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What are sound reasons to become a lawyer?
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Date: August 28th, 2015 2:47 PM Author: Misunderstood Abode Ratface Most AutoAdmit poasters ridicule 0Ls and even law students for their impetus to pursue the legal profession.
Things like "I like to argue" or " I want the prestige, money, and recognition" get laughed at here.
So what are sound reasons? |
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Date: August 28th, 2015 2:48 PM Author: apoplectic mad-dog skullcap if you have the personality to be a litigator, that's a good reason. you have to love to win, to beat your opponent. you thrive on confrontation, and you exalt in victory. you have to crave that. chilmata has it. Drunkard has it.
edit: although if you need to borrow $300K to do it, i don't think there's anyone or any school where that's a good idea. |
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Date: August 28th, 2015 3:00 PM Author: Misunderstood Abode Ratface I have this. Is this what hiring biglaw partners want to hear? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2975271&forum_id=2#28644002) |
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Date: August 28th, 2015 3:02 PM Author: apoplectic mad-dog skullcap no, what they want to hear is a non-aspie personality, and that's about 5% of it. 95% of what they care about is your school name and GPA.
unless you mean a shitlaw litigation hiring partner. you might be able to convince them with a speech that talks about this. |
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Date: August 28th, 2015 3:08 PM Author: apoplectic mad-dog skullcap i see you're already in law school. sure, talk about this aspect of your personality, if you are aiming to be a litigator. obviously get the highest grades you can, but after that, practice interviewing, that's my best advice. you gotta be comfortable.
also, hope you're enjoying civ pro because that's a lot of what litigation is about. |
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Date: August 28th, 2015 3:10 PM Author: Misunderstood Abode Ratface contracts is my favorite; civ pro is second.
Do you think I should run for a federal clerkship? |
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Date: August 28th, 2015 3:11 PM Author: apoplectic mad-dog skullcap yes, if you can get it, you should definitely try for a clerkship, again assuming you want to be a litigator. you'll learn more there than you will in 3 years of law school. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2975271&forum_id=2#28644095) |
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Date: August 28th, 2015 3:17 PM Author: Misunderstood Abode Ratface One thing though, I'm a good student and I would actually enjoy biglaw work, but I'm extremely aspie IRL. I am really shy and don't talk much. But when it comes to public speaking, I can do that. I just don't want my colleagues to think I'm unfriendly or I possess feelings of superiority. Will that hurt me getting breakfast? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2975271&forum_id=2#28644129) |
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Date: August 28th, 2015 5:42 PM Author: apoplectic mad-dog skullcap don't worry about breakfast. you should focus on getting a clerkship. to that end, you need to be trying to get to know professors who know judges. talk to your clerkship coordinator if your school has one too and get familiar with the process. do that and try to get on law review or some other journal.
practice interviewing. if you have good school + good grades, you just need to not be unlikeable in your interviews. you don't have to be some charismatic bro. you can get there with practice.
worry about how you come across in the workplace after you get a job. |
Date: August 28th, 2015 2:47 PM Author: awkward bateful associate theatre Daddy is a partner (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2975271&forum_id=2#28643924) |
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Date: August 28th, 2015 2:48 PM Author: crystalline french chef goyim Being a solo is a solid 170 (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2975271&forum_id=2#28643931) |
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Date: August 28th, 2015 5:30 PM Author: Unholy Overrated Coffee Pot Cr. I hated law til I went solo. Nor my life is 170 on my way to 180. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2975271&forum_id=2#28644924) |
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Date: August 29th, 2015 8:18 PM Author: Federal sapphire rigpig bbw How do you guys feel about being partner at a small firm with 2 or 3 other partner where you handle all your own stuff? Not as cr as solo cause you still gotta be in the office to avoid pissing off other partners who feel like they have to be in office? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2975271&forum_id=2#28651379) |
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Date: August 28th, 2015 2:48 PM Author: black razzle deer antler macaca "I hate my life and wish to die in the most painful and humiliating way possible." (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2975271&forum_id=2#28643932) |
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Date: August 28th, 2015 5:43 PM Author: slippery site (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2975271&forum_id=2#28645000) |
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Date: August 28th, 2015 2:49 PM Author: Nubile feces an urgent need for scholarly sweets and treats (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2975271&forum_id=2#28643935) |
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Date: August 28th, 2015 2:49 PM Author: impressive charismatic place of business mexican you get to wear a suite and tie, everyday! (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2975271&forum_id=2#28643944) |
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Date: August 28th, 2015 2:53 PM Author: judgmental sooty cruise ship -family is in the business (e.g. dad has a solo practice you could inherit)
-actual, proven desire to do lefty progressive stuff (obama, civil rights, etc.), free ride, not worried about money
-you've already fucked up but did OK on the LSAT. E.g., a white bro at BU with a history degree may have no good options. He does well on the LSAT and now he can go to Penn law? That might make sense. At least he'll make a decent living. |
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Date: August 28th, 2015 2:59 PM Author: kink-friendly parlour Ran here to poast 1 and 3. I think that 1 is only credited for the cited example, though. Your dad being a partner at a firm doesn't mean shit -- this only applies if he's a solo. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2975271&forum_id=2#28644000) |
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Date: August 28th, 2015 5:29 PM Author: judgmental sooty cruise ship agree. biglaw partners kids generally don't go to law school. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2975271&forum_id=2#28644916) |
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Date: August 28th, 2015 3:10 PM Author: swollen crackhouse you have no interests, passions, goals, and don't understand how student loans work (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2975271&forum_id=2#28644079) |
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Date: August 28th, 2015 3:16 PM Author: Green Lascivious Step-uncle's House Gay Wizard You hate yourself and love wallowing in misery. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2975271&forum_id=2#28644123) |
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Date: August 28th, 2015 3:19 PM Author: Boyish dingle berry really good at arguing. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2975271&forum_id=2#28644143) |
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Date: August 28th, 2015 5:28 PM Author: Brilliant tripping location chad (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2975271&forum_id=2#28644912) |
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Date: August 28th, 2015 5:28 PM Author: Zippy Principal's Office you want to pop bottles and fuck models. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2975271&forum_id=2#28644914) |
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Date: August 28th, 2015 5:40 PM Author: Pea-brained dashing telephone death wish you want to be like Harvey Specter on Suits (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2975271&forum_id=2#28644993) |
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Date: August 29th, 2015 8:44 PM Author: Brilliant tripping location chad (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2975271&forum_id=2#28651528) |
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Date: August 29th, 2015 8:47 PM Author: Lilac incel tanning salon you are choosing between law and accounting. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2975271&forum_id=2#28651551) |
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Date: August 29th, 2015 9:12 PM Author: sick startling locale alpha Sound reason = having a current wage of ~$30K per year, and having no other good ideas for what to do with your life, and you killed your college GPA and got >170 LSAT. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2975271&forum_id=2#28651677) |
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Date: August 30th, 2015 2:47 AM Author: Supple fuchsia lay boistinker I think you could still cop a full ride at a T25 with a 167-169 ish LSAT. Full ride T25 worth, imho. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2975271&forum_id=2#28653178) |
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Date: August 29th, 2015 9:18 PM Author: Aphrodisiac Infuriating Senate 1. You have a solid career plan that is realistic considering where you get into law school, your student loans, etc. that justifies law school.
2. You get into a good law school at a reasonable cost (T3: pay the full amount , T6: need at least some scholarship, T14: need reasonable scholarship, T20: full ride or don't go)
3. You basically have no better options.
Yeah, a cold, calculating cost-benefit analysis is the only real reason to go. "Love of the law" is BS, as is "prestige". Pre-laws don't know what legal practice is about and there's no real prestige anymore. It is just a job with a decent upper middle class pay if and only if you end up at the top of it. The people that get legit rich are few and far between. |