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Makes sense to go to T14 w/ $$$?

Given today's job market, should a sane person go to T7-T14 ...
Pearly milk
  08/19/15
Yeah even if they give half that. Still doesn't make it not ...
Razzle indian lodge
  08/19/15
Half would be good enough? That's still in the upwards of $1...
Pearly milk
  08/19/15
MBA loans are min 100K too. I think 100k in 2015 = $0 actual...
Razzle indian lodge
  08/19/15
yeah, but a lot of MBAs have like 25k signing bonuses
Concupiscible Arrogant Feces
  01/10/16
P $60,000 V $90,000 B $90,000 M $105,000 D $90,000 N $9...
Vigorous candlestick maker
  08/19/15
How'd you come up w/ these hard figures? Very interesting. I...
Pearly milk
  08/19/15
Definitely not based on job rates edit: actually, lower t...
crusty azure stage
  08/19/15
How would you rank T7-14s in terms of placement? I looked in...
Pearly milk
  08/19/15
I edited, I actually somewhat agree with your ranking (excep...
crusty azure stage
  08/19/15
they're my rankings, dummy. and I added $15,000 to compen...
Vigorous candlestick maker
  08/19/15
Shouldn't a similar adjustment be made for having to be in H...
crusty azure stage
  08/19/15
...
Pearl organic girlfriend
  08/20/15
mmm Im gunnin for you C
Concupiscible Arrogant Feces
  11/22/15
yes, employment rates and reputation you could lower C to...
Vigorous candlestick maker
  08/19/15
Probably increase B to 105. M just reduced class size by lik...
Saffron talented hissy fit station
  08/19/15
B benefits from being a part of a T5 university, and I'm und...
Vigorous candlestick maker
  08/19/15
i went to ccn on full scholarship and lived at home during s...
Bespoke alpha den
  08/19/15
CCN will keep giving full scholarships to people like you, i...
Vigorous candlestick maker
  08/19/15
i dont follow?
Bespoke alpha den
  08/19/15
TCR
Vigorous candlestick maker
  08/19/15
can you just rate it please.
Bespoke alpha den
  08/19/15
i strangely have more respect for that career than YLS->W...
Laughsome Chapel Turdskin
  08/19/15
...
swashbuckling ladyboy puppy
  08/20/15
what are you doing now? lol
Concupiscible Arrogant Feces
  10/05/15
cq
free-loading half-breed
  11/22/15
...
Concupiscible Arrogant Feces
  01/10/16
He poasts.
Vigorous candlestick maker
  01/10/16
guy who went to ls without wanting to be a lawyer i rate yo...
Adventurous sticky piazza trust fund
  01/10/16
Also, is this a psyops thread to drive peterman to suicide?
Vigorous candlestick maker
  08/19/15
yes.
Concupiscible Arrogant Feces
  10/05/15
...
Vigorous candlestick maker
  11/22/15
you need to evaluate if you want to be a lawyer a big par...
frum ebony center
  08/19/15
titcr. going to law school today means you HAVE TO DO BIGLAW...
Bespoke alpha den
  08/19/15
rofl at "sitting very still" bc it's so true al...
frum ebony center
  08/19/15
Mmmm. I'd like to hold your vibrating colleagues against my ...
Doobsian Duck-like Telephone Heaven
  10/06/15
you gotta judge what you think the market will be three year...
Laughsome Chapel Turdskin
  08/19/15
yes. everyone is getting good jobs now
spruce dingle berry
  08/20/15
Class of 2018 Medians
Vigorous candlestick maker
  08/20/15
How about vs a top 15 MBA?
Concupiscible Arrogant Feces
  12/03/15
...
Vigorous candlestick maker
  01/10/16
gonna apply to school next cycle. not sure whether to apply ...
Concupiscible Arrogant Feces
  01/10/16
Depends on your other options and whether you have a plan th...
charismatic lettuce
  01/10/16
CR, but the kicker is you will never truly know the answer t...
Concupiscible Arrogant Feces
  01/10/16
Some can coast for a few years, but I wouldn't assume that'l...
charismatic lettuce
  01/10/16
true
Concupiscible Arrogant Feces
  01/10/16


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Date: August 19th, 2015 10:39 PM
Author: Pearly milk

Given today's job market, should a sane person go to T7-T14 w/ $$$ ($100,000-120,000) in scholarship?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2967881&forum_id=2#28586443)



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Date: August 19th, 2015 10:40 PM
Author: Razzle indian lodge

Yeah even if they give half that. Still doesn't make it not one of the most depressing most loathed professions in the history of mankind

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2967881&forum_id=2#28586463)



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Date: August 19th, 2015 10:47 PM
Author: Pearly milk

Half would be good enough? That's still in the upwards of $100,000 in loans, which just affirms that law schools are way expensive these days.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2967881&forum_id=2#28586530)



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Date: August 19th, 2015 10:50 PM
Author: Razzle indian lodge

MBA loans are min 100K too. I think 100k in 2015 = $0 actually. Its kind of the pathetic sad standard.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2967881&forum_id=2#28586553)



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Date: January 10th, 2016 4:03 PM
Author: Concupiscible Arrogant Feces

yeah, but a lot of MBAs have like 25k signing bonuses

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2967881&forum_id=2#29565464)



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Date: August 19th, 2015 10:44 PM
Author: Vigorous candlestick maker

P $60,000

V $90,000

B $90,000

M $105,000

D $90,000

N $90,000

C $105,000

G $120,000

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2967881&forum_id=2#28586497)



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Date: August 19th, 2015 10:47 PM
Author: Pearly milk

How'd you come up w/ these hard figures? Very interesting. I'm assuming these are based on job rates and whatnot?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2967881&forum_id=2#28586520)



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Date: August 19th, 2015 10:49 PM
Author: crusty azure stage

Definitely not based on job rates

edit: actually, lower the cornell amount and it roughly tracks employment

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2967881&forum_id=2#28586541)



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Date: August 19th, 2015 10:51 PM
Author: Pearly milk

How would you rank T7-14s in terms of placement? I looked into the numbers already, of course, but I heard you can't just trust these numbers schools put out.

Also, how much $$$ would make attending one of these even remotely worth it?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2967881&forum_id=2#28586559)



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Date: August 19th, 2015 10:51 PM
Author: crusty azure stage

I edited, I actually somewhat agree with your ranking (except Cornell is underrated by you if biglaw is the goal)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2967881&forum_id=2#28586566)



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Date: August 19th, 2015 10:54 PM
Author: Vigorous candlestick maker

they're my rankings, dummy.

and I added $15,000 to compensate for having to spend three years in Ithaca.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2967881&forum_id=2#28586594)



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Date: August 19th, 2015 10:57 PM
Author: crusty azure stage

Shouldn't a similar adjustment be made for having to be in Happy Valley

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2967881&forum_id=2#28586634)



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Date: August 20th, 2015 5:02 PM
Author: Pearl organic girlfriend



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2967881&forum_id=2#28591896)



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Date: November 22nd, 2015 6:16 PM
Author: Concupiscible Arrogant Feces

mmm Im gunnin for you C

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2967881&forum_id=2#29231870)



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Date: August 19th, 2015 10:57 PM
Author: Vigorous candlestick maker

yes, employment rates and reputation

you could lower C to $90,000 and G to $105,000 if you'd like: those are more realistic and attainable figures ($120,000 is the most one can get from G).

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2967881&forum_id=2#28586633)



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Date: August 19th, 2015 11:03 PM
Author: Saffron talented hissy fit station

Probably increase B to 105. M just reduced class size by like another 40 to 275 (used to be 360) so its probably better than B, which just increased class size.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2967881&forum_id=2#28586704)



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Date: August 19th, 2015 11:06 PM
Author: Vigorous candlestick maker

B benefits from being a part of a T5 university, and I'm under the impression that it competes only with S within its legal market, right?

Whereas M has no market.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2967881&forum_id=2#28586732)



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Date: August 19th, 2015 10:58 PM
Author: Bespoke alpha den

i went to ccn on full scholarship and lived at home during school and didn't really care about ls and graduated with no jerb and no debt. passed the bar and couldn't find anything worth doing and did on and off legal work for a tiny bit of money and retired from the legal profession. found the whole experience from start to finish tedious and useless, but that may just be me. rate my legal career.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2967881&forum_id=2#28586641)



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Date: August 19th, 2015 10:58 PM
Author: Vigorous candlestick maker

CCN will keep giving full scholarships to people like you, is how I rate your experience.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2967881&forum_id=2#28586647)



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Date: August 19th, 2015 10:59 PM
Author: Bespoke alpha den

i dont follow?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2967881&forum_id=2#28586654)



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Date: August 19th, 2015 10:59 PM
Author: Vigorous candlestick maker

TCR

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2967881&forum_id=2#28586656)



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Date: August 19th, 2015 11:00 PM
Author: Bespoke alpha den

can you just rate it please.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2967881&forum_id=2#28586663)



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Date: August 19th, 2015 11:14 PM
Author: Laughsome Chapel Turdskin

i strangely have more respect for that career than YLS->WLRK

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2967881&forum_id=2#28586818)



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Date: August 20th, 2015 5:13 PM
Author: swashbuckling ladyboy puppy



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2967881&forum_id=2#28591974)



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Date: October 5th, 2015 11:38 PM
Author: Concupiscible Arrogant Feces

what are you doing now? lol

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2967881&forum_id=2#28908197)



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Date: November 22nd, 2015 6:17 PM
Author: free-loading half-breed

cq

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2967881&forum_id=2#29231876)



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Date: January 10th, 2016 4:03 PM
Author: Concupiscible Arrogant Feces



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2967881&forum_id=2#29565475)



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Date: January 10th, 2016 4:06 PM
Author: Vigorous candlestick maker

He poasts.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2967881&forum_id=2#29565519)



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Date: January 10th, 2016 4:25 PM
Author: Adventurous sticky piazza trust fund

guy who went to ls without wanting to be a lawyer

i rate you a major fucking loser. not loser in the sense of personality, but loser in the sense of losing 3 years of your life for nothing.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2967881&forum_id=2#29565688)



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Date: August 19th, 2015 11:00 PM
Author: Vigorous candlestick maker

Also, is this a psyops thread to drive peterman to suicide?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2967881&forum_id=2#28586664)



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Date: October 5th, 2015 8:36 PM
Author: Concupiscible Arrogant Feces

yes.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2967881&forum_id=2#28906564)



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Date: November 22nd, 2015 2:03 AM
Author: Vigorous candlestick maker



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2967881&forum_id=2#29228875)



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Date: August 19th, 2015 11:09 PM
Author: frum ebony center

you need to evaluate if you want to be a lawyer

a big part of that is whether you have the personality of a lawyer

if u read this tweetblog the answer is probably "no" and no scholarship should change your mind

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2967881&forum_id=2#28586767)



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Date: August 19th, 2015 11:11 PM
Author: Bespoke alpha den

titcr. going to law school today means you HAVE TO DO BIGLAW. doing biglaw means sitting in a cube, all day, every day looking at a computer screen (and no, not internet porn, sports, netflix, poasting etc, which is what you are used to). you will be sitting very still doing microsoft office. if this is not for you, DO NOT GO TO LAW SCHOOl.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2967881&forum_id=2#28586785)



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Date: August 19th, 2015 11:21 PM
Author: frum ebony center

rofl at "sitting very still" bc it's so true

although i have seen biglaw colleagues vibrating with stress before

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2967881&forum_id=2#28586901)



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Date: October 6th, 2015 7:24 AM
Author: Doobsian Duck-like Telephone Heaven

Mmmm. I'd like to hold your vibrating colleagues against my groin.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2967881&forum_id=2#28909345)



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Date: August 19th, 2015 11:16 PM
Author: Laughsome Chapel Turdskin

you gotta judge what you think the market will be three years from now.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2967881&forum_id=2#28586829)



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Date: August 20th, 2015 5:15 PM
Author: spruce dingle berry

yes. everyone is getting good jobs now

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2967881&forum_id=2#28591981)



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Date: August 20th, 2015 5:18 PM
Author: Vigorous candlestick maker
Subject: Class of 2018 Medians

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1HzZg0576L88JSrc2RFGoHJEPCOtAoUsVUFuw7MckRd0/edit?pli=1#gid=10

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2967881&forum_id=2#28592000)



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Date: December 3rd, 2015 12:49 PM
Author: Concupiscible Arrogant Feces

How about vs a top 15 MBA?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2967881&forum_id=2#29299459)



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Date: January 10th, 2016 1:33 AM
Author: Vigorous candlestick maker



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2967881&forum_id=2#29562110)



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Date: January 10th, 2016 3:58 PM
Author: Concupiscible Arrogant Feces

gonna apply to school next cycle. not sure whether to apply to LS or Biz school

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2967881&forum_id=2#29565424)



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Date: January 10th, 2016 4:03 PM
Author: charismatic lettuce

Depends on your other options and whether you have a plan that results in justifying the cost of attendance (including the time). In other words, if you're just going to be the guy that quits biglaw in 6 months because "omg, they work me 60+ hours a week and treat me like shit" then you probably should find something else to do with your life.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2967881&forum_id=2#29565462)



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Date: January 10th, 2016 4:09 PM
Author: Concupiscible Arrogant Feces

CR, but the kicker is you will never truly know the answer to that question without experiencing it for yourself. For instance, many poasters talk about how easy it is to coast for a few years.

there was a poster who wrote out a very succinct response to this very question, but can't find it. the argument was that law school is not a great option, and you're agreeing to spend your 20/early 30's stressed out, in debt etc. but if you put in your time, this path gives you lots "bites of the apple" later on. for many of us, this will be as close as we get to the forbidden fruit

the real questions is if LS is credited considering other options, including MBA programs

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2967881&forum_id=2#29565549)



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Date: January 10th, 2016 4:12 PM
Author: charismatic lettuce

Some can coast for a few years, but I wouldn't assume that'll be you. That assumes you end up in the right place at the right time and end up working for the right sorts of people. There are also different definitions of "coasting." What one person considers coasting is another person's hell on earth.



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2967881&forum_id=2#29565569)



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Date: January 10th, 2016 5:58 PM
Author: Concupiscible Arrogant Feces

true

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2967881&forum_id=2#29566382)