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Mayer Brown didn't make any "mistakes" in the JP Morgan UCC Release

People don't seem to get that. I do this type of work and i...
alcoholic toilet seat half-breed
  08/01/15
i agree that the level of fuck up on STB's part is much grea...
Ruddy Den
  08/01/15
Of course they made a mistake, but they have no fault or lia...
chestnut nursing home
  08/01/15
If they did that on purpose that would be highly unethical. ...
honey-headed indian lodge mother
  08/01/15
Explain
chocolate ticket booth turdskin
  08/01/15
why would a lender ever let a fucking borrower prepare a rel...
charismatic crusty step-uncle's house
  08/01/15
that also. And if the lender did, they should review every ...
alcoholic toilet seat half-breed
  08/01/15
Sponsor counsel draft releases all the time.
poppy rebellious range
  08/01/15
Not at my bank it doesnt.
Misunderstood spectacular sanctuary
  08/01/15
Again we are talking about real banks here.
poppy rebellious range
  08/01/15
lmao
Vivacious bawdyhouse
  07/07/17
isn't borrower now in breach by virtue of having terminated ...
lascivious cordovan fanboi space
  08/01/15
sure. but as you note, it doesn't matter.
alcoholic toilet seat half-breed
  08/01/15
right but the point is borrower's counsel caused that breach...
lascivious cordovan fanboi space
  08/01/15
I'm an attorney at a bank. There is a lien release group at ...
Misunderstood spectacular sanctuary
  08/01/15
We are talking about real banks here. Not 500K loans to a su...
poppy rebellious range
  08/01/15
These must be smaller loans. On $50mm+ loans outside counse...
alcoholic toilet seat half-breed
  08/01/15
...
180 plum site nowag
  07/07/17
Are you the MB associate or something?
electric principal's office
  07/07/17


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Date: August 1st, 2015 12:06 PM
Author: alcoholic toilet seat half-breed

People don't seem to get that. I do this type of work and it would be laughable to say that the Borrower's counsel could in any way be at fault for the Lender mistakenly releasing a security interest.

ONLY STB made a mistake. If I were the people at Mayer Brown, I would sleep like a baby at night.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2951199&forum_id=2#28456102)



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Date: August 1st, 2015 12:10 PM
Author: Ruddy Den

i agree that the level of fuck up on STB's part is much greater than Mayer Brown's. the guy at Mayer Brown was a little incautious, a little rushed. STB failed to review docs drafted by the borrower that released security interests, which is a pretty fucking basic part of their job.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2951199&forum_id=2#28456113)



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Date: August 1st, 2015 12:10 PM
Author: chestnut nursing home

Of course they made a mistake, but they have no fault or liability. For them and their client, It was a 180 mistake. Life works out like that sometimes.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2951199&forum_id=2#28456112)



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Date: August 1st, 2015 12:11 PM
Author: honey-headed indian lodge mother

If they did that on purpose that would be highly unethical.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2951199&forum_id=2#28456117)



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Date: August 1st, 2015 12:30 PM
Author: chocolate ticket booth turdskin

Explain

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2951199&forum_id=2#28456201)



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Date: August 1st, 2015 12:11 PM
Author: charismatic crusty step-uncle's house

why would a lender ever let a fucking borrower prepare a release of lien?

Also who filed the release of lien, I assume MB.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2951199&forum_id=2#28456118)



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Date: August 1st, 2015 12:24 PM
Author: alcoholic toilet seat half-breed

that also. And if the lender did, they should review every last reference like they were the ones who prepared it.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2951199&forum_id=2#28456176)



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Date: August 1st, 2015 12:39 PM
Author: poppy rebellious range

Sponsor counsel draft releases all the time.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2951199&forum_id=2#28456238)



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Date: August 1st, 2015 12:40 PM
Author: Misunderstood spectacular sanctuary

Not at my bank it doesnt.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2951199&forum_id=2#28456243)



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Date: August 1st, 2015 12:41 PM
Author: poppy rebellious range

Again we are talking about real banks here.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2951199&forum_id=2#28456250)



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Date: July 7th, 2017 6:15 PM
Author: Vivacious bawdyhouse

lmao

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2951199&forum_id=2#33724865)



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Date: August 1st, 2015 12:27 PM
Author: lascivious cordovan fanboi space

isn't borrower now in breach by virtue of having terminated lender's security interest/priority? Not that lawsuit for damages will do much while there's a stay

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2951199&forum_id=2#28456187)



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Date: August 1st, 2015 12:28 PM
Author: alcoholic toilet seat half-breed

sure. but as you note, it doesn't matter.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2951199&forum_id=2#28456190)



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Date: August 1st, 2015 12:35 PM
Author: lascivious cordovan fanboi space

right but the point is borrower's counsel caused that breach. if not for the subsequent bankruptcy proceeding, i would think that would put MB in hot water

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2951199&forum_id=2#28456216)



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Date: August 1st, 2015 12:35 PM
Author: Misunderstood spectacular sanctuary

I'm an attorney at a bank. There is a lien release group at our bank that does every lien release at my bank. They do nothing else. They are not attorneys. Outside counsel has to request lien releases from them and there is a quality control step in that after the lien release group prepares a lien release the in-house attorney on the matter has to review it and pass it in a separate system before emailing the "okay" to outside counsel that they can file it. For the life of me I do not understand how a MEGA bank could let this happen. Its an internal process failure at the bank. There's something wrong with their outside counsel procedures manual. Lien releases are the kind of thing you have to turn into a machine like process. It cant just be left to overworked junior associates. There has to be a process.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2951199&forum_id=2#28456218)



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Date: August 1st, 2015 12:41 PM
Author: poppy rebellious range

We are talking about real banks here. Not 500K loans to a subway franchise. putside counsel prepares everything.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2951199&forum_id=2#28456245)



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Date: August 1st, 2015 12:43 PM
Author: alcoholic toilet seat half-breed

These must be smaller loans. On $50mm+ loans outside counsel almost always does all of this.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2951199&forum_id=2#28456260)



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Date: July 7th, 2017 6:09 PM
Author: 180 plum site nowag



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2951199&forum_id=2#33724832)



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Date: July 7th, 2017 6:12 PM
Author: electric principal's office

Are you the MB associate or something?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2951199&forum_id=2#33724845)