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Mayer Brown didn't make any "mistakes" in the JP Morgan UCC Release

People don't seem to get that. I do this type of work and i...
Outnumbered roast beef business firm
  08/01/15
i agree that the level of fuck up on STB's part is much grea...
self-centered pungent ceo range
  08/01/15
Of course they made a mistake, but they have no fault or lia...
Puce ratface
  08/01/15
If they did that on purpose that would be highly unethical. ...
hateful hospital trust fund
  08/01/15
Explain
Bearded snowy dragon
  08/01/15
why would a lender ever let a fucking borrower prepare a rel...
brass concupiscible stead halford
  08/01/15
that also. And if the lender did, they should review every ...
Outnumbered roast beef business firm
  08/01/15
Sponsor counsel draft releases all the time.
thriller idea he suggested
  08/01/15
Not at my bank it doesnt.
titillating kink-friendly home queen of the night
  08/01/15
Again we are talking about real banks here.
thriller idea he suggested
  08/01/15
lmao
talented abode
  07/07/17
isn't borrower now in breach by virtue of having terminated ...
Buff pea-brained brunch incel
  08/01/15
sure. but as you note, it doesn't matter.
Outnumbered roast beef business firm
  08/01/15
right but the point is borrower's counsel caused that breach...
Buff pea-brained brunch incel
  08/01/15
I'm an attorney at a bank. There is a lien release group at ...
titillating kink-friendly home queen of the night
  08/01/15
We are talking about real banks here. Not 500K loans to a su...
thriller idea he suggested
  08/01/15
These must be smaller loans. On $50mm+ loans outside counse...
Outnumbered roast beef business firm
  08/01/15
...
jade lodge
  07/07/17
Are you the MB associate or something?
flushed circlehead theater stage
  07/07/17


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Date: August 1st, 2015 12:06 PM
Author: Outnumbered roast beef business firm

People don't seem to get that. I do this type of work and it would be laughable to say that the Borrower's counsel could in any way be at fault for the Lender mistakenly releasing a security interest.

ONLY STB made a mistake. If I were the people at Mayer Brown, I would sleep like a baby at night.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2951199&forum_id=2#28456102)



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Date: August 1st, 2015 12:10 PM
Author: self-centered pungent ceo range

i agree that the level of fuck up on STB's part is much greater than Mayer Brown's. the guy at Mayer Brown was a little incautious, a little rushed. STB failed to review docs drafted by the borrower that released security interests, which is a pretty fucking basic part of their job.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2951199&forum_id=2#28456113)



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Date: August 1st, 2015 12:10 PM
Author: Puce ratface

Of course they made a mistake, but they have no fault or liability. For them and their client, It was a 180 mistake. Life works out like that sometimes.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2951199&forum_id=2#28456112)



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Date: August 1st, 2015 12:11 PM
Author: hateful hospital trust fund

If they did that on purpose that would be highly unethical.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2951199&forum_id=2#28456117)



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Date: August 1st, 2015 12:30 PM
Author: Bearded snowy dragon

Explain

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2951199&forum_id=2#28456201)



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Date: August 1st, 2015 12:11 PM
Author: brass concupiscible stead halford

why would a lender ever let a fucking borrower prepare a release of lien?

Also who filed the release of lien, I assume MB.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2951199&forum_id=2#28456118)



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Date: August 1st, 2015 12:24 PM
Author: Outnumbered roast beef business firm

that also. And if the lender did, they should review every last reference like they were the ones who prepared it.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2951199&forum_id=2#28456176)



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Date: August 1st, 2015 12:39 PM
Author: thriller idea he suggested

Sponsor counsel draft releases all the time.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2951199&forum_id=2#28456238)



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Date: August 1st, 2015 12:40 PM
Author: titillating kink-friendly home queen of the night

Not at my bank it doesnt.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2951199&forum_id=2#28456243)



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Date: August 1st, 2015 12:41 PM
Author: thriller idea he suggested

Again we are talking about real banks here.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2951199&forum_id=2#28456250)



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Date: July 7th, 2017 6:15 PM
Author: talented abode

lmao

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2951199&forum_id=2#33724865)



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Date: August 1st, 2015 12:27 PM
Author: Buff pea-brained brunch incel

isn't borrower now in breach by virtue of having terminated lender's security interest/priority? Not that lawsuit for damages will do much while there's a stay

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2951199&forum_id=2#28456187)



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Date: August 1st, 2015 12:28 PM
Author: Outnumbered roast beef business firm

sure. but as you note, it doesn't matter.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2951199&forum_id=2#28456190)



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Date: August 1st, 2015 12:35 PM
Author: Buff pea-brained brunch incel

right but the point is borrower's counsel caused that breach. if not for the subsequent bankruptcy proceeding, i would think that would put MB in hot water

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2951199&forum_id=2#28456216)



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Date: August 1st, 2015 12:35 PM
Author: titillating kink-friendly home queen of the night

I'm an attorney at a bank. There is a lien release group at our bank that does every lien release at my bank. They do nothing else. They are not attorneys. Outside counsel has to request lien releases from them and there is a quality control step in that after the lien release group prepares a lien release the in-house attorney on the matter has to review it and pass it in a separate system before emailing the "okay" to outside counsel that they can file it. For the life of me I do not understand how a MEGA bank could let this happen. Its an internal process failure at the bank. There's something wrong with their outside counsel procedures manual. Lien releases are the kind of thing you have to turn into a machine like process. It cant just be left to overworked junior associates. There has to be a process.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2951199&forum_id=2#28456218)



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Date: August 1st, 2015 12:41 PM
Author: thriller idea he suggested

We are talking about real banks here. Not 500K loans to a subway franchise. putside counsel prepares everything.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2951199&forum_id=2#28456245)



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Date: August 1st, 2015 12:43 PM
Author: Outnumbered roast beef business firm

These must be smaller loans. On $50mm+ loans outside counsel almost always does all of this.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2951199&forum_id=2#28456260)



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Date: July 7th, 2017 6:09 PM
Author: jade lodge



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2951199&forum_id=2#33724832)



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Date: July 7th, 2017 6:12 PM
Author: flushed circlehead theater stage

Are you the MB associate or something?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2951199&forum_id=2#33724845)