
We are talking about real banks here. Not 500K loans to a su...
pale 180 sex offender
  08/01/15
These must be smaller loans. On $50mm+ loans outside counse...
light community account mexican
  08/01/15
...
jet-lagged twinkling lettuce address
  07/07/17
Are you the MB associate or something?
Crystalline Bateful Mad-dog Skullcap Church
  07/07/17


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Date: August 1st, 2015 12:06 PM
Author: light community account mexican

People don't seem to get that. I do this type of work and it would be laughable to say that the Borrower's counsel could in any way be at fault for the Lender mistakenly releasing a security interest.

ONLY STB made a mistake. If I were the people at Mayer Brown, I would sleep like a baby at night.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2951199&forum_id=2#28456102)



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Date: August 1st, 2015 12:10 PM
Author: amethyst parlor

i agree that the level of fuck up on STB's part is much greater than Mayer Brown's. the guy at Mayer Brown was a little incautious, a little rushed. STB failed to review docs drafted by the borrower that released security interests, which is a pretty fucking basic part of their job.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2951199&forum_id=2#28456113)



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Date: August 1st, 2015 12:10 PM
Author: arousing dun azn cuckoldry

Of course they made a mistake, but they have no fault or liability. For them and their client, It was a 180 mistake. Life works out like that sometimes.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2951199&forum_id=2#28456112)



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Date: August 1st, 2015 12:11 PM
Author: fragrant shrine macaca

If they did that on purpose that would be highly unethical.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2951199&forum_id=2#28456117)



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Date: August 1st, 2015 12:30 PM
Author: crusty site

Explain

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2951199&forum_id=2#28456201)



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Date: August 1st, 2015 12:11 PM
Author: talented boiling water temple

why would a lender ever let a fucking borrower prepare a release of lien?

Also who filed the release of lien, I assume MB.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2951199&forum_id=2#28456118)



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Date: August 1st, 2015 12:24 PM
Author: light community account mexican

that also. And if the lender did, they should review every last reference like they were the ones who prepared it.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2951199&forum_id=2#28456176)



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Date: August 1st, 2015 12:39 PM
Author: pale 180 sex offender

Sponsor counsel draft releases all the time.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2951199&forum_id=2#28456238)



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Date: August 1st, 2015 12:40 PM
Author: Umber crotch

Not at my bank it doesnt.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2951199&forum_id=2#28456243)



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Date: August 1st, 2015 12:41 PM
Author: pale 180 sex offender

Again we are talking about real banks here.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2951199&forum_id=2#28456250)



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Date: July 7th, 2017 6:15 PM
Author: slate corner milk

lmao

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2951199&forum_id=2#33724865)



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Date: August 1st, 2015 12:27 PM
Author: Vivacious friendly grandma

isn't borrower now in breach by virtue of having terminated lender's security interest/priority? Not that lawsuit for damages will do much while there's a stay

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2951199&forum_id=2#28456187)



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Date: August 1st, 2015 12:28 PM
Author: light community account mexican

sure. but as you note, it doesn't matter.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2951199&forum_id=2#28456190)



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Date: August 1st, 2015 12:35 PM
Author: Vivacious friendly grandma

right but the point is borrower's counsel caused that breach. if not for the subsequent bankruptcy proceeding, i would think that would put MB in hot water

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2951199&forum_id=2#28456216)



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Date: August 1st, 2015 12:35 PM
Author: Umber crotch

I'm an attorney at a bank. There is a lien release group at our bank that does every lien release at my bank. They do nothing else. They are not attorneys. Outside counsel has to request lien releases from them and there is a quality control step in that after the lien release group prepares a lien release the in-house attorney on the matter has to review it and pass it in a separate system before emailing the "okay" to outside counsel that they can file it. For the life of me I do not understand how a MEGA bank could let this happen. Its an internal process failure at the bank. There's something wrong with their outside counsel procedures manual. Lien releases are the kind of thing you have to turn into a machine like process. It cant just be left to overworked junior associates. There has to be a process.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2951199&forum_id=2#28456218)



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Date: August 1st, 2015 12:41 PM
Author: pale 180 sex offender

We are talking about real banks here. Not 500K loans to a subway franchise. putside counsel prepares everything.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2951199&forum_id=2#28456245)



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Date: August 1st, 2015 12:43 PM
Author: light community account mexican

These must be smaller loans. On $50mm+ loans outside counsel almost always does all of this.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2951199&forum_id=2#28456260)



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Date: July 7th, 2017 6:09 PM
Author: jet-lagged twinkling lettuce address



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Date: July 7th, 2017 6:12 PM
Author: Crystalline Bateful Mad-dog Skullcap Church

Are you the MB associate or something?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2951199&forum_id=2#33724845)