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Date: August 18th, 2015 12:13 AM Author: Henna High-end Kitchen Hominid What does XO think? Couldn't get a straight answer over at TLS (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2966225&forum_id=2#28573264) |
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Date: August 18th, 2015 12:16 AM Author: Bossy bat-shit-crazy address preventive strike WLRK (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2966225&forum_id=2#28573276) |
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Date: August 18th, 2015 12:19 AM Author: Henna High-end Kitchen Hominid You really think so? Feel like I would make about the same or less hourly while risking quicker burnout. I also don't want to end up at some middling V5 and think about what could have been... (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2966225&forum_id=2#28573291) |
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Date: August 18th, 2015 12:21 AM Author: Bossy bat-shit-crazy address preventive strike 1. Yes 2. Lol at middling V5 I am going to tell my friends at S&C they are a middling V5. |
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Date: August 18th, 2015 12:24 AM Author: Henna High-end Kitchen Hominid I didn't go to law school to end up at some middling V5 brother (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2966225&forum_id=2#28573318) |
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Date: September 1st, 2015 3:37 AM Author: big-titted institution juggernaut I'm going to lol when you get hit by a bus looking at your phone. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2966225&forum_id=2#28666355) |
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Date: August 18th, 2015 12:19 AM Author: Puce lodge obv CR (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2966225&forum_id=2#28573294) |
Date: August 18th, 2015 12:17 AM Author: metal sex offender Schulte or Cadwalader Wachtell DLA, Bracewell, Skadden Weil (Big Gap) Kirkland, Latham, King & Spalding, HoganLovells (Big Gap) Paul Weiss (HUGE GAP) Rest of V100 in order
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Date: August 18th, 2015 12:20 AM Author: Henna High-end Kitchen Hominid Fuck my ass brother. I didn't even interview at Schulte or Cadwalader (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2966225&forum_id=2#28573297) |
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Date: August 18th, 2015 12:20 AM Author: Bossy bat-shit-crazy address preventive strike LOL (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2966225&forum_id=2#28573298) |
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Date: August 18th, 2015 12:36 AM Author: insanely creepy indirect expression stage RAN HERE.
lol Cadwalader |
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Date: August 18th, 2015 2:07 AM Author: Titillating Parlor Kitty Cat list is missing STROOCK (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2966225&forum_id=2#28573992) |
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Date: August 18th, 2015 3:46 AM Author: Iridescent dysfunction Utterly preposterous DLA Piper trolling is utterly preposterous (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2966225&forum_id=2#28574326) |
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Date: August 18th, 2015 10:27 AM Author: metal sex offender Get this faggot 4chan meme out of here (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2966225&forum_id=2#28575102) |
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Date: August 21st, 2015 2:45 AM Author: 180 cyan hall (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2966225&forum_id=2#28595406) |
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Date: August 18th, 2015 10:19 AM Author: beady-eyed pit rigor Enjoy (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2966225&forum_id=2#28575081) |
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Date: August 18th, 2015 12:21 AM Author: wine trailer park azn It's Wachtell for a number of reasons. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2966225&forum_id=2#28573303) |
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Date: August 18th, 2015 12:36 AM Author: multi-colored haunted graveyard roast beef Easily DPW from my personal experience (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2966225&forum_id=2#28573416) |
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Date: August 18th, 2015 12:38 AM Author: Henna High-end Kitchen Hominid What's your take on DPW? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2966225&forum_id=2#28573435) |
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Date: August 18th, 2015 3:20 AM Author: multi-colored haunted graveyard roast beef UBER prestige, chill and very good exit options. WLRK will let you make more money through bonus but for far worse hours. So easily DPW and anybody who disagrees with me is a fool
* disclaimer *
I never went to law school or even gave LSAT
studied STEM
Lived in CA/Midwest most of my life
Been to NYC only for extended weekends
Only time I interacted with lawyers was when I was on jury duty |
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Date: August 18th, 2015 7:14 AM Author: Green dingle berry (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2966225&forum_id=2#28574577) |
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Date: August 18th, 2015 7:42 AM Author: judgmental pisswyrm cr except for "chill." no top biglaw firm is "chill." (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2966225&forum_id=2#28574609) |
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Date: August 18th, 2015 1:35 AM Author: Gaped milk Cleary, Skadden, Davis Polk (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2966225&forum_id=2#28573849) |
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Date: August 18th, 2015 3:16 AM Author: Pea-brained son of senegal famous landscape painting Wachtell - if you don't mind giving up your entire life
Otherwise - Davis Polk, Cleary, Debevoise, Simpson, Paul Weiss |
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Date: August 18th, 2015 3:24 AM Author: Henna High-end Kitchen Hominid How do I pick between the otherwise? And what about Cravath? SullCrom? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2966225&forum_id=2#28574261) |
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Date: August 18th, 2015 3:25 AM Author: multi-colored haunted graveyard roast beef bro i gave you the best answer man ITT
http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2966225&forum_id=2#28574252 |
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Date: August 18th, 2015 3:28 AM Author: Henna High-end Kitchen Hominid Does it really matter that UBER is a client? Thought other places were considered more prestigious? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2966225&forum_id=2#28574275) |
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Date: August 18th, 2015 3:35 AM Author: multi-colored haunted graveyard roast beef yfwgi
i meant uber as in super prestigious bro not that uber is a fckng client as i have no idea who user uses |
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Date: August 18th, 2015 3:40 AM Author: Henna High-end Kitchen Hominid Haha I was just messing with you bro.
I am considering DPW but why them over CSM, Cleary, K&E, SullCrom, STB, Skadden, or WLRK? Interested in corporate if that helps. |
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Date: August 18th, 2015 7:32 AM Author: Floppy coral mood Is K&E NY really prestigious? I thought it was second tier for NY (top tier for Chicago) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2966225&forum_id=2#28574603) |
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Date: August 18th, 2015 7:41 AM Author: Razzle-dazzle slate associate no one outside of other aspie lawyers worries about firm prestige, or even knows the difference. Beyond that, biglaw cogs will always be 4th tier jokes compared to high earning professionals and entrepreneurs, so the prestige is essentially worthless anywhere outside of xoxo. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2966225&forum_id=2#28574608) |
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Date: August 18th, 2015 7:46 AM Author: Adventurous violent abode death wish Lol. This is pretty far from the truth man. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2966225&forum_id=2#28574612) |
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Date: August 18th, 2015 7:51 AM Author: Razzle-dazzle slate associate It's 100% the truth man, I live in MFH, you honestly think people you meet who aren't lawyers give a fuck if you work at S&C or know how that ranks prestige wise vs. other vault firms? Live IRL, JFC. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2966225&forum_id=2#28574617) |
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Date: September 1st, 2015 1:20 AM Author: Adventurous violent abode death wish You don't know what you're talking about. Living in MFH gives you no insight into the legal employment world. Nor does living off papi's money.
"no one outside of other aspie lawyers worries about firm prestige, or even knows the difference."
Who most often does hiring out of firms? Lawyers. So it matters.
Beyond that, biglaw cogs will always be 4th tier jokes compared to high earning professionals and entrepreneurs,
So? There's still gradations.
so the prestige is essentially worthless anywhere outside of xoxo.
Wrong. It's useful for hiring after biglaw.
You're clueless. |
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Date: August 18th, 2015 3:40 AM Author: Titillating Parlor Kitty Cat Cravath and SullCrom are miserable shitholes without the marginal prestige/compensation benefit provided by Wachtell. If you can cop one of those, you're prob better just taking DPW or Cleary instead. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2966225&forum_id=2#28574310) |
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Date: August 18th, 2015 6:44 AM Author: Henna High-end Kitchen Hominid (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2966225&forum_id=2#28574565) |
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Date: August 18th, 2015 7:40 AM Author: Razzle-dazzle slate associate Why would any of you want to work at WLRK. You're still not going to make partner and you'll get pushed out in 3-5 years max, but instead of being miserable like you are now about the hours and the work, you'll be doing 2x as much work. I think if you have BIGLAW and you realize that $ doesn't make up for lack of time to sleep and socialize, you wouldn't want to sacrifice the little time you have now for a little bit more $ and MAYBE better exit options (P.S. you will likely end up with the same exit options...if you don't killself from the hours). (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2966225&forum_id=2#28574606) |
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Date: August 18th, 2015 10:07 AM Author: shaky office I only have two friends at WLRK but they really don't work much more than the rest of the NYC big lawyer crowd and they make almost 2x the money. I don't think anyone turns that place down nor should they. Everyone I have known that turned down a more prestigious firm through OCI for "lifestyle" reasons usually got fucked and works just as much as the rest of us for shittier pay or prospects. Real talk here. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2966225&forum_id=2#28575050) |
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Date: August 18th, 2015 10:20 AM Author: Crystalline nowag This is correct. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2966225&forum_id=2#28575082) |
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Date: August 18th, 2015 10:31 AM Author: metal sex offender cr (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2966225&forum_id=2#28575112) |
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Date: August 18th, 2015 10:48 AM Author: Pea-brained son of senegal famous landscape painting Lolno (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2966225&forum_id=2#28575208) |
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Date: August 18th, 2015 7:51 AM Author: Adventurous violent abode death wish If you want corporate just make sure you end up at like S&C, Cravath, DPW and similar firms. Will make a big difference in your exit options. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2966225&forum_id=2#28574615) |
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Date: August 18th, 2015 8:00 AM Author: Wonderful newt windowlicker lol doobs (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2966225&forum_id=2#28574629) |
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Date: August 21st, 2015 2:34 AM Author: Henna High-end Kitchen Hominid What about leverage? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2966225&forum_id=2#28595334) |
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Date: August 21st, 2015 9:07 AM Author: Dashing school background story Complicated and depends on how many senior associates there are. From the perspective of day-to-day work enviornment and skill development, for various reasons, I would not want to be interfacing solely or primarily with senior associates, especially after the first year. But I also wouldn't want to be in a super low leverage group where there are few associates, especially as a junior or midlevel. I think it's good to interface with partners a lot, but also have a fair number or associates you can consult with and who can cover for you when you want to take off. But if you want to make partner, the calculus is obviously different. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2966225&forum_id=2#28595841) |
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Date: September 1st, 2015 12:51 AM Author: Henna High-end Kitchen Hominid Do you make more at WLRK or K&E? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2966225&forum_id=2#28665738) |
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Date: September 2nd, 2015 10:12 AM Author: stirring flickering chapel I've heard that at WLRK your bonus is usually equal to your base. I'd have to imagine that is the most you can make anywhere as an associate. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2966225&forum_id=2#28673438) |
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Date: September 1st, 2015 3:15 AM Author: thriller forum Are you actually a rising 2L? If so, ask this question again next year if you actually have offers from anywhere.
Otherwise, if you have Wachtell, take it, for reasons mentioned above.
I think CSM is better than the other firms mentioned and would take over them. Then maybe skadden. Then all the rest. This is assuming corp. don't know for lit.
Regardless of corp/lit, All of them are going to be shitty. You will work a lot. Partners will scream. Associates will be tools. Weekends, holidays, birthdays will be ruined. So if you are trying to distinguish between sullcrom, cleary, dp, etc - consider factors other than vault ranking. What are offices like/location? What is training/rotation/assignment system like? What about vacations (I have heard that DP has a good assignment system and actually respects vacations but maybe others can weigh in)? Which has people that you click with? If you get an offer and they allow second looks/lunches, definitely do it, but with the caveat that the people you are interviewing with will probably no longer be at the firm by the time you start as an associate. |
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Date: September 1st, 2015 7:20 AM Author: Racy indian lodge depressive But hours are more dependant on the group/dept your in, no? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2966225&forum_id=2#28666483) |
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Date: September 1st, 2015 10:57 PM Author: Henna High-end Kitchen Hominid Will Kirkland SHATTER the market in 2 years? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2966225&forum_id=2#28671326) |
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Date: September 1st, 2015 11:40 PM Author: Bearded mind-boggling deer antler Jew, Thief, & Scheister, LLC (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2966225&forum_id=2#28671711) |
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Date: September 2nd, 2015 10:14 AM Author: dead hyperactive station The Law Offices of Bloodacre and Associates, LLC (A NY Metro Area Full Service Law Firm) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2966225&forum_id=2#28673449) |
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Date: September 2nd, 2015 10:45 AM Author: stirring flickering chapel does binder & binder have a MFH office? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2966225&forum_id=2#28673608) |